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Everyone seems to be forgetting the speed at which bendally burns. It’s one of the fastest, being up there with pewter and even atium. Many of these combos are in theory powerful but the amount of bendalloy being burned is barely feasible. Unless storing F-steel allowed you to essentially have a longer A-bendalloy and then you had an additional F/A attribute. So yeah hemalurgy and Mistborn stuff needed here. Not to burst anyone’s bubble (no pun intended).

A-chromium and F-Steel. Hyperdrive. No more needs to be said. isnt there also 256 possible twinborn combos or is my maths questionable. This could be a problematic rabbit hole.

Well Malatium is incomprehensible because when you see your future shadow it changes what you will do so I don’t know if any additional mental speed would help in the regard though it could still be an effect malatium gives and then that’s another thing that balances the scales when fighting someone with atium vs Malatium. Again this is the amount of shadows becoming incomprehensible, meaning the atium is essentially nullified but because there’s so much going on i would think you could all but ignore the effect, especially since it’s emphasised their shadows not like renarins vision shananagins. We also know that gold isn’t the same future sight as atium or Malatium, it’s a different kind. It’s personal foresight where the only person affected is you so maybe it’s less mind melting. It’s actually quite likely all the metals have some inate enhancements on the mind for the Misting/Mistborn to be able to use them. For instance a normal non-invested human brain would likely not be able to use the metal lines as effectively as Vin or Kelsier. Similarly no human could handle a pewter drag without the enhanced balance. Also when thinking about furture sight and mental effects in Allomancy we need to remember Feruchemy is actually a different art. It draws parallels and uses very similar fuels/vessels for its investiture but it is different. A-tin sight dulls the mists and allows for vision in little to no light, F-tin is better long distance vision or seeing fine details. So there’s a lot going on here which can have very different effects used in seperate ways.

Yeah but I’m saying atium increases proprioception among other things. It 100% increases mental speed and comprehension of what’s going on, it says so in WoA I think, so don’t hang off my words too much I’m speculating.

You mean proprioception? I’m pretty sure it’s cannon this can be stored with F-tin along with other more vague senses. Also that’s a completely over the top power, my theory to why atium is so dangerous is because it increases your ability to use the new information and proprioception as a biproduct. it gave vin the power to grab a crossbow bolt which moved through her, that’s gotta be better special awareness and perception. Honestly if I were a tin compounder or even feruchemist this is the sense I’d be compounding. (note because I’m a smartass, spider mans spider sense is basically proprioception overdose I’m pretty sure)

I’ve always wondered, can soulcasting create alloyed metal? Cause with smelting, especially in the allomantic sense a specific percentage of each metal is needed to form an alloy. On that note, would the metals in the fabrial cage have to be the allomantic percentage or would it have more leeway (allomantic percentage being that where the allowances in question can burn the metal safely)? Could you with the right Intent soulcast a god metal? With spudcasting a level of Intent is needed that I think @honorblades scadrians would likely be the input of metals.

True but what would be the pourpose otherwise. Aluminium works like cheap shardplate. If the Fabrial theory is sound then he would need to stab himself almost to the gemheart. Also does he feel pain when replacing his carapace? Also it’s specifically said that El’s carapace is removed not like, moulded to the metal.

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Yeah I was thinking that. But would tension work on aluminium? Besides I wanna see a surge of division fused

I wonder if there are gems attached to the metal beneath the skin (carapace?). I doubt you could use a Gemheart as a fabrial anyway, or if you did it would have very varied effects with each different form, due to the spren having different effects on the gemheart/fabrial. Do Fused change forms? Also, Do Voidspren work in fabrials? Do any Higher spren? I would like to see a Fused practising Hemalurgy, But does Roshar have access to all the metals from the metallic arts? Navini's notes mention they domt know some things still (I think this was mentioned earlier), is this because they just don't have the metals at all? I would think they do, being Rabionel has access to White Sand and Mraze has a Yolish stick so...

Well, that's the thing- The cage has to have contact with the gem for the effects to work, and El specifically replaces his carapace with it. And with the metal, if he were to return during the everstorm does the metal come with him? Does he inhabit a body then replace the metal or is he like the heralds, having a body made for him. Would a hemalurgically charged or fabrial tch come through with him? Or is El gonna rock up in an M-Bot level spaceship, cause I doubt he can re-spawn with all his buffs. What do we think his powers are? because we know they affect how he replaces his Carapace. Regrowth perhaps? I'm honestly really hoping he's got something different going on. Maybe the surge of adhesion allows him to mould his carapace?? There's also the fact that we haven't seen any Fused with the surge of Division, could Brandon be saving it for El?

Hey, long time fan huh? How technical do you get with the relmatics and Intent Command ideas?

Damn. Maybe a keeper? We know they were capable of it. Sazed could have killed Marsh but he didn't. Kwaan perhaps? Did Kwaan meet inquisitors?

So, El the Fused has unknown metal sheets in the place of his carapace correct? He is also a known high ranking Fused. I wonder if His metallic carapice are made of aluminium to resist radiants. We know Aluminium behaves in a similar way to Shardplate, resisting shardblades, lashings, and to an extent Anit-Light (Nightblood). Has El been replicating shardplate? Is he going to become a more high steaks villain than the current Fused (Frankly underwhelming (See Steel Inquisitors better bad guys than Fused?)). Is he really going to be the Nine Shadowed Champion? Frankly, I hope not.

I feel like with the addition of Anti-light into Stormlight Archive the steaks will get higher. I still think inquisitors are 100% the better villain and even Hemalurgy to an extent (With bad guys still using it) but with Anti-investiture spren and fused are immediately more vulnerable. I think that El might be a little higher steaks, having metal embedded into him is also super cool and possibly aluminium (Which raises the question is it invariability to anit-light or investiture?). There's also the aspect that Fused don't run out of Voidlight apart from to heal, making them harder to kill than radiants, but generally weaker. They might be a bit more fun with Fused (Specifically Heavenly ones) using more active lashings, or if we get higher level powers from them. I'd be excited to see a Bondsmith level Fused fight Kaladin or whoever Mr Nine Shadows is. But I'm really dreading Odium Champion being someone who is one book, or underwhelming. Plot twist, What If Marsh is Odium's champion? That would be sick. Inquisitor Vs Knight radiant Four books sooner than anticipated. At the moment Hemalurgy in general is cooler than The fused and their Voildlight surgebinding but I think back half might have some more potential with higher power levels and anti investiture.

also if I remember correctly the dude who stabbed spook through the pewterarm behaved almost like he was being propelled by another being (It was Ruin wasn't it?). So This dude had the intent to stab through the pewter to specifically spike Spook. So there's your Intent.

...that could hypothetically work. You could similarly have an art critic who could see the slightest flaws in a forgery. Or a music critic etc. with the savantism skipping though, I would argue that they'd have a fit from overstimulated senses. Like when Vin Duraluminium burned Tin she would have had similar effects to savantism, but no use for them because their overwhelming. Spook would have built up a resilience to this level of allomancy that he could be productive. If a compounded were to draw out senses at the same rate would they not have a similar breakdown to Vin? Or only be able to use one sense (For instance feeling the air move) at a time.

I politely object to the ability to "pull a Spook" and argue about the point of being able to run through fire. I always believed that Spook's predicament was extraordinary, that is even a tin savant would have to be burning tin a ridiculous amount. Like- If you could "act like a normal person in some circumstances" then, while burning Tin you couldn't be at Spook's level. He was literally burning tin 24/7 all the time. The tin burner (Who could act normal) wouldn't have the capacity to get to such heightened senses while presenting as a normal person. Spook couldn't act like a normal person ever. He had to blindfold himself to see properly. Personally, I still think that Spook was feeling the same as a normal person. Considering he was burning tin 24/7, I think his perception of a "baseline sensation" would be much much lower than what he's used to. He'd be living with such heightened senses that he'd almost adapt to living like that. So much so that in comparison to daily life for him whilst burning, running through fire at the sense of a normal person is a breeze. I don't know if that makes any sense but yeah.

I have no idea what your talking about. Spook is awesome. Besides, he could dodge a sword by feeling the air, almost like a seer. I find tin compounding would be super useful. Hearing the cocking of a gun, the rippling cloth of a Windrunner lashing, even hearing someones breathing. Super senses are overpowered.

Mistborn was where I started and got me hooked to the magic systems, and Mistborn i found was good because there are very few cosmere references in era 1, having hoid rock up only twice. Stormlight is a much larger saga but is a little overwhelming. I recommend working your way up to it with warbreaker (my personal favorite) and Elantris.

Here's a thought, Tin compounders, could they simultaneously burn tin while storing, say hearing, to minimise the effects of loud noises? Could they become a tin savant with little or no negative effects? Could they become a savant without the constant burning by burning their metalminds?

Is the bubble destroyed when overlapping aluminium, could you have aluminium inside a bubble? else how would aluminium guns be used inside the bubble? Alternatively, could bullets with ettmetal embedded inside to be used by cadmium misting to slow their opponents and make them (if not gruesome) easy pickings? After all the 'grenade' (I can't remember the official Southern Scadrian name for the cube) was activated after throwing, perhaps some intent shenanigans are involved?

There are also definitive ways to change investitures forms, so if one were to get some lerasium could they not burn metals for fuel instead? Alternatively, there's a lot of investiture floating around in general that could be converted. And assuming the scholars had failed experiments they can just retain much of the breath they used (Exceptions being the lifeless experiments)