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  1. Let's not also forget that they used to be the police force of the radiants. They were the ones who the other orders considered to be just and fair enough to let enforce the roles. The Skybreakers were the ones entrusted with keeping the other orders in line.
  2. I agree with you, but I think the phrase would be better as: A person is only as good as their moral code. At the end of the day the Skybreakers are about picking something to give them a consistent moral code. Depending on what they swear to it can end up being great, or it can end up being awful. The problem I have with how you are phrasing this is that the same thing could be said of anyone. You are just as likely to find someone who has a skewed moral code as a Skybreaker who has sworn to bad code. At least with Skybreakers you have consistencyonsistancy. Where others will have to stop and try and figure out moral problems as they appear, a Skybreaker already knows where they stand and what is/isn't moral. I think sometimes we see the Skybreaker's unflinching dedication to their code as a weakness, when really it is their greatest strength. They have chosen a moral code and now follow it without doubt or question. They don't have moral dilemmas as their moral code is already written for them. Where a Windrunner would freeze and question their ideas of morality when faced with a family member or friend doing something immoral, a skybreaker would be confident in their code and be able to see it as wrong. What it really comes down to is whether or not they have sworn to a good code. As another side note, we don't often give enough credit to the idea that Skybreakers can swear to something besides the law. A Skybreaker could easily swear to something as simple as the Golden Rule. They could also swear to the tenets of a religion. Or they could swear to a specific moral code. They are about picking something and completely dedicating their lives to following it. While the law is an easy thing to pick, and I think often picked to copy Nale, it isn't the only, or in my opinion best, option available.
  3. I also think that an interesting question with Skybreakers is at what point they feel the need to push the rules of their code onto others. There are many things that I personally consider to be wrong, but that I also think people should be able to decide for themselves what to do. A good example of this is drug use. I think using drugs is morally wrong (I know some may disagree but that's not really the point) but I don't think it would be my place to go and stop someone or try to pass a law to not allow them to use drugs. There are other things, like murder or theft, that I would definitely try to stop and think there should be laws against. I think an interesting dilemma for a Skybreaker would be finding the delineation between their personal morals and the "law" that everyone should follow for society to exist. I think this dilemma is more likely to appear in SKybreakers who swear to something like a religion or libertarian code.
  4. If this has been said already I'm sorry. I've just been skimming through and there seems to be a point that isn't being talked about enough The Bridge man strategy isn't necessary to save lives. We clearly see that Dalinar's strategy results in far less casualties of soldiers and bridge men. Sadeas' approach simply means he gets richer. He's not trading the lives of criminals for the lives of the other soldiers, he's trading the lives of "criminals" for wealth. Even calling the bridge men criminals is a huge stretch. Not all of them committed crimes and the few that did didn't deserve the death penalty. Trading the lives of men, even if they are the most despicable murderers, simply to enrich yourself and increase your social standing is horrible. Also, don't tell me not to compare our morality to things in other worlds. Just because that society didn't realize it was immoral doesn't mean it wasn't. Now it may lift some of the blame from the individual because they didn't know better, but that doesn't even work here. Dalinar is constantly telling Sadeas that what he is doing is wrong. Sadeas just doesn't care about the lives of the bridgemen.
  5. You don't even need the bow. Just give them arrows or javelins and they can lash them in the direction they want to go. I mean, given enough stormlight, they can use even rocks as deadly projectiles.
  6. It might also be because Roshar has higher Oxygen concentration than most planets in the cosmere.
  7. theory

    I think it's possible, but just want to note that the poem gives no suggestion as to who did it. It only says that the fused didn't do it. On another note, it is suggested throughout the books that at one point the plains were symmetrical all the way around. This makes it very unlikely that the power that did it came from any point but the exact center
  8. I think most of the reasons this wouldn't work have been noted, but here's one more. If someone did try something like throwing sand in a shard bearer's eyes the most likely thing that will happen is a couple of seconds of them being blinded. During this time they can either retreat or home their gauntlet over their eye slit. Once they can see again their first order of business would be to hunt down and kill every soldier who assisted in that particular attack. This would set the research way back as new people would have to come up with the idea on their own and try to survive testing it
  9. Good point. I'm not sure if there is any evidence either way than. I would assume they could take multiple squires, but there is, as of yet, no actual evidence for or against this thought
  10. See, they like following rules, but they don't seem to care what the rules are. They simply push for some sort of rule system. I don't know if he's still allowed ardents, but after everything that's happened some might leave the ardentia to follow him. Nahel says that several of the Skybreakers have sworn to him so I think they could have multiple squires.
  11. Is that a rule of the spren or the order?
  12. Anybody else see the irony of a thread called "Enough with the Moash thing already" that seems to reappear every couple months?
  13. Even if they join for various reasons, the majority of the ardents are down to be very loyal, if not to the church than to their brightlord. The only one we ever here if doing anything against their brightlord is the one that speaks out against the queen. All the others are seen to be nearly perfect servants who do whatever their brightlord asks. Any person who can set aside their wants and follow either the their brightlord's wishes completely seems the perfect candidate for the Skybreakers. I could even see some leaving the ardentia and swearing an oath like szeth's to follow Dalinar's
  14. So I was thinking about Szeth and if he would have Squires. I was thinking of possible candidates and it hit me. Ardents would make perfect Skybreakers. They already dedicate their life to the almighty and/or their brightlord. I think it would be very easy for an ardent to take their oath of devotion as their third ideal. I could easily see Szeth picking up some of Dalinar's ardents, especially the weapons masters, as his squires.
  15. I think calling what Adolin did first degree murder is a stretch. I would consider it a rightful execution of a dangerous criminal. Now, I know that Adolin doesn't have any legal authority and it's bad for one person to be judge, jury, and executioner. The thing that makes it bad though is lack of evidence. The entire train for the big legal systems most countries have is to make sure no one is convicted of a come they didn't commit. This is why due process is so important. In this situation however, there is absolutely no question of guilt. Adolin witnessed Sadeus' previous crimes and Sadeus admitted to planning even worse things in the future. With that much evidence there's not a jury on Roshar, if they have them, that would say Sadeus isn't guilty.