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  1. You are all correct that many explainations could be provided to explain these. But, in my opinion, the evidence you have provided is not satisfactory. These require some further comment. In particular, we do know that ReLuur’s memories would not have returned completely. It has been stated multiple times that the Kandra sustain permanent damage the longer their spike has been pulled.
  2. I thought it would be useful to gather a list of potential plot holes in the Cosmere, in the same spirit as the typo threads. Here are the questions that I have. What have you all noticed? To clarify, I mean problems in character motivations and plot, not physics or magic. The Way of Kings Why did Dalinar’s visions not reveal that the Voidbringers are Parshmen? With the amount of visions Dalinar saw of the desolations, what are the odds none of them showed that the voidbringers were Parshmen? The only explanation I can think of is that Honor wished to conceal this fact. But, why would he want this? And surely this would become obvious when the Desolation actually started. Why did Honor not create an avatar to answer Dalinar’s questions? Yes, I know it is theorised in Oathbringer that perhaps he could not create a simulacrum of himself. But he could have made an incomplete model like the others in the visions, with at least enough knowledge to explain what the desolations were. He should have known the Stormfather would hardly be forthcoming. Mistborn: The Final Empire Why did Vin not disguise herself when breaking into the Lord Ruler’s palace the first time? This risked her cover, and they were lucky that the only survivors who saw them were the Inquisitors, who did not generally mix with the nobles. Bands of Morning Why did MeLaan not mention ReLuur’s spike when the team considers what to do? This is not so serious, but I thought it was very odd that MeLaan, and none of the others, mentions the spike when they are on the ship and debating whether to go to the temple or back for help. ReLuur was losing his memories, and while the potential loss of the Bands would have been devastating enough to convince them to go forward, this is a serious consequence of their actions, and their original mission.
  3. I hope at the very least there is no Shalladin. He killed her brother! It is incredibly disturbing.
  4. 2. You’re probably right. I don’t think actually making the sword out of Atium would help, but there should be a way to make a sword that sees the future, if only because there are plenty of people in the Cosmere who can do it. 3. There would likely be some effect, though I doubt it would be all that great with the Awakening in place. But I think the sword would be largely his own sword.
  5. I do not believe stamping yourself first would help. Forgery only affects a single object/person. It wouldn’t change reality to make other forgeries more plausible.
  6. I would Forge myself to be a better Forger, obviously. I’m surprised it isn’t a standard practice for the forgers already, since it is clearly possible to gain new skills. I agree Shai is already probably at her peak power...
  7. I do know Nightblood is not completely of Endowment, but I have to disagree that this is affecting him. Even if Nightblood were completely of Ruin, which I know is not the case, he would not be greatly influenced by this. Each person on Nalthis has a Breath, and probably entire soul, of Endowment, but they appear pretty normal. Take also for example the Unmade, which are splinters of Odium. They are not unduly hateful, or even passionate. Sja-anat does not appear consumed by hatred at all. I think the command would essentially overwrite whatever the intent of the Investiture once was in any case. Awakened creations can do whatever their creator desires, regardless of Endowment's intent in the Breaths.
  8. I doubt this would happen. Sanderson would never write it, and besides much of their romance is based on the fact that Adolin knows who the real Shallan is, grounding her. This would be a step in the other direction.
  9. 1. Numerous WoBs (quotes from Sanderson) state that it is possible, but very difficult, to Awaken Invested objects, even ones made of metal, like Hemalugic spikes or Shardplate. So, probably. 2. Probably not. An Allomancer would likely be needed to burn the metal of the sword. And doing so would use up the sword's mass. 3. It would probably have its own personality. Nightblood's soul is (probably) made entirely out of Endowment, but he isn't affected by it. 4. I suppose one could give these commands to the blade, but the sword couldn't surgebind without a bond to a spren, if that is what you're thinking. Perhaps this would make it a good candidate for a bond with an Honorspren? But if it is like Nightblood, absorbing Investiture, it would destroy any spren attempting to bond with it I'm guessing. 5. If it can't be Awakened, it would be as effective as any other blade, perhaps less, because Atium is a soft metal. 6. I'm not completely certain, but it would probably be allomantically inert. It is not a usual metal. Perhaps, though, a mistborn could burn it for some effect. Good question.
  10. I was joking about Warrior of Fire. It does not make sense. I’m surprised that Warbreaker’s title has no relevance to the book. I had assumed it would be Vasher’s name. It is interesting the books are split in two like that, and the unusual title of the Era 2 mistborn books! These sound like random changes done for someone’s amusement. So, has anybody read another translation?
  11. Perhaps it is a metaphor. But I believe it is too suspicious that the name is that of a Shardic intent Sazed could very well possess. What do you all think Discord would desire? Would be seek to foster dynamic change, which the forces of Ruin and Preservation oppose each other as much as possible in society? Or would he be something like Nightblood, seeking to fight against “evil”, Ruining things selectively and violently, while Preserving others?
  12. You're right that taken as unrelated statements, the first two sentences probably refer to the Terris people during Era 1. But the last line is out of place.
  13. Who here sympathized with the Pahn Kahl more than Hallandren and Idris? I agree it was good that a Manywar was prevented, and Bluefingers was evil. But the Pahn Kahl were a subjugated people, and they shall remain oppressed so long as Hallandren exists.
  14. What do you all think were the most epic failures that nearly happened in the cosmere? Here is my favourite: Oathbringer: Szeth: Perhaps I have merely chosen the wrong men. I know what I will do. I shall swear my loyalty to Dalinar Kholin! Dalinar: Good to have you Szeth. You serve Odium now. Szeth: !!!!!!!!!
  15. I do not think that the Terris prophecies have been fulfilled. These one in particular: Sanderson has confirmed it would be possible for the intent of Harmony to become discord. This prophecy, provided it was correctly divined and not corrupted, seems to indicate this will happen. Also, it seems that Discord is still a benevolent intent. Additionally, I do not believe the other parts of the prophecy have yet occurred. He shall defend their ways, yet shall violate them: Arguably he defended the ways of the old religions, and he made no effort to keep their ways. But, the quote implies that these same people shall call him heretic and love him, which can hardly be said of the long-dead religions. He shall be their saviour, yet they shall call him heretic: Sazed saved all of humanity on Scadrial, but why would they call him heretic? They now consider him their god. Does anyone know more information about these?