Alicila

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  1. You guys make good arguments and I'm kinda touched to see so many replying to my first post. One more question though: Why didn't the Heralds instruct humans to genocide? Especially after the Last Desolation, the Heralds obviously know Talenel will break someday, yet no Herald have made a noticeable effort in eliminating parshmen. I know Nale was insane and that, but it is still incomprehensible that he thought killing Radiants, instead of parshmen, will do good to humanity.
  2. Radiants didn't always existed and were a "new invention". At first, humans fought with stones and still won. (Raboniel mentioned that) By the time Radiants were organized and made Urithiru their headquarters and all that, I would think humans could won with relative ease? (Also I don't get why you think Radiants don't exist between Desolations. Old Radiants dying means that new Radiants get their spren. The Knights lasted until the Recreance.) Yeah that's probaly the most likely reason. But it was still strange that the Heralds didn't at least try to tell the humans to wipe out singers. They were insane, abandoning the Oathpact without much hesitation, but were noble enough to think genocide is immoral?
  3. Try to remain on topic though. Regardless of what animal singers may have utilized, it won't change the fact that humans defeated them each time. This doesn't offset the power balance between humans and singers.
  4. This is an interesting line of thought. But I think that such species, if truly that important, would have more mentioning. The simplest answer would be that it's blood of a native animal. Edit: Cremlings do have purple blood. https://coppermind.net/wiki/Cremling
  5. Humans and ten Heralds can defeat the singer with perhaps hundreds or more Fused and thousands or more forms of Power. I think even without the Heralds, humans can handle singers without Fused and forms of power just fine. The singers' army structure would have to adapt greatly without forms of power, but human's army won't be affected.
  6. (I have searched a while and not seen questions same as this. There's theories about future genocide possibilities but I'm talking about the past. )(Try to talk using in-world moralities. I know genocide is bad in our values, this is just for discussion's sake.) So, between the normal Desolations, a discussion between human villager A,B may go like this. A: "Aren't those singers the ones that will become Voidbringers every time?" B:"Yeah." A:"And we are sitting around, waiting them to become magical warriors and shoot lightening at us, and then we fight back?" B:"Yeah." A:"I got a brilliant idea. Why not kill all those singers BERORE they can become Voidbringers?" B:"Yeah that's a great idea! Why haven't anyone thought of it?" I understand the Knight Radiants may be above genocide, but it is highly plausible for the normal politicians to conceive something like this. Humans are very capable of committing genocide even on humans, and after about 2500 years of war with a complete different species, it was very weird that no one has done this already. Especially the Heralds, who were getting insane and were immensely tired of the war. The Heralds could just left an instruction for the Vorin church to wipe out the Voidbringers each time they left, and these orders are unlikely to be doubted. Not sure how Knights Radiant would respond to this sort of command though. Some might argue that human society was too broken after Desolations that they couldn't pursue the singers. But the singers are supposed to be even more broken, so it makes no sense to wait for both sides to rebuild, than clash again without an end. One possibility is that humans and singers lived far enough that they couldn't meet each other. Or if the Knights Radiant put efforts to stop the genocide that would be the end of the story, but still there were long times when there was no Radiant. Same could probably go for singers to humans, but they were defeated each time so they haven't got any chance. Except for Raboniel's bioweapon, which I think is a very rational respond to the war. (Makes me think of Attack on Titan and The Dark Forest, but that's off topic.) Edit: summarize some good points made by the discussion below Population was dispersed, societies were broken and without Knights Radiant(Blades, Plates, Soulcasters), it's hard to wage wars of such scale. Likely all three Shards wouldn't like the idea of genocide and would have intervened. There likely were failed attempts. Why didn't the Heralds instruct humans to genocide is unexplained. (Especially after the Last Desolation)
  7. I think Taravangian is going to become the ultimate boss. He is way more crafty than Rayse and it is not possible to resist a Shard's intent for long. Taravangian's morality (or lack of it, as some may call it) and craftyness combined with Odium's Intent and Power is extremely dangerous. I'm not sure why Cultivation did this but she should have good reasons. It is obvious that Cultivation is the pro gamer here and she has planned for Taravangian's Ascension. She killed Rayse by touching like three people only. (There's probably a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff, but still) I think they will manipulate each other but killig each other? Very unlikely. p.s. I do like Taravangian's personality, but that's a matter of personal preference and beside the point.
  8. There's a thing that bothers me is that the content pages "Savant" and "Babsk" belongs to the category "terminology". This is odd because "Terminology" is a subcategory of disambiguation pages and should only include redirects. But since a lot of content pages can belong to terminology, too, it would be nice to find a separate place for these non-disambiguating terminology pages. My suggestion is to change the current "terminology" into "teminology redirects" and put the content pages in a separate category "terminology". This is Joe ST on that. However, I realized that there might be too many pages that can fit into the category Terminology, like Allomancy, Investiture, Lifeless, etc. Perhaps the efforts to put all these pages into a category will not be so useful? Please leave some thoughts on this.
  9. The different types of infobox templates( {{location}} {{magic}} {{character}} etc. ) should mean different things, but they look exactly the same if you don't open the edit page. These types give the reader a basic idea of what the article is about, and helps the reader to understand faster. Is there a way to directly show the name of the template?
  10. All the annotation ref for Warbreaker {{annotation ref|wb|1}} is broken and can only lead to the homepage of Brandon's website. (see coppermind page "BioCromatic Breath" ref [2] for example) Is is the annotation ref template that needs to be fixed?
  11. The page Leras states that the bargain between Ruin and Preservation is that Preservation gets Scadrial and Ruin gets to destroy it. But I thought anything other than humans on Scadrial is neutral, neither of Ruin nor of Preservation, so the bargain should only include humans. Can someone familiar with this area help write it?
  12. I have read almost every work of Brandon, except the newer ones. Cosmere from Elantris to SA2, along with the short stories. (I like emperor's soul a lot!) Other works are Alcatraz, Reckoners, Rithmatist, Legion1,2. I am very fascinated by the vast and enormous stuffs, such as the Three Body Problem, so I loved the concept of the Cosmere very much. I would really like to see the rise and end of this incredible story.
  13. All three books in the series of Remembrance of the Earth's Past are greatness. If you think the first is expanding your mind, the sequels will let you see through the time and space of the entire universe.
  14. Hi, I'm [[User:Alicila]], and I've been quite active on the Coppermind recently. I think I would get around a bit, to know more about Brandon's great works. By the way, the best fiction I've ever read is the Three Body Problem. Such beauty is truly unseen anywhere else.