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13 hours ago, alder24 said:
I don't understand your question. What rejection are you talking about? Rejecting the values of the Final Empire - certainly, that was a slave state run by a bloody autocratic ruler.
Do they think the idea of empire, that is a state comprising all of Scadrial, is evil?
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This schedule raises a fundamental question.
How is it possible that the Ghostblood series will not utterly spoil the second half of Stormlight Archive?
On 12/20/2023 at 4:58 AM, Pagerunner said:If Brandon can successfully hold off on publishing any major books for four years, he'll have that backlog he talked about in his early career, where he doesn't have to rush to finish a book to get it out. He'll be able to knock out a whole Stormlight book for 2031 at this rate, and he'll be pretty easily able to keep his yearly December tentpole release. It'll just take a bit of a reset here.
Brandon himself may be capable of that. But it seems impossible for Dan Wells to not publish Cosmere stuff for that long.
And whatever Boatload of Mummies will eventually be called, it should also come out during that period.
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On 11/26/2023 at 9:19 PM, Elite01 said:
I think compounding copper could be useful to make back up copper minds
Unless you have a way to duplicate a copper mind, you need to assume that Kelsier made his memories into coins and lost them.
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Listening to @FeatherWriter 's splendid carol I was triggered into thinking. It makes perfect sense that House Venture wants to claim Vin as one of them. How secure is that claim? I mean, technically Vin was a Tekiel, wasn't she? Do they claim her?
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Do Survivorists reject the Final Empire? That is is the concept of a unified Scadrial tainted by the association with the Lord Ruler or do they make a distinction between the ruler and the state? The political state of the Elendel Basin suggests the former, but from a view point of surviving strength in numbers cannot be rejected out of hand. What is the theological stance?
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19 hours ago, alder24 said:
She said she is a brand new apprentice, I wouldn't expect her to be that Senna, who probably is someone pre-Shattering. But when does she write this? When is "6th Epoth, year 31?"
Round about, very roughly about 6000 years before Stormlight Archive. The very minimum is given by the time between Aharietiam and Stormlight Archive, which is given as 4500 years. And that means that the radiants must have still been demigods in an ordinary Rosharan's eyes. What she writes does not fit that.
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6 hours ago, LuckyJim said:
I wouldn't look to closely into it, it's more likely they're just similar names. I mean if this really is that Senna she'd already be pretty well traveled and at least somewhat familiar with Hoid, so why would she be so shocked that Hoid would ask her to prepare treatises on the different orders of Knights Radiant? It really seems like she's just an ordinary person on Roshar who became an apprentice Worldsinger.
I doubt that she is an ordinary person on Roshar.
- This sounded like she was somewhat unfamiliar with the Knights Radiant
- She knows Hoid as Hoid, while the Heralds refer to him as Midius
This sounds like a worldhopper composing these essays.
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2 minutes ago, Thaidakar the Ghostblood said:
It says in the description what her name is.
This means we now know two of Hoid's three apprentices.
Thanks. I should have read it. That said, Senne Khald ? Coincidence? Or common ethnicity? Remember that millenia have passed and reduction of a final vowel is fairly common a change.
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In case you haven't watched it:
Say the WordsIt raises one question:
Who is Senna Holk? Presuming I heard the name correctly. And if so? And, if I heard correctly That Senna? If not, from the same place, where the name is common?
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16 hours ago, PinkPlasma said:
first off, its hard for me to imagine that any merchant, military, or travel in general, would opt for the danger of the voids of space, lightyears of travel, over what takes a few months to walk in shadesmar. but then that got me thinking about what shadesmar really is.
Shadesmar is dangerous. It is a desert. Shadesmar is horribly clunky. travelling Shadesmar involves land transport. Compare the freight rates for trucking and shipping.
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1 hour ago, Treamayne said:
- That's implied, but not certain*.
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Did you read the WoBs I posted? Often a Manifestation of Investiture is the result of Shard+Being+Planet. My point was that, while Odium's influence is likely part of the cause, it is unlikely that he made a conscious decision like "I'll make Fused and give them one Surge each."
- In other words, he made Fused and the natural result of that action is what you see now - based on the interactions of all those factors.
The WoBs seem to mainly touch upon what Surgebinders can do, for example why Lightweavers show up among them. That is a distinct question of how you become a Surgebinder.
And the thing is that Odium definitely intentonally gave them powers. Do you seriously want to propose that he inadvertedly made them Surgebinders?
2 hours ago, The Lost Ookla said:So what fallows is all just theoryland, but I think it comes down to Odium's level of Investment in Roshar. I think he's been trying to avoid any actual investment for as long as possible, trickling it out in an attempt to Hit&Run the other Shards without being Bound to Roshar any more than necessary (and that did not go well, overall). So at first he did whatever he could to make tools with the locally availible materials: Instead of his own Spren He turned Singers into Cognitive Shadows, and instead of his own Herald Champions he UnMade things he found.
Then why would we assume that giving people on a direct supply of power from himself the powers of a Shard native to Roshar would tie him less to Roshar?
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1 hour ago, Treamayne said:
- We do not know why "Voidbinding" is named such, it may not have anything to do with Odium (directly)
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While Odium may have crafted the Fused, generally speaking Shards do not "make" or "give" manifectations of investiture that way directly
- The obvious exceptions being things powered by Splinters, like Returned or Honorblades
- Enlightened spren do something different in terms of powers granted and they are partly of Odium, are they not?
- The Stormfather told us that the Fused originally were not Surgebinders. How else, if not directly through Odium's actions did they become Surgebinders?
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OK, this may be a stupid question, but why did Odium make Surgebinders? Him being Odium I'd assume that the default would be Voidbinders. Why did he go to the extra effort of making the Fused Surgebinders?
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On 12/15/2023 at 9:14 PM, Treamayne said:
To be fair, it's the re-reads after Edgedancer that count. I don't think we were meant to get that detail before then.
Well, we knew three species at a minimum were present. And I have to correct myself. The burnt arthropods are from one of Dalinar's visions.
It seems to me that we were to get that a multispecies battle had been fought. Though even to this day, we strictly speaking do not know on whose side the corpses of the violett blood had fought nor whom they were bound to. Though I suppose if they had been bound to voidspren the mechanics would be the same.
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On 12/13/2023 at 6:02 AM, Stick The Savant said:
I know that Dysian Aimians (Sleepless) can form into humanlike colonies and have a hivemind conscience. If one wanted to bond a Spren, would they be able to?
The very first prologue of Aharietiam features three kinds of blood and something that looks like burnt insects.
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6 hours ago, Paradox-Hopper said:
Inside Tress, they are definitely not centuries in the future. Inside Tress, Hoid mentioned at one point that it had only been a few decades after Sazed released the Kandra. This being around probably 30 years after Wax and Wayne.
Sorry, but no, that is indefensible due to the Iriali.
It's been 341 years since they went away from Lumar. As of Rhythm of War they are still on Roshar. And they need to spend some time on Lumar. Something around 400 years after Rhythm of War is the minimum.
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13 hours ago, alder24 said:
So why did he kill Sadeas if he's such a well trained staff officer, who makes the same calculations as Dalinar? He acted out of emotions once, he didn't regret it, he can do it again. Emotions can overwhelm even the most logical person. Adolin has a lot of repressed emotions inside of him. Adolin might see the result of his mission in a different light, see a positive side where Dalinar can't because they both think in different ways. 2 great officers can disagree on how to lead a battle, Adolin and Dalinar can disagree on how successful the mission was.
Killing Sadeas was a good idea. Not a honorable idea, but that what a rational observer would have considered desirable in Adolin's place.
Yes, we might see a screaming match behind closed doors. But fundamentally, Adolin was to get more honorspren. Are they coming?
11 hours ago, Stew said:I think Adolin would spend the trip back, while under pressure to move as quickly as possible, thinking about how the mission went and what they actually achieved. Obviously it’s quite a bit, but it’s natural for someone to be nervous that they aren’t meeting expectations. It’s part of the human mentality, especially in such stressful situations.
IF that were the case, it goes essentially two ways (in my eyes).
Either Adolin gets overly stressed about the situation and his inability to help (something brought up multiple times in the books, especially in regards to being a non-radiant) and he needs to be supported by Shallan, something that happens infrequently as he’s the one always supporting others through their crisis.
Or Adolin gets more and more frustrated that what he does won’t be enough for Dalinar, despite his efforts and the amazing work he’s doing to revive maya. Then if he DOES get back, I’m not sure how they’d move that fast but book logic I guess, he’s already worked up and angry about a conversation that hasn’t even happened yet.
Frankly, I do not get the assumption that Adolin would try to get home quickly or why Dalinar would propose that. They are finally at a place where answers are to be had. Militarily relevant answers. Do you remember Dalinar's first military principle? Information is priceless.
Nor can I see why Adolin would want to leave Shadesmar. He is useful there.
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18 minutes ago, alder24 said:
Yes, and that makes their conflict even more interesting and impactful! It doesn't need to lead to civil war, just political division.
That is why we will see it in the second half, if it happens. The Kholins have political issues to clash over. Most obviously Gavilor and Jasnah.
3 hours ago, alder24 said:Once again, I reference the "it's all about Dalinar" feeling that Adolin has. Adolin might consider he achieved a different kind of victory than it was planned at first, still very important, a chance to bring Deadeyes at least partially back to life - something that he deserves credits for. His father might be dismissive of this because he doesn't think it's as important as having new Radiants right now.
Adolin is a trained staff officer. He will make the same calculation. His troops are in the field dieing.
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Do Honorblades change your eye color, if applicable? If not, why not?
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3 hours ago, alder24 said:
What? I didn't suggest they might fight in a literal sword fight to death. Even @Stew didn't suggest that. It's about having an open conflict, some disagreement, verbal, moral, or other kind of non-physical fight. A split in the family.
The Kholins are aristocrats. For them this idea that they have a private life that is divorced from the political does not exist. And they know that. If Adolin and Dalinar clash, it is a political rift among the Alethi.
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12 minutes ago, alder24 said:
Yes. Right now Dalinar and Adolin are on very shaky grounds. Adolin loves his father, but there is a tension growing between them because of what Dalinar did to Evi, and what Adolin did to Sadeas. RoW ch 21:
What would they fight about? Sure, they have issues, but Adolin doing a revenge killing on Dalinar for his mother? I am afraid somebody has to say it: Evi ultimately was a traitor.
13 minutes ago, alder24 said:But the tension is growing between Adolin and Dalinar, and a new WoB points at this as well:
AllomancerSam (paraphrased)
Would Dalinar consider the Shadesmar trip to be a success?
Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased)
Not as successful as he wanted, so a minor success
Adolin might once again feel that "it's all about Dalinar" and feel that Dalinar doesn't consider what Adolin achieved to be something major - for Adolin it means a possibility of helping Maya (while Dalinar wants Adolin to join an Order and get rid of her). The conflict between them seems to be rising. RoW ch 21:
Why would Adolin see that differently. He is a military officer. He knows the objective of his mission. It has not been reached to a large extent.
15 hours ago, Stew said:Also sorry if this is jumbled and I’m missing information, I’m currently rereading and also this is my first post! I’m new here, literally started today, but I’ve been reading through this site for months now and I just wanted to participate a bit. Sorry if this is an odd question.
No, it is not an odd question. But a part seems to be missing: What would they fight about? You are talking about highly educated intelligent people, who are unlikely to fight over emotions. They were sitting at the same table with Taravangian and are ready to deal in good faith with Odium. They are not going to start a civil war over disliking each other.
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On 11/26/2023 at 1:22 PM, alder24 said:
Because Shades are dangerous and would kill them?
But they were known, if the formation of Shades predates Nazriloff's exile.
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On 9/2/2023 at 7:02 PM, Hatman said:
Most people seem to be approaching this in terms of interesting, creative, or useful ways of combining powers, but that is not what I meant. For example, for a Windrunner, I am talking about things good for protecting, not necessarily things that go well with adhesion and gravitation.
Windrunners protect by fighting. They fight by using their powers. The same is true for the Stonewards and Skybreakers for their respective ideals.
If we look at the other orders
- Bondsmiths - emotional allomancy
- Edgedancers - feruchemical copper
- Truthwatchers - allomantic gold + feruchemical zinc
- Dustbringers - allomantic pewter + feruchemical electrum
- Elsecallers - allomantic pewter + feruchemical zinc
- Lightweaver - allomantic gold
- Willshapers - not emotional allomancy
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On 11/14/2023 at 7:53 PM, Eternal Khol said:
Well there are WoB that say otherwise and one specific one talking about this with Honor.
If you were to see Tanavast now, you'd see a Cognitive Shadow. The Shard of Honor no longer exists. It has been splintered.
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Did Taravangian Sneak into Kaladin and Shallan's Backstories?
in Stormlight Archive
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Why would Taravangian need to seek out Knights Radiant by looking for people surviving unsurvivable accidents under that premise?