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As other have said, I would continue stormlight. IMO the cosmere doesn’t really present itself until you get a handful of books under your belt. I still miss cosmere references and worldhopping all the time when I’m reading (especially first time through). Brandon is remarkably adept at writing great stories on their own…one might even say that he is incapable of writing a bad story. Earlier books feel like they have little crumbs of cosmere stuff sprinkled in but by the time you get to secret history of Mistborn and the end of ROW the cosmere is exerting massive influence.

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I like this post a lot. Don’t know if we can talk Venli in this forum so I didn’t bring her up or Raboniel. I also just got caught up with mistborn so I’ve been out of stormlight. I ripped through RoW, it’s kinda a blur. I’ve been writing songs for bridge 4 in the way of kings era. Everything is melting together in my head. Might be time to start my first stormlight re read.

I was not expecting such a long response like @Inquisitor #5 gave, thanks for the time and thought. I’m not a multi quoter but there are a few things I feel the need to respond to. I was not arguing that Dalinar was an anarchist, merely that his post blackthorn thought process was empathetic to anarchism especially in terms of how quick he accept characters for who they are, breaking customs, redefining roles. I am also not arguing for or against anarchism, just that the cosmere seems ripe for an anarchism. in terms of Wayne having the right attitude…the way he trades for things based on his own sense of value and his neglect at recognizing any authority. Wayne’s brain seems somewhat free of outside coercion via his unique set of values or maybe circumstance. in terms of justification, “do anarchists need to justify the stars?”…not if they just twinkle from far away. Demanding justification is just an academic way of saying reaction, probably just me wanting to sound smart. Kelsier’s reaction at the start Secret History is a demand for justification. A demand for justification is also not exclusive to anarchism neither are Dalinar’s thoughts. I think one of Brandon’s strengths as a writer is bringing in voices and perspective, outside of his being, in a meaningful and rational way. I would never expect to see some anarchist manifesto within cosmere. I do think he has created enough strife and chaos in the cosmere for there to be a rational response that is anarchist, especially in the more developed planets. there is a lot of irony in Bakunin.

Hope everyone is doing well. 5th entry in The Bridge 4 Tapes: Kaladin (parts 1, 2 and 3) Trapped in a rolling cage I'm stranded here There's no use crying Sick gait, a scratchy face Beyond the bars; a death song calling "Come to Odium" Trapped in a rolling cage Rolling deep inside the plains Trapped in a rolling cage Not much left to call me sane Everytime I save a life I'm gonna change my mind And everytime I change my mind I'm gonna change my life You'd think with all this Stormlighting up my darkness It would help me see right through Shash Don't be shocked, we know it so well You've been sent to gates of hell Don't be shocked and join with us You've been sent to the land of dust Don't be shock, we know it so well What comes next only time will tell Danger comes from the sky We hold the bridge to the side Laugh now if you want, it won't matter If one falls now we all die A plan scratched deep in the dirt A reveal of what we are worth Slip through in the night, no warning Unless they get to you first Hung out in a Storm Surrounded by the wind and rain You can still feel alone Felt the light disintegrating As the face began to fade Stretched so thin and barely breathing This darkness won't go away I'm alone Bridge 4 stands at your back Our hearts sing true to this fact One step at a time, you taught us And the bridge will never collapse They left you under attack But Bridge 4 stands at your back One step at a time, you taught us And the bridge will never collapse One more step forward Bridge 4

I feel the cosmere is ripe for an old school anarchism movement. Not the violence/chaos that is now associated with the word anarchism but the philosophy of freely associated individuals. “No metal, no shards” or “no raidiants, no fused”. Off the top of my head here are some examples of anarchism creeping through in the cosmere (please correct me when I get something wrong). Hoid. A lot of hoid is anarchist. He seems very free of power influence and the fact that he doesn’t have a shard (by choice I believe) is very anarchist. Kelsier has a strong Bakunin vibe at the start. Bakunin went around the world (real world) and whipped the poor people into a mob directed against their current leader. Bakunin was kicked out of almost every country he went to, back when they would walk you to the border and leave you. He would then go and find the poor people of the new country he was in and do it again. However Kelsier’s ego quickly takes him from a Bakunin type to a Marx type (ultimate leader of all). Anarchists would love then hate Kelsier in the same way they love Bakunin but not Marx. Kelsier is a great mash up of both and in the real world Bakunin and Marx hated each other. Bakunin actually publicly dressed Marx down for being an ass and egomaniac. Wayne has the right attitude but lacks the mental drive while Jasnah has the mental drive but the wrong attitude. I have very high hopes for Relain and Renarin. Autonomy is not quite right. Sazed would and could be very anarchist except that he holds a lot of power and anarchism seeks to redistribute power and destroy things or institutions that accumulate power…at the very least an anarchist would demand a justification for the existence of shards. Dalinar is similar to Sazed, in that he is a leader and has accumulated way too much power. However a lot of Dalinar’s thoughts and actions post “blackthorn” seem to be very empathetic to anarchism. In particular, the way he questions everything he does. Are there any anti shards? Everyone in the cosmere is getting swept up and carried towards something and most don’t know what it is (I don’t know what it is) but where are the characters who are saying “no”? The power accumulation in shards/vessels is immense and IMO there should naturally be an anarchism push back that is not aligned with a shard but rather the individuals within that region…like the undertow after a wave.

Congrats! The wheel is no joke imo. I got nothing to add to your thoughts except...nynaeve is the only character ive read (off the top of my head) that went from down right frustrating to down right amazing. I had so much love and respect for her by the end. I didnt know what to do for a few days after finishing. Wandering around the house, glazed eyes.

Hell to the nah

Just finished the secret history and there is a question in my mind. Preservation seems obliged to give a final comfort for the departing souls but there is a short window of time when old preservation vessel dies the power bounces from kel to vin to sazed. A lot of death happens in that window of time. Did all these souls have to depart to the beyond without a final comfort? No big implications on the cosmere, just something that I can’t get out of my head. Also, damn Kel’s part in the cosmere is kinda frightening.

Oh I still love the books its just that you can only read something so many times. Clive started as a horror author and when I was young I loved horror but Clive was different than other horror authors for me. There is a point in the middle of his career where he began shifting into fantasy but maintained a very vivid style from his horror days. Imajica is one of the finest books I've read. It is a huge puzzle box of a story that unfolds in a wonderful and inspiring way. It also combines his love of all things sexual and dark. Clive also wrote tons of gay characters at a time and in a genre where there was very few. As I grew older I moved away from things sexual and dark, but I'll still fight for Imajica. Robert Anton Wilson on the other hand is a guy I will go to bat for til I die. His musing on absurdness, society, science, secret societies and alternate ways of thinking is right up my alley. The Illuminatus Trilogy is the craziest book I've read. It jumps around in time and place for no reason and often mid sentence. The first quarter of that book melted my brain until I had no choice but to just go along with what was on the page. I would put it up with some of the great texts from thinkers like Max Stirner, its just wrapped up in 1970s pulp instead of 1800s philosophical struggle. Its like the Ararchist manifesto hidden within hundreds of pages of conspiracy pulp. The book itself was intended to bring every conspiracy theory at the time (1970s) into an entire story. Its dated, its corny and its also amazing. Its a book that could be entirely rewritten for the current times we are in.

Destiny 2 and Dragons Dogma

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Loved reading Clive Barker and Robert Anton Wilson in my youth.

4th entry in the Bridge 4 tapes: Teft. What can I say The moss pulled me down All the way to the Bridge Where Death pirouettes If you live What can I say The moss took away All my patience to hear The things that you think I should fear What can you do Your heart is subdued Then hung out in the storm And left for the father to choose What's left to do Highstorm blew right through All the weight of the Bridge Came down on the heart Of the crew Kal, see this through I think I know whats happened To you What's left to say The moss pulled me down All the way to your side So Death’s gonna wait For a while Racked round my brain This sounds insane You healed with Stormlight I think you’re Radiant Usually wrong But rarely confused 3 spheres from me 3 spheres to you

3rd entry in the Bridge 4 Tapes: Lunamor (Rock) Surrounded by these fools With no other place to go Its either ‘make the food’ Or break my toes Prepared for the slaughter I’m leading them to water Without me by their side They’d probably die The air down here is dangerous So have a seat and eat with us A piece of meat, a piece bread Its my charge that we’re all well fed No one suffers tonight So get it off your chest Our life’s a laugh at best And choke down some food from Lunamor They say Bridge 4 is death But the dead don’t need a chef Its more like You're not quite all dead just yet The air down here is dangerous So have a seat and eat with us A piece of meat, a piece bread Its my charge that we’re all well fed No one suffers tonight He’s lying There's no way he carries that weight He’s lying There's no way, its gotta be fake Stormblessed some call him And I’ll never doubt him again I helped him save a life In me he made a friend Respect thats earned lasts until the end Tattooed as a slave But just below the brow A storm is screaming begging to get out The air down here is dangerous So have a seat and eat with us A piece of meat, a piece bread Its my charge that we’re all well fed No one suffers tonight

2nd entry in the Bridge 4 Tapes: Moash Tip of the hat to the Shardcast for the idea of Moash casting many shadows in Kal's eyes. It was mentioned in the Moash episode and I couldn't get it out of my head. In the light of his eyes I cast many shadows My shadow’s innocence Is twisting with the wind Saving my revenge From dying on the Bridge Shadows never sleep Like words that convince Each day in and out Waking up with him Hey, what could I do? Kholin took my best Bridge 4 is taking the rest My shadow’s Innocence Is twisting with the wind Dying on the Bridge Is another win for them A game I’ll never lose Convinced he has to play Guarding from the front Holding all our weight Can you feel the surge between you and me? Two sides of the same thing

A tape within a tape. We are trying to do a small string of songs about Bridge 4 (their own tape within the Ghostblood bag). Bridge 4 as we first meet them. The early Bridge 4 era. This in an intro song. Forward Bridge 4 One more step No hope left Who falls next? Left for dead Bridge 4 is no place to grieve Nothing left to give, we keep on dying Down here you’ll find the place Where your will to live slipped away On the plains we march again And feel nothing Just eyes without a clue And Bridge 4 will take those too

9th entry in the Ghostblood Tapes: Pattern we’re sorry, we’re sorry we’re so delicious all we've done behind your back was acting in your interest Don’t worry, don’t worry our bond is endless maybe we can find a way or maybe you should blame wit You know me, you know me I’ve always been here always right behind your back I’m watching, I’m so sincere So sorry, so sorry i’m so delicious maybe we can win the day or maybe we should blame wit Right behind your back, I'm watching you Maybe I could help today If you just show me the way Why are you looking away? Frown Hmmmm, maybe we could blame wit

@Halleck many thanks. You warm the hearts of the Ghostblood Tapes. The Ghostblood Tapes would also like to thank @Kingsdaughter613 for providing not only 2/3 of the work but also the the inspiration behind this track in the bag of Ghostblood Tapes; An Offer You Can't Refuse Art and lyrics by @Kingsdaughter613 How clever do you think you are? Enter Mraize, his features marred Little Knife, who dared betray Kalak the herald, refused to slay The time has come; the bill is due Little Knife, I’m hunting you How clever do you think you are? Enter Lyatil, masked and dark I’ve wandered the Cosmere for many a day More false than you, I’ve come to slay Watch for the mists and shadows true The dart in my pipe is waiting for you How clever do you think you are? Enter Lord Mistborn from afar I spy with my tineye A child, a fool, not ready to fly Little Knife building her own pyre; Let’s see if you’ll survive this fire How clever do you think you are? Survivor, Sovereign, Lord of Scars Enter our Master Thaidakar Tell me Knife, do you play cards? I think I’d like to test your skill Here’s the deck; take what you will You know the rules; now we play Looks like I take the pot today You think you’ll win this war you choose? I’ll make you an offer you can’t refuse

7th entry in The Ghostblood Tapes: The Diagram

The emotional notes of Stormlight burn bright after reading a new book. These notes have been burning in our minds. 6th entry of The Ghostblood Tapes: Maydolin Oh Maya what can you see? Just move along with me I've got everything I need So feel free Oh Maya what do you know? I'll follow where you go I've got everything I need Side to side, don't look away Say the words you need to say I stand by you I'm starting to think you don't need me to Oh Maya what do you feel? Is it time for you to heal? You've got everything you need So feel free

As mentioned in the post above, The Ghostblood Tapes have finished book 4 in real life. Up to this point the songs/paintings were reflecting from books that were at least 3ish years old. Currently the 4th book has been out for under a year. I don't really want to add spoiler tags as the songs/words are ambiguous enough without RAFOing but hopefully quite clear if you've read book 4. Regardless, books 1-4 are now a part of The Ghostblood Tapes so continue at your own discretion.

I think she has a ton of room for growth in a wide variety of directions so i find her exciting as a character.

Evil but not illegal is apt. And so is Adolin's action being rational and not delusional.