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  1. This idea might be a bit thin, but where did the investiture come from to open the perpendicularity which Autonomy's army was planning to use? Could it have come from the Bands?
  2. One possibility that came to mind was that the Set used the investiture in the Bands of Mourning to fuel the perpendicularity that was to let the red/gold army in. Though I have no clue how they would have accomplished this.
  3. Thanks! I'll have to give this a good think, I'll admit it's a very good point against my pet theory.
  4. It's also possible that Melishi is simply another name for Ishar that has since been forgotten by history. The Sibling and the Radiants of the time were aware of Melishi's identity as the herald Ishar, and the Sibling is not purposely obfuscating that fact, but rather it is unaware of the name currently being used to refer to said herald and is simply using the name that was common at the time. Could you please quote the passage where Stormfather refers to Melishi by name? I have been unable to find it. Thank you in advance.
  5. I'm definitely leaning this way too. Honor was unstable but still alive at the time of the Recreance. He had to be alive in order to create the vision of the Recreance to show to potential bondsmiths. Instead of reassuring the Radiants of their righteousness he ranted that they would destroy the world, thus adding to the tensions instead of diffusing them.
  6. Possible but highly unlikely in my opinion. Brandon only very recently decided to canonize the shard Mercy. If it played such an important part in the history of the SA I think we would have had hints long before RoW.
  7. When Dalinar ascends in Oathbringer, Odium himself says: "We killed you!" Almost certainly in reference to Honor, given the context. Not airtight I guess, but pretty close. I don't buy this, simply because breaking oaths or pacts goes against Honor's intent. Besides, if he had broken a deal, it is likely Odium would be completely free from whatever bound him to the Rosharan system. I find it more likely that the terms of Odium's imprisonment included a clause that made Honor vulnerable to Odium in some way, perhaps unbeknownst to Honor himself. My question is when Odium says "We killed you!" Who besides himself is the "we" referring to?
  8. How do we know Kalak didn't know? He hasn't referred to Melishi or Ishar in the context of the imprisonment of BAM. I think the presence of other heralds at the imprisonment strengthens this theory, not the other way around. They might have been there to support Ishar/Melishi. I've been a proponent of the Ishar=Melishi theory for a while and I have thought that the binding of BAM somehow caused the madness of the heralds but never could figure out how. This makes a lot of sense to me. In Oathbringer we find out that in order to trap a spren you have to offer it something it wants in order to attract it. Perhaps BAM wanted a bond, and Melishi/Ishar gave it one. The Stormfather is not omniscient, it is conceivable he was not aware they were the same person, especially if we consider the Stormfather's evolution into full awareness (prompted by Honor prior to and in response to his imminent demise) might not have been complete yet.
  9. I'm going to go in a different direction here. I think Kaladin will become the new vessel for Honor. The obvious choice for vessel if you think the Honor shard will return is Dalinar, but I think there are enough subtle hints in the books so far to point to Kaladin being the one (child of Tanavast and whatnot.) It would be and interesting twist. As to whether or not he pleads the fifth (ba-dum-chiii,) I think he will, kind of like a Goku going super-saiyan moment. Here's how I see it going down: Dalinar loses the contest, becoming Odium's champion, and Kaladin has to fight him. Kaladin gets whooped by fused Dalinar until he says the fifth ideal, powers up, and manages to defeat him, mortally wounding him with anti-light. We get a very sad scene with Dalinar dieing, thanking Kaladin for releasing him from Odium's control, and Kaladin gets control of Dalanar's splinter of Honor. Kaladin is already bound to the second most powerful splinter of Honor (Syl,) and with the combined splinters there is enough power for Honor to be restored with Kaladin as the vessel.
  10. Valid points for sure. My main reason for thinking Melishi = Ishar other than their character similarities (ambition, megalomania, innovative use of bondsmith powers) is the withdrawal of the Sibling's bond with Melishi, as discussed during Adolin's trial in RoW. The timing is ambiguous so I can't be sure but it seems to me that the Sibling withdrew their bond with Melishi BEFORE the imprisonment of BAM, as evidenced by the abandonment of Urithiru by the Radiants prior to the Recreance. However in the Urithiru gemstone archive we are basically told that the imprisonment of BAM required bondsmith powers. Where could Melishi have gotten bondsmith powers without his bond to the Sibling? Perhaps a quick jaunt to Shinovar to pick up a certain blade... As to how nobody knew that they were the same person, who is to say they didn't? Melishi could just be one of Ishar's many names and the record of his true identity perhaps just didn't survive the millenia. I know its not airtight and it poses potential problems but it's my pet theory dang it and I'm sticking to it!
  11. I know that there are people who don't like this idea, but I'm almost willing to put money on the theory that the last bondsmith of the old Radiants was actually Ishar. There are too many connections between Melishi and Ishar to be coincidence. Regardless, I agree with you that Ishar is important, maybe the most important non-diety in Rosharan history.
  12. The word "cent" in english is used to denote the smallest unit of currency in the centesimal currency system that most societies use across the world. Not all call that unit a "cent" but many do besides the U.S. It is not inconceivable that some societies that Hoid has visited, perhaps even his native one, use the same centesimal currency system and thus their word for the smallest unit in that system would translate in english to "cent."
  13. So surgebinding might be Honor's magic, with a touch of Cultivation mixed in? The surges of the fused might be a corruption or repurposing of Honor's magic by Odium. Odium's distinct magic is voidbinding, and Cultivation has her own distinct magic system. Lifebinding perhaps?
  14. I'm waiting for the heating fabrial-powered steam engine. Probably won't happen though, they would instead use fabrials to power their machines directly like they already do with pumps and lifts, etc.
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