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  1. This could also be due to the sprens relations to the shards (like Syl being an honorspren- a spren of honor). The spren "dying" because of broken oaths could be.... I guess the word would be "inherited" from the shards? And with how it looks like the spren can be reawakened, maybe that's a sign that shards can be reformed after being shatterd?
  2. So while this could be nothing, I was looking through some discussions about stormlight 4 and I started to connect some dots. While it is not confirmed, a lot of the fandom- and myself- believe Hesina, Kaladin's mother, to be originally from Kharbranth. If this is true, we known from the end of Oathbringer that all those who were born in Kharbranth and their spouses will be spared from Odium. We also know that Odium is bound by his word and so he must follow this deal he struck with Taravangian. While I've seen quite a few people saying this deal will end up being bad for Taravangian and that Odium ultimately got the better deal, I think this deal is what will bring about Odium's downfall, not Taravangian's. Now I should say this having any sort of possibility weighs heavily on Hesina being born in Kharbranth, but under the assumption that she is then this means that Lirin is spared by association. And yet, even with this deal potentially protecting him, much of the fanbase believes Lirin will die in Stormlight 4. This is where I think Odium trips himself up. If Lirin were to die as a result of Odium- so be singers, listeners, or corrupted spren- the deal between Odium and Taravangian will immediately become void. And while we don't necessarily know what happens when a shard's word is broken, it is my personal headcanon that a big part of the process for Honor being shattered was that he in some way broke his word. While obviously this has a lot holes in it, I just wanted to point it out as I've been seeing a lot of people talking about the Kharbranth deal and whether or not Lirin will die in the next book.
  3. I don't think so, as long as the people born and living in Kharbranth have children on Kharbranth soil Odium can't do anything to them because they would be born in Kharbranth. If Odium forces them out of Kharbranth however... then we have trouble since he just stated they will live and the city will stand, just not that the same people will be living there.
  4. My only problem with that line of thinking is that Brandon confirmed there is significance in the Stormfather referring to Kaladin as Son of Tanavast, and I feel like it wouldn't be that big of a deal for him to agree to that if it was just because of Kaladin being a Windrunner.
  5. My only question is, how would you bond it without anyone finding out? You have to carry the sword with everywhere with you when bonding it and you can't send it away like you could a bonded blade
  6. Oathbringer Spoilers Below! I was just thinking recently about how Adolin was able to murder Sadeas and get away with it without too much suspicion in Oathbringer and I found myself thinking: How would you get away with murder in Roshar? Specifically how would you get away Sadeas's murder in Roshar. Would you frame someone? Take Adolin's route and get involved with the investigation? Just curious to see what people have to say!
  7. I was thinking the same thing. And in that case, it's possible it wasn't surgebinding at all that destroyed Ashyn! (Bear with me, I'm new to the cosmere- all caught up in SA but just finished the first of Mistborn) Think about it, we know the listeners are native to Roshar, that they took the humans in as refugees, but we don't know exactly what else is native there. What if the spren that appear on Roshar are native or unique to Roshar and weren't present on Ashyn? Then it's a magic system independent to Ashyn that destroyed it, the humans magic.
  8. Oh, that's a good one! I'd never thought of Teft coming face-to-face with Ashertmarn, or about how sketchy the Envisagers story is- now I really hope we get that!
  9. Let me make sure I got this right: stormlight being drawn in by a person is able to heal them so drastically because it's trying to match the person's cognitive self to the spiritual self?? So Kaladin couldn't heal his brands because he had internalized them to the point that his spiritual self also possessed the brands, and therefore the stormlight wouldn't see them as something to heal, whereas when he was struck in the arm by Szeth's honorblade he was able to heal his arm because he hadn't thought of it as a part of himself? Or do I have this confused? If not, then to me it would make sense that there would be a difference in healing- with both an individual radiant healing and an edgedancer and truthwatcher healing others. Unless that radiant- let's say Renarin when talking about how Rsyn's legs couldn't be healed- could understand that person's spiritual self and see that there is a noticeable difference between that self and their cognitive self, it's understandable that their stormlight wouldn't be effective in healing them. The time restriction would make sense as a recent wound- such as a someone being stabbed out of nowhere- wouldn't have the same effect on their spiritual self as someone being injured or chronically ill for a majority of their life- their spiritual self would ultimately come to reflect that. I suppose it comes down to how much the person accepts their injury as a part of themselves, which is why a person taking in stormlight is a much more effective way of healing.
  10. While I definitely agree, I just find Kaladin mentioning him among Roshone and Amaram- the (at the time) biggest onscreen reasons for Kaladin's hatred towards lighteyes- to mean he added something to his story. It also seems odd to me that he hasn't been mentioned since, almost as if we were supposed to forget about him.
  11. Something I just quickly wanted to bring to light: after three, gigantic books that have spent time focusing on him, we still don't know the entire story of why Kaladin distrusts lighteyes so much. While we definitely see his resentment beginning to dampen, the main causes are not all fleshed out yet. While the obvious ones (Roshone and Amaram) have been addressed, and their arc in his storyline almost, if not completely, done with, that still leaves ones example of betrayal in Kaladin's past that is unaccounted for. And that's where Katarotam comes in. If you don't remember that name, I can't blame you in the slightest as I forgot it myself since it was mentioned only one time in the entire series thus far. From The Way of Kings; Chapter 4, pg. 82: "Under previous masters, he'd demanded his wages be given to him. They had always found ways to cheat him- charging for his housing, his food. That's how lighteyes were. Roshone, Amaram, Katarotam . . . Each lighteyes Kaladin had known, whether as a slave or a free man, had shown himself to be corrupt to the core, for all his outward poise and beauty. They were like rotting corpses clothed in beautiful silk." However, even with this being his only mention the reader can see the obvious mark this man, Katarotam, left on Kaladin. This raises the question: Who was Katarotam, and what did he do? While from the text and timeline it's obvious to tell that Katarotam came into Kaladin's life during his enslavement, there is no way to tell the specifics of that as Kaladin said himself that he's, "changed hands a half-dozen times" (pg. 76) since his enslavement. Though with Kaladin choosing Katarotam to be among the men who has hurt Kaladin the most, we can assume that he had left a big impression and I therefore have three possible reasons for this: 1.) Katarotam was the first master to be over Kaladin. This would make sense as he would inevitable leave a lasting impression on Kaladin, and could even explain how he would manage to betray him. With Kaladin going from 'youngest squad leader in Amaram's army' to 'disgrace slave' in just one day, it would make sense that he wouldn't really know what to do with himself at first. And with no experience in surviving or even living the life of a slave, Kaladin would have no way of knowing what the average life of a slave would be. With that opening, he may have seen Katarotam as he once did Amaram: a man who cared for those under him. Perhaps Kaladin thought he got lucky and ended up with a master who was lenient, but later proved himself to be brutal? 2.) Katarotam was one of the most brutal masters This is one of the more simple reasons: Kaladin had suffered the worst of his times as a slave under Katarotam. This could still go in a number of ways though- with Katarotam being brutal because he was a horrible man, plain and simple, or being brutal specifically to Kaladin because he had heard of his escape attempts and wished to break him, or perhaps he noticed that Kaladin (a tall, well-built, natural leader) would ultimately bring hope to the other slaves and decided to use him as an example. While I'd say this is plausible, I don't think it's very likely as this leaves no room for betrayal, no room for Katarotam to hide himself behind poise and beauty as Kaladin specifically mentioned in the text. While those examples may refer specifically to Roshone and Amaram (though I don't see how it fits to Roshone seeing as he had it out for Kaladin's family at the beginning) the pause between the mention of Katarotam and the descritpors leads me to believe that most of it was inspired by Katarotam himself. 3.) Katarotam was the one to give Kalain the shash brand This is the most likely of the possibilities to me as the pain of the branding and the long term consequences it would have on his life would definitely be enough of a reason for Katarotam to be up with Roshone and Amaram. Not to mention the branding takes place just shortly before Kaladin's perspective starts in the first book, with his last master making the decision to brand him 'dangerous.' Not only does it make it recent, life changing, and painful, but it also opens Kaladin up to betrayal. This is where the reasoning would spread out a bit, with a number of possibilities being present to why Kaladin would consider Katarotam to be a prime example of how lighteyes are always different from how they prevent themselves. One reason could be referred back to reason 1, Katarotam had somehow convinced Kaladin that he cared for his slaves. Though this seems a bit flimsy to me, it could also be a good reason for how Kaladin can't even bring himself to fully trust low-ranking lighteyes. Another reason could be that Katarotam used bribery to earn loyalty from his slaves, promising them extra pay or even a chance at freedom if they do their work just right. This could to Kaladin to discovering he's a fraud, ultimately leading to the branding. These are just my thoughts, obviously we have very little to go off as he's only mentioned in one chapter but I do believe Katarotam will make an appearance in the form of a flashback in the next book (Slight Spoiler) - much like it did with Tarah- by that I mean her rarely being mentioned until we eventually met her in Oathbringer.
  12. I don't draw full body people often, so I'm not really sure how I feel about this drawing- but I would definitely say that I'm proud of the way it turned out. This is Jezrien from the Stormlight Archive in his prime and I just decided to give it my best shot! :D

    This is the first time I've tried posting a picture on 17th Shard, so please let me know if something's wrong!

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    1. Firebolt-101

      Firebolt-101

      Okay, so I can see that the picture is sideways... and I don't know how to fix that, it was correct when I posted it...

    2. Lunamor

      Lunamor

      That looks amazing! I don’t know how you could fix the picture being sideways, but if you want more people to see it you could post it in an Album.

  13. I am happy to say that I have, as of today, finished the first book in the Mistborn series!! I was originally introduced to Sanderson's work through SA, as many are, but I am so excited to read his other works and gain a better understanding of the Cosmere! So far I'm completely caught up the main storyline of SA (I haven't read Warbreaker yet), Skyward, and I can now add Mistborn. Sadly, I don't have the other Mistborn books yet- the one I did get was a gift for my recent graduation- but I plan to start the next book as soon as possible.

    However, I can now say I understand why the wiki for 17th shard is called Coppermind... I didn't know before and I was too afraid to ask.

  14. Very true, I'm still flabergasted that they would have let Sadeas get away with leaving Adolin and Dalinar But on that note I am interested to know what's considered too far for the Alethi....
  15. I honestly hope no one in Bridge 4 dies, but it's become such a big symbol and group that I don't see anyone NOT dying, sadly. I personal don't think it'll have anything to do with the 4th ideal, I think that'll tie in more with Kaladin's parents, but I do think Kaladin would be there in the even that one of them dies
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