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  1. While this speculation would require more examples of Autonomous invested arts, I have to wonder if its possible that Scadrial is developing as fast as they are because they don't have any society changing magics. Allow me to explain; most of the magic on Scadrial is personally empowering, but doesn't transform the way of life of those around the Invested (yet). Compare this to places like Sel, Nalthis, or Roshar where the presence of magic changes the very early history of technological development. We've barely seen what Sellish magics are capable of, yet Elantrians can make virtually any resource from any other. They can heal nearly any injury. Agricultural and medical research is to stagnate as a result. Similarly, on Nalthis, better health can be purchased or inherited. Yeah, most people have only one Breath, but the fact you can theoretically buy better health is going to discourage (though by no means stop) medical innovation. Beyond that, Awakening has an absurd amount of military innovation, which, regardless of what you think of military operations, sends it down a different path from the technological development of military technologies. In real world history, military developments have been essential to the discovery of civilian applications, and I can only imagine it would be similar on other worlds. Meanwhile, on Roshar, they have almost no incentive to develop technologically, because stromlight and spren will focus them almost exclusively on fabrial, rather than technological, innovation. Understanding of the mundane sciences on Roshar are almost guaranteed to lag behind understanding of magical sciences. Meanwhile, on Scardrial, and possibly some of Autonomy's many planets, there aren't really magical shortcuts to technology. This is going to change fairly soon on Scadrial, as Ettmetal and medallions allow for the mechanization of the metallic arts, but that's only after they've already gotten a substantial head-start on understanding the workings, and more importantly the value, of mundane science and technology. Many planets in the Cosmere might not even see a need for dedicated scientific research since they have magic to provide faster and more reliable solutions for many of their problems. But Scadrian magical knowledge is developing alongside their mundane knowledge, allowing the two to compliment one another rather than magic overshadowing science. This idea is essentially Sazed regretting how much he's given the Basin on a much grander scale, magic as a whole may be acting as a disincentive to mundane technology on many Cosmere worlds. We have not seen enough of Autonomy's magic systems to be certain of their society shaping capacity, but it seems likely to me that she's not likely to encourage independent growth and development, due to her strange relationship with her Shard's Intent. All that to say, I doubt that Autonomy had something to do with the millennium of stagnation on Scadrial. Its possible she wouldn't even see interference as necessary considering their local Shards wanted to 1. freeze everything in place and 2. destroy everything, and she just figured the whole situation would work itself out. Yeah, classical Scadrial might have been developing at an alarming rate (though perhaps it was not and that's a modern Scadrian trait) but is that really a concern with two anti-societal Shards in residence? And for a thousand years, it must have seemed like the problem did work itself out. Technology was stagnating and one of those Shards was dying. Neat. Problem solved. Who could have expected both Shards to die simultaneously and for the perfect vessel to appear and be capable of using both Shards without being torn apart by their opposing Intents? As far as most of the Cosmere was concerned, Scadrial was a doomed world, of course Autonomy didn't need to worry about it. But then it revived, and started getting dangerously close to its fabrial threshold*, which must have seemed out of reach in the days of classical Scadrial. note* by "fabrial threshold" I mean the point at which mundane science is developed enough to allow the creation of magictech (fabrials). This point is going to vary for different worlds, with places like Roshar and Nalthis having extremely low fabrial thresholds, while Scadrial's is unusually high.
  2. Unfortunately I don't believe you understood what I was trying to say. I was wondering about the possibility of these characters having gravitation without any connection to Roshar or its magic systems, but instead accessing it through a completely separate invested art. And I consider storing the power in Nicrosil to be merely a semantic difference in this context.
  3. The downside of the fandom having so many transcriptions rather than just summaries of Sanderson's words is that we tend to treat him as a fey that can only speak the truth and hides meaning in their words rather than a human who can misspeak. Unfortunately, he encourages it with all his RAFOs and dodging topics like someone trying to ask their first crush out. I suppose we are the reap he has wrought. Purely for the sake of argument, because I don't believe this at all, could it be that they are not Skybreakers but still have access to the surge of gravitation? As the Cosmere develops we see more and more overlap between the invested arts, so perhaps this is case here and the line about legality was meant to clue us in to something strange happening.
  4. I'm sure some Scadrian Bible-thumper equivalent has made copies that are carved into metal. And by that I mean that I'm sure there are a whole bunch of them. So they'll probably be fine.
  5. Doesn't Mraize say he's found a way to get it off-world in RoW?
  6. Frus, this find is brilliant, even if Sanderson doesn't end up using it. I actually had a discussion with some friends of mine a while (year+) ago about how I was disappointed that we've never seen the idea of a mounted Knight Radiant. You've got me thinking now, Quantus, what if the fifth oath lets Radiants send their spren, possibly their greater spren, possibly their lesser spren, into a creature's gemheart to empower that creature with surges, and then use it as a mount? Though with that line of thinking, I suppose a Knight could always send their lesser spren to cover a ryshadium as barding. No one can deny that a giant horse in shardplate would be beyond awesome. As for us having never seen indications of this happening in the past, it is probably fair to say that 5th order Radiants have been exceptionally rare throughout history, and it might even be that some of them never had the time or opportunity to discover the mounted bonus of the 5th oath. But I agree that it would have been cool to see some foreshadowing if their is the next step. Though Sanderson is famous for giving us foreshadowing that we don't realize is foreshadowing until several books later.
  7. I'm half convinced that Stormlight just lets you ignore the body's normal self-imposed limits on strength exertion (which normally exist for a very good reason) and then just heals away the damage removing those limits would cause. But the other half of me is convinced that we still don't fully understand what it is stormlight does. I mean Kaladin shows substantially heightened reflexes in the WoR duel that immediately goes away when he runs out of stormlight, but I don't know if any non-windrunners have shown the same benefit. I could see where stormlight provides a substantial boost to strength, or where it does not, or even where it does for some orders but not others. If there is a definitive answer on this, I personally cannot say, and many others seem confused about it as well, based on how many times this conversation has occurred in the fandom.
  8. I know TotES is clearly a story told by Hoid with some artistic license, but I don't like the idea of a precedent where we can't believe the things we "see" in a Cosmere novel. I understand the idea of an unreliable narrator, but there's a difference between an unreliable narrator that shows us events from the character's perspective, and an unreliable narrator that is lying to the reader. If we start opening the door to the idea that what we see in the books is a lie, its a quick drop to the narrative collapsing. This is how you end up with those, "the main character is in a coma and hallucinating the whole story" theories, which is the death of story. As for how exactly Hoid was able to change the curse, this was something that bothered me as well in the reading. Aons are so specific that the idea of changing them based off a pun (and a pun in English, no less), but I suppose, as I think about it, the Aons used for curses must last beyond the initial casting for them to have a permanent effect. If that's the case, it makes enough sense why Hoid can't erase them, they're already acting as conduits for investiture, after all, but also that he can add more modifiers to what already exists in order to change the final outcome. In other words, I don't think he changed Riina's spell at all, I think he added to it. I can't be sure how exactly he did this, because Aons are extremely complicated, but I imagine it had to be something like this: We are told, "The curse had said [Charlie] needed to bring the person he loved most to the Sorceress's home, to be cursed, in exchange for his freedom." So the things that the curse needed to be able to do includes detecting where Charlie is in relation to the Sorceress's home, detect who Charlie loves most and her proximity to him, and detect the condition of Charlie's love to react if she has been cursed. Breaking this down into these three steps, the second is the part, detecting who Charlie loves most and her proximity to him, Hoid didn't have to modify. This function probably works off of detecting Charlie's Connections, his bonds, and then a simple Aon Tia modifier that measures location and creates an upper bound for the condition, something like Tress having to be within 20 feet of Charlie. The first part of the mechanic, bringing Tress to the Sorceress's home, could work in a number of ways. It could be detecting Riina herself, searching for her Identity, but the specific wording, "the Sorceress's home," indicates that it instead was tracking physical location. This makes a lot of sense as Riina probably didn't expect to be leaving her island any time soon. So if the location of the curse was based on planetary location, it probably operated off of something like a coordinate system, and all Hoid had to do was add distance to the target location. To explain, if the curse was programming, Riina put in a function something like, "When Charlie is within 500 feet of location x, y, z (x y and z representing the coordinates of Riina's island), then..." Hoid couldn't change the code, but he could add to it, making it instead, "When Charlie is within 500 feet of location x+a, y+a, z+a (a representing the distance from the Sorceress's island to Tress's home), then..." Thus, Hoid could adjust the target location of the curse being lifted without actually needing to erase and of Riina's Aons. The third part is the strangest. Somehow, Charlie's curse needed to detect when Tress was cursed. In my mind, the easiest way to do this would be to detect whether or not Tress had any Aonic Investiture affecting her, but its clear that couldn't be how Riina was doing it, or Hoid shouldn't have been able to do what he did. Plus, it might not have been possible to write the curse to detect Tress's condition directly, since the curse was placed on Charlie, and Riina had never interacted with Tress to code that part to her identity. So perhaps it instead targeted Tress through her Connection with Charlie. If that's the case, the curse may have been set to check for Charlie's perception of Tress. This might, and I stress, might, be where Hoid's pun comes in. If Charlie's curse was checking his perception of Tress for its end condition, then it could have been tied into Charlie's mind and thus understanding of language. The curse was checking for the condition "cursed" as Charlie understood it. The code equivalent might be something like, "If connectiontarget = charliepercption(Cursed), then..." As for how Hoid could have changed the perception target of Riina's Aons, I have no idea. That goes beyond the Aonic knowledge I possess. Frankly, it seems to me like it would have been easier for him to just give Tress a very minor and easily broken curse himself, which would have fulfilled the conditions for Charlie's curse, then just broken Tress's curse via the very easy conditions. He could have saved them a lot of time by just putting Tress into a endless sleep with the condition to pull her out being true love's kiss, and then Charlie could have just kissed her and woken her up. Bam, easy solution while maintaining the fairy tale ending. But that said, I very much understand where Hoid, being Hoid, may have intentionally taken the harder path for everyone involved for the sake a climatic entry, as well as forcing Charlie to write a beautiful poem for Tress, simply because he saw that as a better ending.
  9. I am going to attempt to answer this as diplomatically as possible. Malmahan doesn't just kill talented artists, he kills geniuses at the peak of their talent. So, either Ariana Grande is, by Malmahan's thinking, not a genius or has not reached the peak of her talent. That is the diplomatic answer. Y'all can guess what the not diplomatic answer is.
  10. I agree with you here, I don't believe making logic gates using awakening is at all reasonable. The original question was just about how you could make a computer with awakening, so I started by reply by giving the most straight forward answer based on what we've seen and what we know about awakening. Then I go onto what I think the more reasonable explanation is. I'm almost positive you can use awakening to give "programs" directly to an object, but since we've not seen it done and the original post was asking a question, I was conservative in my answer and replied only with what information we have seen in the books instead of speculating on possibilities through extrapolation of what we have seen. I assumed this post was going to get more replies that would go into the topic further, and then the discussion would begin. I was merely trying to start thing off by giving the "by the book" answer.
  11. I found myself wondering about this as well. There are a few other things throughout the audio drama that seemed to indicate to me that with the Dark One novel coming out, we've entered a new cannon. Also, while this may not be a retcon, due to how little we knew about Paul's father, the graphic novel heavily implied that Zoran went to Mirandus and never returned, while he appears in the audio drama as the "ember wizard." So yeah, I agree with you that the third option is the most likely.
  12. This is why kandra have bothered me for years. If they can replicate genetic material, shouldn't they be able to use that genetic material to produce all kinds of cells, including bone and hair? I get that it takes a long time to make that stuff, but kandra are immortal, and I can see numerous benefits to being able to control every stage of development of bone growth to achieve specific results.
  13. While I suspect that Wax (and most modern coinshots) practice enough to change their push point just enough to aid their marksmanship, another possibility might involve the fact that, as for at least part of the series, we're mostly dealing with wild west style firearms, Wax might be shooting from the hip, quick-draw style. That would put the lines of his shots much more aligned with his center of mass.
  14. I mean as a general statement, computers work via "gates" that have an input and an output. Awaken something with a clear "on/off" state, like a light bulb, and tell it to watch the light bulb in front of it and turn on if that light bulb lights up. Do that a bunch of times and you have a computer. Beyond that, we don't know if the computers we see in TotES are functioning off Breath alone, or, as I suspect is more likely, they're normal, non-magical computers that have been upgraded by giving them Breath. In regards to true AI, Breaths are pieces of souls, so it only makes sense that if you gather enough of them you can stick them together and make a complete soul, albeit a patchwork one.
  15. Is this building towards a "that's no moon" moment?