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  1. So just re-read Oathbringer, and the moment he's closest to saying the ideal, he's wondering which side is right. The thing that keeps from speaking his ideal is thinking about the people he's known and failed. My money's on the following: Instead of a lessening of responsibility (like accepting loss), I think the next ideal is increasing responsibility. Something along the lines of "I will protect all people, regardless of faction." This is would distinguish them from skybreakers (which pick a side consciously) and be REALLY hard for Kaladin. Kaladin does feel compelled to protect people, but he also feels crushed by the responsibility because he does not know how to accept when he fails people. This also is thematically appropriate for the book, because Kaladin's plot line in the book is exposure: exposure to the singers, exposure to light eyes, and realizing that all these people are the same, which comes to a head when he sees them killing each other. He's so close to the ideal, but he's horrified of the responsibility for casualties on both sides (or all sides) of a conflict. He hasn't been able to protect the people closest to him, how can be strong enough to protect all people? I think Kaladin also fundamentally doesn't understand that the ideals are just that: ideals to strive for, not codes one is expected to live up to. This does seem to run contrary to the gem where a Windrunner feels like the 4th ideal encourages him not to help people... however, that note could still make sense of the person interpreted the 4th ideal of not taking sides as not helping. Or alternatively, that they meant "humans" when they said people.
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