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  1. This is exactly why I had never considered it before, but I thought I heard a WOB somewhere that said a squire of one order could actually bond a spren of a different order and switch. I'll have to look it up. Found it. Storm Cellar Do squires always bond the spren of their Knight's order? Or can they attract a different type of spren? Also, was it normal for someone to serve their whole life as a squire? Brandon Sanderson They can attract a different spren. It was indeed normal, depending on the order and the person. Miscellaneous 2018 (Oct. 14, 2018) I so want to see this!!!!
  2. @Wyndlerunner I'm totally down with with that. I don't know enough about Willshapers.
  3. After reading Rock's chapter again, I'm starting to think he might end up being a Lightweaver rather than a Windrunner. He is a culinary artist and he seems to have the same effect on other people that Shallan and Tien have/had. Bridge Four will become a mixed-order unit.
  4. Vacuum/clean the floor... Windrunner-sticks all of the furniture to the walls and ceiling first then puts a reverse lashing on the vacuum to pull in the dirt (only it starts to pull in other stuff too) Skybreaker-reads the vacuum instruction manual then follows it to the letter. Dustbringer-blows up the house so the floor won't need to be vacuumed. Edgedancer-simply heals the floor to its clean spiritual ideal. Truthwatcher-foresees all the kids running across the floor in muddy shoes, so just leaves it as is. Lightweaver-Lightweaves a clean floor. Who has time for vacuuming anyway? Elscaller-Transports all the dirt into Shadesmar or Soulcasts it to air. Willshaper-the floor needs to be vacuumed? Stoneward-loosens the molecular bonds of the floorboards just enough to let the dirt fall through and then re-solidifies them. Bondsmith-helps the Windrunner stick the furniture to the walls and ceiling then fine tunes his lashings to pull only the dirt into the vacuum. Can some Knights Radiant come and clean my house please?
  5. @TheGirlWhoLookedUp I think I might name it Stormstrider after the giant spren in the highstorm. @Numuhuku Nice! The Ryshadium are definitely gigantic, however I do think that their "spren bond"(for lack of a better term) is as much responsible for their ability to carry a person in shardplate as their size. I like the idea of the Friesian look scaled up 120% or so.
  6. I just finished listening to Rock's chapter in OB and noticed some things I hadn't picked up on before. This is mostly because a Shardcast I watched talked about human parshendi hybrids and that horneaters were one example of those. All of a sudden things in this chapter (and elsewhere) made sense. The Horneaters' Singer heritage is why they can see into the cognitive realm. Rock mentions being closer to the cognitive realm and being able to see spren in their entirety, not just the part that appears in the physical realm. He also mentions, when it is quiet and he focuses, that he can faintly hear the rhythms (he calls it something else, but it's obvious it's the rhythms). This has made me wonder about some of the other mixed race humans on Roshar and what unique traits they might have (besides hard fingernails and teeth). Any thoughts? The the ones I can think of are Horneaters (Singer blood), Herdazians (Singer blood), Rirans (Iriali blood), and Nataans (Amian blood). Are there any others?
  7. My pictures didn't post. Hee they are.
  8. Friesian horses are are how I picture Ryshadium when I read the books. ( pictures below)
  9. pancakes

    Those look GOOD!!!!
  10. I’ve been scouring the Coppermind and agree with your idea here. A few things jumped out at me to go along with it.... The first is regarding the formation of the Nahel bond itself. In the Song of Spren it says: “The spren betrayed us, it's often felt. Our minds are too close to their realm That gives us our forms, but more is then Demanded by the smartest spren, We can't provide what the humans lend, Though broth are we, their meat is men.” To me this implies that the humans’ strong Connection to the physical realm is why the the Nahel bond is possible with them in a way not possible with the Singers. “Shadesmar is the natural habitat of the spren, and is where their true form can be seen.” (Coppermind) They are fully Connected to the Cognitive and, in their natural state, appear to have only a cognitive aspect and a spiritual aspect. The “smartest spren” have such a strong Connection in Shadesmar that they have become sapient and able to interact with their world as humans do in the physical realm. I read somewhere that it is a person’s Connection to their world that enables them to understand it and function within it in a meaningful may. We see Dalinar’s Bondsmith ability manipulate Connection so he can understand other languages and the Parshmen’s Connection to their local land/people causing them to act as if they were alway from that place when their minds were returned. This Connection is what enables the “mind” to exist. I’m guessing, that when a Nahel bond is formed, this Connection, though the bond, is transferred from the cognitive to the physical realm. Both Syl and Pattern mention that the transition to the physical realm was very difficult. They enter it is a cognitive being that can now interact with the physical realm, but as a baby that has to learn and grow. Because their Connection moved out of the cognitive realm, they lost all of their memories and understanding associated with it. These are still part of their Identity, however so they would slowly regain them as they grew in their Connection and understanding of the physical realm through the Nahel bond. My personal thought is that if the bond was severed at this time, the spren would “die” in the sense that it would revert to it’s “baby” form forever in the physical realm where it's Connection now primarily resides. It would no longer exist as a sapient being in either realm. They have slowly been regaining some Connection to the cognitive as their memories return, but not enough to return there as a sapient being. When the Spren’s Connection to the Physical realm has developed enough through the progression of oaths, they will gain a physical aspect and manifest as a Shardblade. The spren now, for the first time, has 3 aspects: Cognitive (their natural state with some Connection to Shadesmar regained), Physical (the Shardblade), and Spiritual (Connection, Identity, etc.). They have essentially become a totally new kind of spren. This brings us to the second part, what happens when the Radiant breaks his oath. Well, if (emphasize “if”) the above is correct, then, @Calderis, your “ripping out of the mind” makes total sense because the Connection gained through the Radiant that enabled the spren to gain sapience in the physical realm would be ripped away leaving them mindless. The Connection part of their spiritweb would be in tatters causing them to “shatter,” in a way into their three aspects. Their physical aspect would become a Shardblade (because of it’s Identity), stuck in the physical realm by whatever remnants of Connection are left to it, but essentially dead because there is no longer a mind or anything with it. The cognitive aspect would become a deadeye in Shadesmar due to a remnant of Connection that it had regained there, but not enough to truly exist there. It maintains a similar appearance to its original form there because of Identity. And finally, the tattered remnants of the spiritweb gives each of the other aspects it’s Identity and somehow manages to keep them just enough Connected that the cognitive aspect can find its physical aspect’s correlating location in the physical realm.The later discovery of adding a gemstone strengthened that Connection just enough to enable the blade to transport to the cognitive realm when not in use. The 10 heartbeats is the time to Connect and make the transition back to the physical realm when summoned. Lastly, to heal a deadeye, having the original Radiant would be ideal because he has the “exact” missing piece of the puzzle. However, since that isn’t possible, here is my best guess. First, a couple of quotes from the Coppermind: “A female Stoneward possessed what appears to be a fabrial constructed from a large topaz and heliodor that was able to "regrow" and repair injuries.[16] It manipulated the Surge of Growth.” “The Surgebinder can even reverse death with Regrowth; a body that has bled out or a soul that has been severed with a Shardblade can be healed with Regrowth and continue to function as if it has never been damaged.[38] However, once the soul leaves the body and reaches the afterlife, it is impossible for the Surgebinder to revive the person.[40]” “Gold healing works by aligning an individual's Physical aspect to their ideal self as recorded in their Spiritual aspect. This does not prevent them from aging or certain genetic diseases as those are considered part of the ideal.[6]” “Damage to the soul, such as that caused by Hemalurgy, can be healed by Bloodmakers.[9] A Bloodmaker would also be able to heal a wound from a Shardblade,[10] or being withered by a shade.[11]” My thinking is that either a Lightweaver, Truthwatcher, or fabrial like the one in the above quote, possibly with a gold framework, along with a Bondsmith, the deadeye, and the person who will form the new Nahel Bond. The first to use progression Regrowth to heal the tattered spiritweb of the deadeye to its original ideal stored in Identity and the Bondsmith to aid that healing in such a way that it reunites the three aspects and enables the new Nahel Bond with the new future Radiant. Ok, I quit now.
  11. So Kaladin didn’t actually “do” anything to revive her other than return to his oath. She revived, had a yelling match with the Stormfather, and then returned to Kaladin and got him to say his second oath. Am I getting that right? If this is the case, then it seems that all a person would have to do to revive a deadeye is speak the oaths to create a new connection(they would, of course, have to know that their blade was actually a spren and which kind it was so they could speak the proper oaths). I thought there was a WoB, though, that said it was way more complicated than this and nearly impossible without the original Radiant that broke the oath. When a spren transitions into the physical realm to bond a Radiant, how much is left in the cognitive? When Syl is with Kaladin flitting around and sitting on his shoulder, is she still partially in the cognitive? I mean, if I were in the cognitive and near Kaladin, would I see his flame and some sort of Syl-ish thing close by it or a whole, fully cognizant Syl that I could talk to? Is what Kaladin sees as Syl in the physical realm just a small part like other spren or is Syl actually now in the physical realm? Is she only fully in the physical when she manifests as a blade? I guess what I'm trying to wrap my head around is why deadeyes even exist in the cognitive. If manifesting as a blade puts them entirely in the physical, where does the deadeye in the cognitive come from? Were they partially in the cognitive when the recreance happened so they were basically ripped in half leaving a mindless deadeye in the cognitive and a magical blade in the physical? This whole thing is confusing. Thanks for the WoB about imitating honorblades. That was helpful.
  12. @Calderis So do you think that Syl became a deadeye when Kaladin agreed to help kill Elhokar and was then easily revived because he was her original bonded Radiant? Or was she not fully dead because he didn’t intentionally break his oaths but was just confused about what was the right thing to do? Is intention necessary to truly break an oath? It seems like it would be or radiants could have accidentally killed their spren. Also, why blades? It seems like there should be shardspears, shard halberds, sharddaggers, etc. as well since the spren could manifest in any form their Radiant wanted. Why did the spren all specifically manifest as swords at the recreance? Was that also an intention of the Radiants or does it have something to do with whatever was ripped out of the spren when it “died?”
  13. “Just a note...I the the Storm Father’s visions were completely unrelated to a nahel bond. Dalinar didn’t bond the Stormfather until well after he can completed the entire vision cycle. Gavilar didn’t have to have bonded the Stormfather. I think he randomly sent visions to a few people to see what would happen. When Dalinar spoke the oaths in WoR, the Stormfather’s response seems like he had not allowed himself to be bonded since the recreance. Just my personal opinion. Here is the scene: “Dalinar looked to the sky again. “I have been commanded to refound the Knights Radiant. I will need to join their number if I am to lead them.” Distant thunder rumbled in the sky, though there were no clouds. “Life before death!” Dalinar shouted. “Strength before weakness! Journey before destination!” I AM THE SLIVER OF THE ALMIGHTY HIMSELF ! the voice said, sounding angry. I AM THE S TORMFATHER. I WILL NOT LET MYSELF BE BOUND IN SUCH A WAY AS TO KILL ME ! “I need you,” Dalinar said. “Despite what you did. The bridgeman spoke of oaths given, and of each order of knights being different. The First Ideal is the same. After that, each order is unique, requiring different Words.” The thunder rumbled. It sounded . . . like a challenge. Could Dalinar interpret thunder now? This was a dangerous gambit. He confronted something primal, something unknowable. Something that had actively tried to murder him and his entire army. “Fortunately,” Dalinar said, “I know the second oath I am to make. I don’t need to be told it. I will unite instead of divide, Stormfather. I will bring men together.” The thunder silenced. Dalinar stood alone, staring at the sky, waiting. V ERY WELL , the Stormfather finally said. T HESE W ORDS ARE A CCEPTED. Dalinar smiled. I WILL NOT BE A SIMPLE SWORD TO YOU , the Stormfather warned. I WILL NOT COME AS YOU CALL, AND YOU WILL HAVE TO DIVEST YOURSELF OF THAT . . . MONSTROSITY THAT YOU CARRY. Y OU WILL BE A R ADIANT WITH NO S HARDS.” Now that I said this, there’s probably a WoB somewhere that says Gavilar bonded the Stormfather...you all said that as if was cold, hard fact.
  14. There is a curious similarity between the Nightform stanza of the song of secrets and Renarin's (alleged) voidbinding version of illumination. “Nightform predicting what will be, The form of shadows, mind to forsee. As the gods did leave, the nightform whispered. A new storm will come, someday to break. A new storm a new world to make. A new storm a new path to take, the nightform listens.” —17th stanza All of Renarin’s WoR visions were “predicting what will be,” specifically about the “new storm” that will come. The singers in Nightform “listen” because that’s what they do by nature listening to the rhythms and such. While humans can’t take forms, could the voidbond (for lack of a better term) manifest differently in them resulting in the ability to “see” as Renarin says? Is it possible that some of the forms of power involve voidbinding in some way and these manifest a little different in humans since their spren bond is different? One of the forms of power is said to mimic surges. “Smokeform for hiding and slipping 'tween men.A form of power—like Surges of sprenDo we dare to wear this form again? It spies.Crafted of gods, this form we fear.By Unmade touch its curse to bear,Formed from shadow—and death is near. It lies”
  15. @Argent Thanks. Man, I was really hoping it was some obscure line about voidbinding that I had missed. Trying to research this raises more questions than answers. You have insightful comments on Shardcast, btw. I've learned a lot watching those.