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  1. It actually hasn't been that long since the Shattering of Adonalsium, only a few thousand years, that's nothing, geologically speaking. So it's quite possible that it is a completely natural and inevitable process. Brandon's talked about Investiture gaining sentience multiple times. It's fortuitous that you brought up Devotion and Dominion. Odium Splintered them to prevent that very thing from happening and according to Khriss in the AU, it's happening anyway with the planet itself starting to become aware.
  2. Dogz rule
  3. oh hey, did you know someone did a RAFO glyph It's a shame that the swastika has been monopolized by the Nazis in Western consciousness, it's a symbol of auspiciousness and good fortune in India and Japan
  4. I'll love it if they go the Hangul route and create a featural script
  5. They could be but creating Avatars doesn't really require the Vessel to be a plural lifeform in any way. Avatars are created/born from the natural tendency of a large amount of Investiture left alone over a long period of time to gain sentience. Autonomy's Investiture permeates the entire Cosmere, as it all originally belonged to Adonalsium, who created the entire Cosmere, so not all of Autonomy-aligned Investiture is directly held by the Vessel. Wherever else there is a sufficient amount of Autonomy's Investiture, there is potential for it to become an Avatar of Autonomy. Same goes for every other Shard. The reason I have so much trouble answering these questions (and you'll see me struggling to get an answer in the 10-15 seconds I have when someone asks me in a signing line) is because this isn't an either or. Is this computer I'm using matter associated with Earth, the Big Bang, or such-and-such star that went supernova long ago? Well, it's probably all three. When people ask, "What Shard is this Investiture associated with" it gets very complicated. Shards influence and tweak certain Investiture, giving it a kind of spin or magnetism, but all Investiture ever predates the Shattering--and in the cosmere matter, energy, and Investiture are one thing. I always imagine Investiture having certain states, certain magnetisms if you will, associated with certain aspects of Adonalsium. So it's all "assigned" to a Shard--because it's always been associated with that Shard. To Investiture, Adonalsium's Shattering meant everything and nothing at the same time. We generally mean the term "Invested" to mean a Shard has taken permanent residence in a location, a kind of base of operations--but at the same time, this is meaningless, since distance has no meaning on the Spiritual Realm, where most Shards are. So imprisonment of a Shard like Ruin or Odium is a crude expression--but the best we have. Autonomy never "Invested" on First of the Sun. But even answering (as someone else asked) if they created an avatar without visiting is a difficult thing to explain--because even explaining how a Shard travels (when motion is irrelevant) is difficult to manage. It's a subject that I intend to be up for debate, discussion, and argument by in-world philosophers and arcanists. You can see why I have such troubles explaining these things at signings--and why I fail when I try to, considering the time limitations and (often) fatigue limitations placed upon me. These are concepts I intend to spend entire, lengthy epic volumes explaining and exploring. Let's say you were Autonomy, and you have--through expanding and exploring your understanding--found a gathering of Investiture that has always been there, you always knew about, but still didn't actually recognize until the moment you considered and explored it. (Because even though your power is infinite, accessing and using that infinity is beyond your reach.) Were you "Invested" there? No, no more than you're Invested on Roshar, where parts of what were Adonalsium still exist that are associated with you (in the very fabric of mater and existence.) But suddenly, you have a chance to tweak, influence, and do things that were always possible, but which you never could do because you knew, but didn't know, at the same time. And...I'm already into WAY more than I want to be typing this out right now. If it's confusing, it's because it's practically impossible for me to explain these things in a short span of time. I'm going to leave it here, understanding that no, I haven't fully explained your question. (I didn't even get into what avatars are, what Patji was, and what happened to Patji the being--and how that relates to Patji the island.) But hopefully this kind of starts to point the right direction, though I probably should have just left this question alone because I bet this post is going to raise more questions than it answers... Overlord Jebus You've confused things so much now. We thought we had a pretty good grasp of this whole Patji situation (Autonomy visited the planet at some point, got themselves all Invested and created an avatar which is called Patji by the locals). Now you're saying no Shard has ever visited there? And that the pool would have existed if no Shard had ever interfered? But that Patji still exists and is a Shard? Does that mean Autonomy edited First of the Sun from afar without actually going there? And that the pool would have already existed without any intervention? Does this mean it was associated with Autonomy from the beginning? I'm really confused now. Brandon Sanderson I don't believe I said no Shard had visited. I said no Shard was there during the events of the story. Investiture on First of the Sun predates any Shards fiddling with it. Shards have fiddled with it by the time of the story. I think fandom might be going down too far a rabbit hole on this one. Chaos Are you saying here that Patji is an avatar of Autonomy, or is it a separate Shard and not an avatar of Autonomy? Brandon Sanderson When I said Patji was a Shard, I was meaning Automony--but it is not quite that simple. Take this post to mean "no, you should not be looking toward another Shard for Patji's origins. Autonomy is the one relevant." But Autonomy's relationships with entities like this (not sure entity is the right word, even) is complex. I'm not trying to confuse the issue, though. General Reddit 2018 (March 18, 2018)
  6. When I first came to this topic, there were around 500 pages in it, now there's more than a 1000...
  7. Huh, good point. Chromium does not occur naturally, it's mixed with other stuff in nature. I think the same goes for Nicrosil. But then again, the Lord Ruler did have access to Aluminium. He definitely knew about the metals but he might not have had enough time holding Preservation's power from the Well of Ascension to get easier access to them. Same probably goes for cadmium and Bendalloy.
  8. The book gave several plausible explanations for this, but we don't know for sure how much any and/or each of them contributed to the Sibling's problem with producing Towerlight. The Sibling themselves mostly attribute it to Honor's death, whose Rhythm they can no longer hear. Kalak suggested that all spren were affected by the imprisonment of Mishram which is what lead to Deadeyes being created by the Recreance, this seems to be when the Sibling started having that difficulty but they weren't exactly great at explaining the situation well.
  9. Hmm... I don't remember any mention of 16 in tones or Rhythms, I did keep an eye out for that number. She mentioned 10, 12 & 3: Khriss does mention the no. 16 in the Ars Arcanum though, while talking about the 10 Essences "on Roshar there are considered to be ten elements; not the traditional four or sixteen, depending upon local tradition." (I wonder if the traditional 4 is the same as the classical 4 elements: air, water, earth, fire) I really like the idea of the pure tone of Endowment being able to draw out Breath from a person. Raboniel theorized that the Lights follow the Tones because they resemble the voice of the god Commanding it. But Navani ponders this: Which means Breath must also have Intent: Endowment. And Intent is fundamental to Investiture, even to the tones and Rhythms. Someone couldn't unknowingly hum a Pure Tone to manipulate Light, they must Intend to do so or use an instrument created by someone, in which case the person who made the instrument provides the necessary Intent (We see this in action with Navani expelling Voidlight from Urithiru). So I think it's more likely that with Endowment's Pure Tone one can manipulate their own Breath but not others, you can give, but not take (I'm using the word "take" to mean taking forcefully, so excluding the act of receiving from the giver).
  10. Welcome to the basket!
  11. and that is why so many people like Jasnah, she's the least shounen anime protagonist-y character we're getting when it comes to representation of different philosophies of morality, with a hopefully low chance of being shown the correct pathâ„¢ by a random improbably apolitical lawful good protag. Well that was horrifying... I don't know what to say...
  12. I agree with a lot of this but I think you're completely misrepresenting what people not arguing in favour of Lirin's actions are trying to say. Regardless, probably better not to mix these two threads. I'm not even touching the lockdown argument.
  13. Welcome to the Shard!
  14. I was thinking something along the lines of... falling into ease... not laziness, not habitual either, dawdling? complacency? That's the closest word I can think of but that's not quite it. No wait, I know it... Procrastination... or akrasia! That fits even better.