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  1. Not a lot new this week, but there's still some exciting things, such as a sweepstakes to celebrate the launch of Rhythm of War in paperback, and some fun previously-known things occurring such as the release of ReDawn (the second Skyward Flight novella) and a stream this weekend. As always, starting with the writing updates: Defiant prewriting is at 80%. He still plans to finish the first draft of the novel by January first, but it may be a bit tight. Additionally, Tor is running a sweepstakes to celebrate the paperback release of Rhythm of War. No purchase is necessary to enter, but you must live in the United States or Canada (excluding Quebec). The sweepstakes will run through November 8th (11:59PM ET), after which one winner will be picked to receive a Stormlight Archive satchel (made by BeastmanCaravan, whose page appears to be down unfortunately) and an amethyst Stormlight Archive D20 (made by RainbowShopCN). In YouTube news, Brandon put out a behind-the-scenes video about the Mistborn playing cards, as well as another "Five Favorites" video (this time with Brandon Mull) and of course, the weekly episode of Intentionally Blank came out last Wednesday. While that's about it for new things, this upcoming week also has a few big previously-announced things happening. Firstly, ReDawn comes out tomorrow! The trailer for the novella (if it can be called that, long as it is) featuring clips from the audiobook can be found on YouTube, a preview of the eBook version is up on Kobo, and preorder links for both digital and audio formats are listed on the publisher's page. Also, the fanmail stream is this Saturday, October 30th, at 3PM MDT. Brandon and his wife Emily will be dressed up in costumes and working through a lot of the fanmail they've been sent since they stopped having the segments in regular streams. (Questions will not be taken from chat, only from mail they open.) If the link is made available beforehand, as Adam sometimes does, this article will be updated with it, but if not, it'll be on Brandon's channels on various platforms like YouTube and Twitch. The full video is on YouTube, as always, as well as embedded below:
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    TL;DR: Pretty sure that "Physical Adhesion" is just an extremely limited form of Spiritual Adhesion, as opposed to a separate manifestation of the concept. (This theory's a lot less complex than many of my others, so it's gonna be way shorter and less formatted.) Rereading the Ars Arcanum, a couple things stood out to me about Adhesion: If it's just a Physical binding, it's odd it's so completely unbreakable, and "binding objects together as if they were one" certainly doesn't sound very Physical when put next to the other powers of Adhesion. In fact, it sounds somewhat similar to what Ishar did: Now, obviously the effects are not exactly the same—the Pursuer doesn't get all his Voidlight drained out, and neither does Lopen. But it might be a version of the same thing with a weaker Connection, or perhaps making them "as one" in a different way than directly making the surface part of the target's body. But yeah, after what we saw with Ishar and the emphasis in RoW of Adhesion as a much more spiritual force ("Honor’s Truest Surge, the Surge of Binding and Oaths"), I think that "Physical Adhesion" isn't a separate manifestation of the Surge from "Spiritual Adhesion" at all, it's just that Windrunners don't have enough raw power to manipulate the Connection in more complex or deeper ways than a quick "you, you're that now". Perhaps it's similar to how normally Allomancers can only Push and Pull on metal, but if you chuck enough Investiture into the spiritweb via something like the Bands of Mourning, you reach the point you can see and nearly interact with the souls of objects and people, like Marasi and Wax mention? A Bondsmith spren probably has enough Investiture that when it starts to enter your spiritweb, it pushes the limits of what's possible pretty far compared to a normal sapient spren. (None of this is particularly groundbreaking as a concept, but "Spiritual Adhesion" and "Physical Adhesion" are still distinctions I've seen thrown around and even used myself until very recently, so I think it's still worth a discussion even if it's probably happened before.)
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    I guess I can see that, though I don't agree. Oh I definitely disagree, so far all the fabrials we know are very closely tied to the thing, though sometimes in interesting ways. Painspren in fabrials can raise or lower pain levels, flamespren raise or lower heat, etc. What exactly is up with logicspren, the oddest ones, isn't fully clear (though it should be noted the timing thing isn't an effect from manifestation, just from leaking), but logic & debate -> timing is a Cosmere-wide association that appears in AonDor as well. So it does seem the concepts are intrinsically tied to their effects in some way. I'm mostly going off how Khriss talks about it: Which sounds like the "self-aware" spren at hand are the personifications of the forces, along with how Brandon has described them as "living Surges" before, and how Wyndle speaks about the Ideals: The way I've viewed the spren, based off these things, is that they sort of like... represent the intersections of all these concepts. On Roshar, the Surges and Essences are personified and viewed as interconnected, and so we end up with things like "Zephyr is associated with Adhesion and Gravitation, and offers protection and leadership", and by tying a large enough chunk of Investiture to this concept we end up with honorspren, a mind that is what people imagine its mind to be (filtered through Honor and Cultivation's Intents). I wish we knew what spren envoyform was based on... lol. Going off the ones we do know (gravitationspren, which appear around heavy objects, and painspren, which appear around... well you can probably guess , and stormspren, which appear around lightning), it seems the forms are sort of adapting the singer towards the spren's concept (in an often more abstract way, as you'd expect from living ideas). I'd argue Regal forms are more analogous to the normal forms than to Radiants, the concepts are just... stranger when put in a person, and the spren probably more deeply integrated (going off how much Odium can influence with them). Not sure if that actually argues the point in any way, now that I reread it, though... Lol, fair. Let me make a different point: the access to Scadrian things is all tied to metal, but the powers are not. I'd argue Light and/or spren in general are more analogous to metals than the Surges, as powers, are. That's fair. In that case, though, I think it's more a matter of philosophy than mechanics (though those are tightly intertwined in the Cosmere and on Roshar in particular, so perhaps that's not really a position that can exist), and more vague and complicated than a direct correlation. Like, they're Transformation etc in the way that the Metallic Arts are, if you view everything through the lens of the Surges, as opposed to being a "pure" Surge. Does that make sense or am I just rambling detatchedly? who knows lmao I agree there, mostly. I don't think they can all plug into the Radiant bond, because I don't think the bond can get deep enough to let a person manipulate their power without hacks like how a gemheart seems to be weird and maybe tied into the soul, but I think you can get something like what we see with Plate spren (lesser spren being pulled into the Physical more strongly), which I see as the same sort of mechanic but more shallowly. (Though I'm not sure that these are all distinct categories as much as a spectrum of things Investiture can do that we're picking points out on.) Oh I definitely disagree. Well, sort of. Let me try and think of how to put this, the way I view it is clear in my mind but not really in words. I do not think that oaths are essential, even now. I think commitment, intention, is, along with understanding. We see with characters like Lift, Venli, and Eshonai that you don't need to say anything, or even think a specific thing in the case of when the first two hit their Ideals (at least with my understanding of when Lift hit her Ideal, which is debated). What you do need is to align your intentions with the spren's Intent, and to understand the Ideal (the Stormfather's description of Connection as a bond of knowledge feels relevant here). (And the spren moves towards, the human, too, becoming more changing and varied.) I think what we see in Rhythm of War is at least conceptually similar, and maybe even mechanically the same sort of thing: The intentions and identities (possibly capitalized, possibly not) aligning and becoming one greater whole that represents both. Which is I think why it requires both a sapient spren and sapient creature, it's something they both have to actively choose and work towards. (Interestingly, when Teft summons Phendorana at the end, it says "He felt something from Phendorana. A harmony between them.", which I feel lines up with that idea.) The second thing is that I don't think the steps are as discrete as people think. I think instead they're the tipping points, where the bond becomes strong enough to do specific things: Properly establish the bond so it won't fade ??? because we see too few knowledgeable First Ideal Radiants for too short a time to compare Manifest the spren physically Manifest other spren their main spren is Connected to physically ??? We see in RoW with Kaladin that being close to the Ideal lets him in some ways work the same as someone who has hit it. And at the end, Teft is able to go a step further and summon Phendorana physically, with effort. And of course, there's what Brandon's said about Shallan's "1.1 steps forward, 1 step backward" thing happening a lot. So I don't think it's necessarily the case there's only five codified steps that can be taken, it's just that there's certain points most people naturally struggle with, and overcoming this strengthens this bond of intention and knowledge a significant amount and this moves it past certain tipping points where it becomes much easier to do something instead of having to struggle to push it through. (Kaladin using the windspren in OB is imo another indication of this being looser than they tend to treat it as—he's' not Fourth Ideal yet, but can clearly do things that are traditionally considered something that belongs there.) So I do think the oaths are an artificial construct, but less a magical addition and more just a way to help people intuitively grasp the ideas more, and a natural effect of the common stopping points + the fact that we often find putting something into words and expressing it to make commitment feel stronger and more lasting and important. (I think the Skybreakers are the most clear case of this: I find it highly doubtful they have super oddly specific steps compared to literally every other order so far, I think it's just that this is a method they worked out that helps bring people in line with the concepts in an orderly and clear way.) I also think that the nature of the spren, being made of Honor and Cultivation/oaths and growth, lend themselves to those kinds of things even more than already would be the case. The way I've been thinking of it, the Enlightened spren represent a similar concept, but just as Honor and Cultivation filter the concept's manifestation, so too does Odium. The Rhythms are a good example of what I mean—what is Curiosity under Honor and Cultivation becomes Craving under Odium. So I think they'll be the "same" in that they're an expression of the same base idea, but different in that it's flavoured differently. (This may or may not be the case as well with Plate spren vs Blade spren. The former seem imo to on average line up with more wild and Cultivation-y concepts, from what we know of them, while the true spren are more orderly interpretations of the same base idea, adding more Honor into the mix. But this doesn't perfectly line up, so that may be coincidence rather than a solid pattern. Hard to tell, with how few of the cousin spren we know.) That actually gives me a good transition for what I was just talking about: Same basic concept of creation and curiosity, taken in a far more Odious direction, overpowering and violent. But yeah, I agree the bond can theoretically happen, for sure, and that's good evidence. I don't agree. I think the reason they haven't bonded singers is mostly due to whatever Blended is talking about when she refers to the singers betraying them: something happened during the ancient days that drove a massive wedge between the two, and since this was before the Radiant bond was discovered... Ashynite things in general just don't have many bonds, so I think the lack of spren bonding humans is just that. Ryshadium are super rare and are about the only other example of an Ashynite species bonding, and even then they only seem to bond one kind, most likely. The true spren were able to actively make the choice to go bond humans anyway, because of the Odium stuff, but for the others it just kinda didn't occur for whatever the reason is. I don't think that the Rosharan magic systems are directly Shardic, personally. On Scadrial, the magic comes from having pieces of the Shards in them due to being created by those Shards (we ignore Hemalurgy because I have no idea what causes that one lmao, but Brandon's referred to "the seeds of the three Metallic Arts" being in Scadrians for that reason before), but on Roshar, it comes from the spren being in the spiritweb. So I think the magic systems are less tied to the Shards, and more to the individual spren (with the similarities arising from the similarities in composition of those spren). (I think Sel is another example of this: we know the relationship between Radiant and spren is similar to that between Elantrian and Arelon, so that situation probably comes from people in different regions getting their magics from different "spren". While those "spren" aren't sapient, they're also huge, so even a relatively shallower bond with one still grants a decent amount of power.) As mentioned, I think it's less of Honor, but more of the spren. However, since the spren are themselves of H&C, it manifests in a way very tied to those Intents combined: Imo it's less that, and more what I mentioned above about the fact it requires them to commit and grow as well. I think it's less a conscious judgement of the oaths and more just that the spiritwebs repel each other, unless the two sides both actively try and change themselves to align and be able to mix, and they can meld more deeply as they grow more alike one another. I do think that's plausible, and wonder if it's part of why the windspren can manifest as Plate at the Fourth Ideal. Ordinarily, they can't choose to Connect deeply enough for that, but perhaps the growing bond has over time granted them enough will to make this decision. I do agree there, since I think windspren are manifestations of the same Surges (though they might manifest slightly differently due to the two types of spren not being exactly the same, but probably not super differently either going off the orders with shared Surges). I'm just not sure it would necessarily be even a noticeably usable thing at that level, both because of how tiny the spren are and because the spren can't work for a stronger bond, at least at first. But I think theoretically it'd grant Adhesion and Gravitation, yeah. Depends how you define a magic system: is it the powers, or the access method? (In other words, is Compounding more Feruchemy or Allomancy?) Renarin uses Voidbinding-associated powers, I agree, but I have to think that Voidbinding the system has a more unique access method, which would also be a valid way of categorizing the systems. (But that's rather pedantic, lol.) Tangent, but I do think that, considering spren of any of the three Shards appear to be able to plug into Radiance, form bonds, manifested fabrials, and imprisoned fabrials, spren of Honor and Cultivation should be able to plug into the mechanism for Voidbinding, whatever that is. It's a fun crack theory of mine that that's what's going on with Adolin and Maya, though considering we don't know what Voidbinding actually is it's hard to say, lol. Agreed, what I mean is more like, does it use wholly different things? Or does it use spren that, similar to windspren and honorspren or probably mistspren and Glys, are taking the same concept but in an Odious way? Given what we see with Re-Shephir being like a creationspren, I'm inclined to think it's the latter, which (if the spren are indeed the Surges, as Khriss seems to indicate) would explain it being Surge-based, but interpreted through the lens of violence and emotion instead of growth, ideals, and oaths. Seriously lmao... Sooo many pieces with them. Individual Surges, Shardblades, Shardplate, cousin spren commanding, resonances, mixed Surges...
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    ikr, SMH Hm, could be. We admittedly don't quite know what Soulcaster spren really are yet. Preeeettty much lol. I do get that, I just disagree that connecting it all to Surges reduces the complexity. There's dozens or hundreds of kinds of spren, and trying to narrow down everything to the Surges just feels... odd, to me, though I can understand the desire. But why/how would painspren or musicspren or fermentationspren or gloomspren or awespren or anxietyspren etc even be Surges? They're chunks of Investiture coming to life based on perception of things, it's a lot looser a basis than some of the other planets. I disagree for the reason above. The Scadrian magic is inherently metal-based, every single manifestation of it, and we've seen no reason to think otherwise (and the effects of the metal are based on Cosmere-wide principles, not solely a Scadrian magical construct). But with Roshar, we know that this isn't inherent, if people perceived things differently then the Surges and spren would be different, it's not some fundamental thing to the Cosmere or even the system. So I don't think the concepts that come alive are limited to the Surges, personally. This question's raised either way, tbf. Regal powers aren't one-to-one with orders (there's more of them), pretty much any spren can be used in a fabrial, plenty of spren can make singer forms or bond to other Rosharan lifeforms, and yet only ten types can form the orders of Knights Radiant. I think it relates mainly to the fact that these are the types of spren that, for whatever reason, Honor and Cultivation decided to uplift to sapience. We know it is hypothetically possible you could get different orders from other kinds of spren, but at the moment isn't something that can happen, which I feel is because this deeper (imo) kind of bond that allows a human or singer to directly manipulate the concept the spren represents is something that requires both an intelligent spren that can choose to make such a bond, and a spren that has enough Investiture to actually do much (a Shardblade, which is one spren, is harder to push on than Plate, which is a dozen or so spren, so seemingly they are a lot more Invested than their "cousins"). Which I also feel is the reason why bonding Syl lets Kaladin use the power, but bonding the windspren only lets him tell them to do things, despite being associated with the same Surges, so presumably the power being Surge-based isn't the distinction there. Depends on what exactly Voidbinding is or where it comes from, tbf. Nah I get it, it's an interesting discussion! Yeah, I doubt the answer is just "Raboniel forgot" or something lmao, there's probably a solid reason. Yeah it's iffy with the notes, it's more a case of me going "what could you do with powers Ishar can access (his Bondsmith powers, plus maybe some Soulcaster or Regrowth fabrials like Nale has) to achieve such an effect?" than "what did Ishar specifically do?", because I can't come up with much that does fit with the notes. Maybe, but the Memories are something Shallan has to actively intentionally take and draw upon, while the mood effect seems to be more just something that they kind of often unintentionally make people nearby feel. So to me the former feels closer to an intentional use of magic (if not well-understood), while the latter feels more like a sort of effect that just happens. Eh... I'm definitely not convinced this is actually a thing besides on a narrative level, especially after RoW where we learn one of the biggest pieces (Jasnah's Soulcasting vs Shallan's) is just Shallan not being good at it and Jasnah being really good at it, and the other Lightweavers do just fine. Yeah...
  5. It's... weird. Because while Kelsier did Ascend as a Shadow, Tanavast's CS merged with the Stormfather's Investiture instead, as Brandon has said a spren would do. So on one end we have types of people who can just Ascend, on the other we have types of people who can just merge, and then we have types of people in a grey area who can somehow do either depending on the situation... And the differences between any of these states are ??? My guess is Nightblood theoretically could (though I'm not sure how it'd occur), but that's mostly a gut guess, instead of something I can point to any reason for.
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    Iirc that was mostly that a lot of things they weren't aware were doors because they close so neatly. But that might also be my brain making things up lol. Yeah... lot of questions and I have no clue, tbh, lmao. It's a really interesting thing but also most of the characters were a bit too busy to explain But if it's not of the Sibling, what spren would it be of, that would be Bondsmith-y? Could be. I've been inclined to think of it as just a specialized Soulcasting, but that sounds plausible too. Hmm, I wonder if it's just that the veins can't be infused well for mutters and waves hands vaguely some reason. Because I can't imagine the "veins" aren't connected to the "heart". Hm, yeah, that's really weird. Oh I definitely strongly disagree. Radiants are Surge-based because the spren they bond are the Surges, I don't see why spren that represent different concepts would be limited to that system. We know from WoBs that if there were spren on Earth, the powers would be different (for example, spren that grant electromagnetism), because they're based on perception and not inherent, and so I don't things that are unrelated concepts would have to tie into those ten at all. Agreed, we've not got much of a clue to be able to say. My current theory is that it involves tying a spren to a body (just like stapling a Cognitive Shadow to one) and then hitting it with a massive burst of healing to match its new Cognitive and Spiritual ideals, but that's entirely a guess. Yep, which is interesting, since "Bondsmith" and "Lightweaver" existed prior and are broader Cosmere terms (at least the latter is broader). I wonder which of the order names are preexisting and which are new. Agreed. Wonder if the Lightweaver aura is to either Soulcasting or the Memories as "strength of squires" is to a Reverse Lashing. Kind of a weird passive more solely Cognitive and Spiritual version. Lmao true
  7. Chiller week this time, in comparison to the past few. Brandon's released his schedule for Dragonsteel Mini-Con, as well as details about how to sign up for his class. He also gave us a tease about "movie stuff" he can't give any details on yet. Before we get to that, progress has been made on Defiant prewriting, of course, but we didn't get any progress bar percentage this time. Onto more exciting news, Brandon has released his schedule for the Dragonsteel Mini-Con: Monday, Nov. 22nd: 4:00 MDT — Intentionally Blank recording 7:00 MDT — Spoiler Discussion and Q&A 8:30 MDT — MTG Charity Draft Tuesday, Nov. 23rd: 7:00 MDT — Cytonic Release Event The schedule for other booths and partners is TBA. Additionally, signups for Brandon's workshop class at BYU will be open from 10-11PM MDT on October 23rd. While the lecture class is open for normal enrollment (and often gets posted on YouTube—2020's series can be found in this playlist), the workshop class will be fifteen students, picked from the applications by Brandon's friend and continuity editor Karen. One does NOT have to be a BYU student to apply, though if you get in but don't attend the university, you'll have to sign up for evening classes there while you're in the class. A bit of extra weight is given to applicants who have finished novels before, as well as those who have already taken the lecture course. Specific instructions to apply can be found on his website, as can a sample syllabus for the course. We also got an exciting tidbit, that Brandon is working on some sort of movie stuff that he can't announce yet or give details about, which is slowing Defiant prewriting. He's hinted about this a few times in livestreams, but we still don't know what it's all about. He also released a review of the film Free Guy (the second video in his new Rapid Review series), and of course last week's episode of his podcast Intentionally Blank is up on his channel. As a reminder, ReDawn, the second Skyward Flight novella, releases in eBook and audio next week, on the 26th! Preorder links can be found on Penguin Random House's site, and a preview can be found on Kobo's page. Lastly, the preorder giveaways for Cytonic from last week's update are still running, for those in the US. As always, the update can be found on Brandon's YouTube channel, with a transcript eventually going on his blog:
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    I don't mean that those planets have more spren, to be clear, I was referring to the effects on the planet in general. Roshar has some more spren, but Sel has a giant plasma storm infusing the Cognitive Realm, and Threnody has... a mess.
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    She is "not necessarily the most consistent of entities in the cosmere when it comes to making decisions like this" and "can be somewhat...erratic", yeah. On the other hand, it got made by a few Returned, to end a war between Returned, motivated by competition with another Returned, and was brought to Roshar by a Returned (potentially after confronting Yesteel... a Returned), as well as that Endowment was more involved in NB's creation than usual, though not to the extent some think. And we know that Vasher has not yet fulfilled his purpose nor really had a chance to, but that we will find it out eventually and that the Everstorm signals something bad for him. Combine that with her confidence that "if Rayse becomes an issue, he will be dealt with", and I think it seems an awful lot like she wanted NB there. I think the trick is, the Returned have free will, and she doesn't try to control them after they come back. Brandon's said that "It's a nature of Endowment that the gift is given without strings attached, so to speak" when talking about why Breath isn't tied to a planet, and the way he puts it ("it's a nature of Endowment") makes me think it's pretty inherent to the power. She can give the Returned a choice to try and Return to accomplish something and give them a second chance, but they aren't bound to do as she wishes or even as they wished when accepting, if they don't want to. So her plans can't be as simple as "get this guy to do this", they have to be more of the form "find someone who wants to do x and someone who will respond to x in one of y different ways and lead to any of z outcomes that I'd be pleased with". For example, Blushweaver wanted to attack Idris, while Lightsong wanted to stop the war, both of which could result in the Court of Gods surviving (and so a mechanism for Returned with longer-term goals to be able to survive), but it's up to them and their desires to try and convince the other to do what's necessary and pick which path will actually happen, not something Endowment can order them to do. Hence, the Returned don't all have a consistent purpose, they just seem likely to push things any of multiple different ways she'll be happy about. And I think this is why she can simultaneously talk about the pact not to interfere while also seeming rather likely (in my opinion) to be behind Nightblood ending up on Roshar: she is not interfering nor making people interfere. Independent agents are interfering, of their own free will and uncoerced, she just gave them a free gift that they decided they wanted to use that way. (Whether that actually counts as a valid excuse or not is up to debate, but if in her mind it works, I think that's enough.) Oh hm that's another good point I forgot about as well. Yeah, it's not gonna work too well for killing another Vessel right away. Iirc it's been mentioned there are more spren nowadays, but still nothing on the level of, say, Threnody or Sel, so it does seem like Splintering can be a lot calmer, yeah.
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    Skimming back, I think they just move open. Interestingly, they also work fine when using Stormlight even when the suppressor is on, which makes sense if it's part of the Sibling... but the forcefield fabrial does the same and is definitely something added after the fact. Oh jeez. Agreed, yeah. Honestly I just don't think it needs to all be Surges in the first place, any more than a painrial or a conjoiner is functioning via Surge manipulation. I think it can just be looser than that, but most spren don't have enough power/control over that power to use it more flexibly than messing with the concepts they embody. That's fair. Man I forgot all about that quote. Definitely makes the Honorblades sound super scary. Don't forget Division, aka the UnLashing! They also have that weird mood-boosting effect Shallan and Tien both have, though I suppose that might not be a resonance and just be passive Transformation, or something. Honestly could be, though now that you mention that I realize the Stormfather is very air-related too, so the wind reason doesn't work well for why Dalinar can't do it
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    Mercy was also involved in the fight, so it's quite likely imo that the two were there together (especially as the others seem to actually buy his excuse). We don't really know how Sel and Threnody went down, exactly, but Mercy made it out alive, Ambition did make it out of the system before being Splintered, and D&D seem to have been putting themselves into the Cognitive Realm or something, and Odium ended up wounded from all of this in some way. Whether or not they'd be able to kill him is anyone's guess, but if Honor's there attempting to counter his actions and Cultivation's there attacking, it would probably have a higher shot of survival than what they did. But what they did is much more certain to keep him imprisoned there even after they die (as we see with Honor), if their highest priority is keeping him from attacking others rather than making it out in one piece themselves. I'd be shocked if a Shard so focused around interpersonal connection wasn't willing to at least take the advice of his partner into account when deciding upon a course so detrimental to both themselves and the entire planet they're on. Unlike Rayse, she's well aware Nightblood is there. She can attack the power or grab it and move it elsewhere until Szeth walks off with the sword and T is left without it. Already the case, with the Everstorm, Voidspren, Fused, Unmade, etc. Gonna need to work out a way to handle that in either case. And ultimately sentient but non-sapient spren don't seem to be too much of an issue, considering that non-sapient normal spren kind of just are there, and sapient ones seem to require direct intention to create (which would allow adding in other Investitures to the process to control and direct things more, along with adding other non-Shardic focuses in the way the Radiant spren are based on Surges). It's not exactly like it can fight back, and most of the other Shards have shown no inclination to attack anyone anyway (so far Odium seems to be the only one who's gone out and attacked others, even Ruin was content to settle down and make a planet until Preservation betrayed him).
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    Considering she was at the very tip-top of his kill list, probably not much of an ally. Imprisoning him to the system feels like a pretty specific kind of sacrifice move. Could've just let Honor try and imprison him and then struck herself while he was doing that, or attacked together to try and drive him off, but instead they decided "nope, we're trapping him in, only one side is making it out alive", and potentially in a way that harmed them quite a lot depending on how close the Stormfather's analogy to the Oathpact is. This route doesn't feel like something that would be decided on unless both parties were onboard. If all she wants is to just turn him out and doesn't really care, then she doesn't need that. Just make him swear to leave her alone and let him go, if necessary point out to him that he's got no idea what he's doing with the power and she can help if he agrees or attack otherwise. Maybe even stop him from grabbing the power at all without an agreement in place. Her plan may be simple or complicated, but either way it's clearly not just "doesn't matter as long as he's gone".
  13. Maybe? Depends on a few factors: How the Heralds are immortal vs how the Fused are immortal. Don't know enough to speculate. The nature of the Oathpact. The Heralds' souls are bound together and also out making a prison, somehow. This might leave them more stretched out or more entangled, in which case trying to trap Jezrien's soul might not have been a very clean move and might've ripped off and/or left behind bits tied to the rest. What happens when the raysium does what it does. Raboniel seems to think the humans will work out a method more similar to how Nergaoul was trapped (though she doesn't really seem to know how she thinks a Fused will be trapped that way, which does make me think she's more exploiting others' fears than making a real argument), which may be less invasive than ripping a soul out of a body through a small knife. Also, the blackened wound + black smoke may indicate that the raysium caused damage and leaked out bits of soul, which probably is unhealthy. Additionally there's the fact that part of what Kalak attributes as a cause is the Oathpact being severed, but Jezrien's death itself is what severed it, so Kalak might not quite know the mechanics at play here as much as he acts like he does (which does make sense, as he hasn't really had a shot to play around with these things much). I'm also not fully sure if I think Honor being Splintered even should affect them or not, because the fact the Stormfather can still pull through Stormlight constantly and the Sibling can still pull through Towerlight shows there's still plenty to draw on in the Spiritual Realm. Plus, the other Heralds haven't pulled a Returned and dropped dead over the past couple thousand years, so I'm inclined to think they're still getting their juice.
  14. A Fused trapped in a gem would, like Jezrien lack a valid connection to the Physical Realm. But I take it from Raboniel’s statement would retain a sufficient connection to the Spiritual. I'm not sure how much the Fused actually do or don't understand about what was happening with Jezrien, especially the ordinary ones who aren't super involved in the sciencey stuff. So Raboniel might a.) not know that's why that happened, or b.) be fearmongering to push them to go with her plan. Or c.) it might actually be accurate and a Fused wouldn't die.
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    Sazed does say that she's someone Hoid should approach again (and basically the only one of the sixteen who seems to have any positive feelings about Hoid lmao), so I doubt she's one of those who interpreted it as a hard oath. Considering his goal is "kill everyone else and be the sole remaining God", probably difficult to convince many others to join him. Plus, he's using the fact the people he's attacked have been paired up and thus breaking what some see as a pact as an excuse, which as we see with Endowment and Autonomy's letters has helped keep the other Shards off his back, so partnering with others would ruin this logic. And yet, she alongside Honor participated in his binding to the system (the Stormfather says her power and Honor's bind Odium's like the Oathpact), which would be odd if she didn't want him to be stuck there. She also worked with Honor to make the Sibling for the war effort, and the Nightwatcher has made Bondsmiths for that as well. She's been subtle with her direct actions, but she's been involved with all this from the start. Her plan with Taravangian also explicitly called for helping him control the Intent (making someone who can "bear this power with honor") and teaching him how to use it, which doesn't sound like she doesn't care and just wants it out, either. I do agree here. Maybe in the long term he'd consider it, or if she acted to stop his plans, but if he can have a friendly Vessel in his home base who is willing to teach him and help him improve his abilities and knowledge, I don't think he'll throw it away so quickly, especially when he's new to things and she is not. I don't know about Vivenna's Blade, but I did see someone else here point out something that originally I was skeptical of but that I've come around on because it fits so oddly well: Taravangian's moment of bravery. It's phrased remarkably similarly to the way the Intents of Ruin, Preservation, and Odium were displayed. Bravery, dying courage, glory of fighting to defend, the feeling of stepping off into the unknown.... those definitely sound like rather valorous concepts. And the moment is accompanied by him seeming to hear a voice right when he thought he failed that pointed out the opportunity, which could definitely just be an internal monologue, but with the other stuff... For reference, the description of Ruin: Preservation: Odium: It definitely feels like it fits the sort of pattern of these things, and just so happens to align neatly with the Intent of the one Shard that Harmony said seemed reasonable and wanted to speak with Hoid...
  16. theory

    I think Connection affecting other Realms is a bit different from specifically having Connection tying you to the Realm itself (Syl mentions if she goes too far from Kal, her Connection to the Physical Realm fades). That was my first thought, but the whole thing's weird enough I've given up on fully understanding it lol (Oh yeah, and it stops fabrials as well, iirc, which feels even weirder to me... it's all complicated.) That's fair. Lmao seriously yeah I'm not sure if I agree with this bit, but I could see the purpose (Intent, you might say) of the spren having some relevance to what they can do even beyond Surges, true. Yeah.... Bondsmiths do be scary. I don't know that I'd quite say the Tower was made around the heart as much as they, both being parts of the Sibling, were designed by Honor and Cultivation with both in mind to work together. Things like the Sibling manifesting as veins of metal and gem in the walls seem difficult to add in after the fact, but also I doubt they could stand on their own. That would be wild. Lmaoooo fair enough Then again, Ishar thinks he can "reset" it on his own... I think the Honorblades are capable of drawing through far more power than we tend to assume, though Honor probably used to keep them limited most of the time when he was alive to prevent Ashyn 2.0. But ultimately they are pieces of Honor himself that grant the bearer direct access to his essence (I think the wording was something like that), so I can see them getting pretty crazy. Though if Szeth thinks Abrasion is a Lashing... Side note, I love how the Windrunners using the Lashing terminology just comes from Kaladin overhearing Szeth mention the word in one of his insane rambles one time, lol. Hey if Lightweavers can have a gazillion passive effects so can Windrunners I think it's plausible that honorspren sort of being windspren influences the way the power can manifest, in addition to power levels. Just spitballing, though, and that doesn't answer everything either way.
  17. theory

    Reminds me of the stuff Syl and Kalak mention about having Connection to the Spiritual, Physical, and Cognitive Realms... Still not sure how that works when Connection is a Spiritual attribute but I guess it does That's a fair distinction, you're right. Fits more with the "unite" theme as well. Ah, good catch. There are people nearby that may have gems (Lopen's only got drained very shortly before), but I don't know that it'd be enough to account for such a large blast. Huh, honestly yeah that makes sense. The suppressor does... stuff, for sure, but I have no idea what the mechanism is. Off the top of my head you have to account for: Knocking Radiants unconscious/Fused when normal Making Stormlight work more slowly for healing/Voidlight when normal NOT blocking (near) 4th Ideal Radiants due to strength of bond (but iirc Kal does feel a pressure)/Unmade when normal (but only sometimes, other times the Sibling was strong enough to suppress them) Knocking Windrunners less unconscious than other orders NOT blocking Honorblades despite the bond there being extremely shallow NOT blocking Kaladin's Adhesion or Lift's Progression NOT having a noticeable effect on Lift besides Abrasion being gone iirc? Allows a Reverse Lashing to be pushed through because of the Adhesion involved, but it takes active effort Can be healed away for 10 hours but then comes back Makes it harder to summon the spren as a Blade, and Teft is only able to summon a barely-substantial one with extreme effort from both him and Phendorana I've not seen any theory yet that really accounts for it all. Eh, the Tower's fabrials are made of the Sibling manifesting themselves. Dalinar and Shallan have to both do things (even if they don't fully understand those things) to get it to work. Not really the same thing imo. That does get some, yeah, but several of those (such as the heating fabrial and attractors) are explicitly noted to be part of the Sibling, and I'd find it really weird if the Tower at first came without doors or elevators lol. Yeah I really need to as well, there's soooo much. I'd just been assuming the Sibling created them like the SF makes honorspren, but I suppose that's not certain. More I meant if the Sibling can create new spren of that power level and with whichever Surge they want that feels like it has Implications for either the flexibility of Bondsmith spren or the way spren are made, but I'm not really sure what those implications are, lmao. True enough lol Listen if Syl considers the Vessel of Honor a mere Bondsmith I give up xD The Stormfather does in Oathbringer say this bit, though: And Ash talks about it as well: So it does sound like Ishar actually made the Oathpact, which is... wild. Huh, weird. Reminds me of some weird phrasing from the deleted Jasnah scene someone on the Discord pointed out recently: Jasnah please why no why LASH and GRAVITATION aaaaaa
  18. theory

    Hmmm those are pretty interesting questions. I don't know that I have even theoretical answers to any of them, but it's something I'm definitely gonna be thinking on now.
  19. theory

    Huh, forgot all about bindspren. Weird. Wonder what's up there. I guess it depends how you treat the terminology, because a lot of the magics do work via that behind-the-scenes anyway (Gravitation, for example). I'd probably define it more in the vein of the way you do later in the post, a "Spiritual" use is one that solely affects the Spiritual, while a "Physical" one is one that affects the Physical. I do think they work via the same mechanic, however, just differing specifics. He probably vaguely knows about the concept as "that stuff Dalinar does and that Syl waxes on about sometimes", but I doubt he really understands it, yeah. That's fair. I agree in the broad scope, but don't quite agree with the specific terminology here. I think it all works via Connection, just in different ways. Not every bond of knowledge (as the SF talks about it) means the same thing, and not everything has the same meaning when shared. So Dalinar might make a Connection that is the "knowledge" that he uh definitely 100% totally grew up in Azir nope ignore that Alethkar line right there he's certainly Azish and so grew up speaking it, while Ishar makes the person and ground both "know" that they're one body and the person's actual body tries to share the Stormlight with the ground, and the Full Lashing does... something similar but not identical, etc. (Also, lol'd @ "Dalinar's Duolingo", Odium better hope he hasn't forgotten any of his Malwish lessons ) I think it might be plausible, depends on if it's pure Adhesion or involves Tension or is something else weird somehow. Though, if Ishar was specifically going to create the Oathpact I could see Tanny Boi giving his Blade admin rights but not the rest. But I'd lean towards either "yes" or "involves Tension", instead of the latter two options. Agreed, merely trying to think about what that means more. I'm actually curious whether it's really out of nowhere or not, because in most of the main cases I can find it described (Kaladin's Second and Third, and Lopen's Second), they actually drain all the spheres around them in one go, and in the other main one (Kaladin's Fourth) he's in the storm and might be drawing from there. So is it truly drawing from the Spiritual, or more something tied into the same thing as the Reverse Lashing and their "strength of squires" bit, with Gravitation and Adhesion doing wonky things and drawing alllll the nearby Light to them? That does make sense, I'm curious about that now. There's still that weird scene in tWoK where Shallan accidentally falls into Shadesmar after swearing an Ideal that then never happens again... It works for that distinction I guess, but it doesn't distinguish between, say, a Full Lashing and what Ishar does, or Dalinar using a language and Ishar stealing a Radiant bond, or whatever in Elithanathile is happening with the spren for Ishar's experiments. So I think narrow scope vs broad scope are better terms for the difference at hand (Windrunners vs Bondsmiths), instead of just trying to categorize it by where the most noticeable effect is. Tbf, Urithiru also has: Doors Heating Suppressor Pumps Elevators and in general just a lot of things, even including conjoined fabrials iirc. So I'm not sure that'll necessarily all fall under the Surges of Adhesion and Tension, as much as the Sibling being a super massive spren that's learned to use their Investiture more flexibly than most. (fwiw, Navani mentions the pressure fabrial is actually an incredibly complex network of attractors bringing in air.) (The Sibling is also referred to as "the parent" by the Oathgate spren, which is interesting but I have no idea the implications.) Navani also comes to the same conclusion for some reason, iirc even though Szeth is right there and can tell them it presumably doesn't match any of them in appearance... so admittedly that might just be a case of "doesn't seem to be a spren, maybe it's that"! But either way they are absurdly powerful from what Brandon's said, yeah. I do think that's most likely, yeah. I should note, by "honorspren come from windspren so they can do random wind stuff" I meant that perhaps it's something somewhat related to how the windspren can do wind things, as opposed to just something actually fully random, but I do still think it's less likely either way. Is this laid out and explained anywhere? I don't recall the exact mechanics being delved into but I might've just missed it. And apparently Szeth trained with all of the Surges, iirc, so this would mean even the Bondsmith Blade, because otherwise he'd be missing Tension from the list. That's a different thing from "this is the first time the Honorblades have been wielded since Honor's death", though. (But also yeah as Frustration mentions, Nale's been using his for a few centuries now.)
  20. @RSharaput together a proper spreadsheet about this, lol
  21. Not necessarily.
  22. Weekly Roundup time! Some fun things this week: there are two giveaways associated with Cytonic preorders! Also, we finally got that movie review Brandon mentioned a couple months back. But first, we've got the obligatory Defiant (Skyward 4) update: prewriting is at 33%. Not much else to say there. Also, in case you missed it, the US cover for ReDawn was revealed on Tuesday! Moving on to the main event, though: if you're looking to preorder Cytonic, there are two giveaways going on, depending on where you preorder it from. The first is a giveaway for anyone who lives in the US and preorders from ANY US retailer (be it Amazon, the Mini-Con, or a local bookstore; as long as they give you a receipt, it qualifies): If you enter the retailer and receipt number (as proof of purchase) into the form on Get Underlined's website, they'll send you an enameled pin (Brandon says Doomslug in the video, but the poster shows the M-Drone hugging a mushroom), and a link to virtually watch the Cytonic release party at the Dragonsteel Mini-Con on November 23rd from 7PM-9PM MDT. The second is a sweepstakes open to anyone who preorders from Barnes & Noble's website or applies via email (see below). One winner will receive: A leatherbound journal A signed copy of Cytonic A collection of some of Brandon's favorite books, including: Going Postal An Ember in the Ashes The Black Prism Uprooted The Promise of Blood The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms The Star Touched Queen Project Hail Mary A Darker Shade of Magic In addition, thanks to legal requirements in the United States, an alternative method of entry is available for those who don't want to purchase from Barnes & Noble: you can instead send an email to [email protected] titled "Entry Form Cytonic by Brandon Sanderson Sweepstakes", with your name, email address, and physical address. (Only one entry per person is allowed, and duplicates will be disqualified.) On the other hand, if you preordered from Barnes & Noble but want to opt-out, you can send an email to [email protected] with the subject "Cytonic by Brandon Sanderson Sweepstakes Opt Out". These events are not mutually exclusive: if you preorder from B&N, that order does qualify for both their sweepstakes and the Get Underlined giveaway, and emailing to enter B&N's contest does not prevent you from getting the pin and release event access. If you live outside the US, Team Dragonsteel is currently in talks with the UK publisher about other promotions, but we'll just have to wait and find out whether or not that comes to fruition and in what way. In other news, Brandon did a mostly spoiler-free review of Jungle Cruise. An aside: he actually mentioned he had made a film review (although had not revealed which movie) back in August, covered in our very first Weekly Update article—how time flies... And lastly, he announced that the Halloween livestream has been moved to October 30th, at 3PM MDT. Adam did actually put a note about this on the last Weekly Update video, so our previous Weekly Roundup article did mention the correct date, but if you were listening to the video without paying too much attention to the screen, you may have gotten the old schedule instead. As a reminder, the Halloween livestream will be Brandon and Emily opening fanmail all dressed up in-costume, to try and work through a lot of what has built up since the normal streams stopped having fanmail segments. No questions will be taken, except those sent in with said mail. Should you wish to watch Brandon's update video, it is of course on YouTube, and embedded below. Ordinarily, a transcript is eventually uploaded to Brandon's website by Brandon's assistant Adam, but his posts haven't been made for this one or last week's yet, so can't link to it here.
  23. Ah, I see. Huh yeah that's interesting. Likely after it took over, but since we don't actually know how the Evil spread we can't be super certain on the specifics. Most likely, yeah. From the sound of it, the Evil is really bad news.
  24. A problem? Worth noting that, according to Khriss, the Cognitive Realm representation of the Homeland is also really dangerous. Some people being able to access the CR is also different from being able to evacuate en mass—Khriss mentions that "there is no stable perpendicularity—only very unstable ones that cannot be predicted easily, and have a somewhat morbid origin." Yeah, was just curious about the "The same essay also mentions that Khrissalla did not get her information about pre evacuation magic in person" bit.
  25. theory

    That's why I drew the distinction I did–the powers aren't different abilities, imo. One seems to be a subset of the other, I feel. (With the exception of the Windrunners messing with the air, which seems completely unrelated to the Full Lashing mechanically, and which Dalinar cannot do, so who knows if that one is even pure Adhesion or is a combo Surge, or just an "honorspren come from windspren so they can do random wind stuff" thing, or what).