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  1. On 9/3/2019 at 8:17 PM, RShara said:

    Healing doesn't change you based on what you want but on what you are. Or what you believe you are, down to the last molecule of your being.  If they truly see themselves as of a different gender, then yes, they could heal into that gender. But someone else healing them, thinking they are male, wouldn't change them into a male.

    That begs the question what would happen if you healed somebody high on magic mushrooms or LSD.


  2. 38 minutes ago, Gilphon said:

    that Lift would strongly argue against using Nightblood, and that they're more likely to listen to her opinion than Szeth's.

    They would most likely try to study it. If they found a way to mass produce Shard Weapons, that could be victory.

    38 minutes ago, Gilphon said:

    I also don't think they really have a good reason to trust Szeth very far- he just kind of showed up out of the blue and claimed to be on their side now.

    • He can summon a living Shard Blade. He is a Knight Radiant.
    • They know about the oath stone from Taravangian
    • If he hadn't shown up, Odium would have won
    38 minutes ago, Gilphon said:

    And even if they did, can they really justify just ignoring all the very public muders he's committed? I somehow doubt that 'nah, it's cool, the Skybreakers said I was pardoned for all crimes I committed before joining them' is gonna carry a huge amount of water. Certainly not enough to make Jasnah and Dalinar comfortable with the presence of the man who killed Gavilar. 

    Then they could send him on a dangerous mission to a remote place. But putting a Radiant into jail is a gigantic waste. Even sending him to a lab for scholars to study Division would make more sense.


  3. 4 hours ago, Karger said:

    Seems too significant to happen off screen.

    Well, while this is true, it is turning into a rote answer. A whole group of highly competent and active people have been sitting on their thumbs for a whole year. Why?

    4 hours ago, Karger said:

    Sure but simply adding new radiants seems like cheating.

    So leaving the Stump just out there?

    4 hours ago, Karger said:

    Dalinar could just order him to go to jail.

    He could, but where is the point? You have a whole order of Knights Radiant against you and you jail the first of their members on your side?

    Moreover, Szeth wields the only weapon they know to permanently kill Fused yet Dalinar puts him into jail? Where is Nightblood?


  4. On 2/11/2019 at 6:28 AM, Koloss said:

    Are there flying insects like cockroaches and dragonflies, or grasshoppers on Roshar? How big are the leggers and amphibian-things? Are they small enough to be eaten by something the size of a Cardinal or Chickadees

    Sorry for coming back to this, but there other references:

    1. Flies that soemtimes appear around rotting fruit - looks like fruit flies to me
    2. Weevilwax in Oathbringer, chapter 4 - earth weevils do not make wax in large quantities

    This looks to me like we have two kinds of insects on Roshar. Imported ones like fruit flies and native products of convergent evolution. And possibly a third batch related to Aimians. Depending on what a Larkin is.


  5. 23 hours ago, Pathfinder said:

    Not irrelevant. Confirmed by Taravangian. They are the ones that let the fused in.

    "Dalinar doesn't know of the Diagram." Adrotagia countered. "Or that we brought the singers to Urithiru. He only knows that Kharbranth controlled the assassin -

    Malata has kept her head. Dalinar does not know who opened the gate. In fact he does not know that the gate was opened by a traitor. For all he knows Odium has some limited ability to override the blocks. That is a severe tactical problem.


  6. 12 minutes ago, Rushu42 said:

    Perhaps the devotaries will split over this issue, with some claiming that Dalinar is chosen by the Almighty or something, and others saying that he's still a heretic, and perhaps even in league with the Voidbringers. Doubtless this whole situation would make him very uncomfortable. Of course, it's just a theory.

    I don't see how the heretic middle position is tenable. Nevertheless the human tendency to shoot the messenger is strong. Many will blame him. And many will blame him for giving up on the vengeance pact.


  7. 13 hours ago, Karger said:

    I kind of doubt this one.

    Why not? Is a perfect gem something else but a set of proportions? If so, what?

    13 hours ago, Karger said:

    Squire promotion I can see.  New Radiants just showing up at Urithiru might be stretching things a bit.

    That raises three points.

    1. Aren't they actively searching for Radiats and taking them to Urithiru? Won't they flee from occupied territories?
    2. A whole year and nobody has sent an expedition to bond the Nightwatcher?
    3. They still haven't found the Sibling?
    13 hours ago, Karger said:

    I doubt it.  Maybe to Adolin under promises of secrecy.

    If she does not come clear ,we will see Jasnah and Navani probe into how come her whole family showed up exactly on her wedding day.

    13 hours ago, Karger said:

    Put it under a microscope(metaphorically).  Other then that nothing.

    If you have a whole team of artefabrians?

    13 hours ago, Karger said:

    My thoughts on what has happened

    • Rock's novella(horneater king FTW).
    • Szeth will have been jailed.

    How? I can sort of see that one might not want to have the Assassin in White running around. But how do you jail a man who can summon a Shard Blade? Why do you even try?

    13 hours ago, Karger said:
    • Venli will have some singers she can rely on(to some degree).
    • The bridge crews will have more training.
    • Some rebuilding will have happened in Theylen city and the Alethi war camps. 
    • Potentially we will have a partial relocation there.
    • Jasnah will have settled in as queen.

    What has happened to Vorinism theologically?



  8. 41 minutes ago, bxcnch said:

    IIRC, when Susebron interrupts Bluefinger when he's about to kill Siri, he says "stop" and Bluefinger does. And he explicitly does before he is hit with an awakened object. Sounds like Type VI to me.

    Inconclusive. He most likely was not naked. Hence we cannot be sure what was awakened.


    • the gem archive has been transcribed and catalogued
    • there has been a full debrief of everybody and full sharing of information at least among the leadership
    • Navani has figured out how to make perfect spheres
    • They have new storm tables
    • the number of Radiants has risen

    But some things are less clear

    1. Has Shallan come clear about the Ghostbloods?
    2. What has Navani done with Nergaoul?



  9. 28 minutes ago, Isilel said:

    Not only the budding Radiants - they need to rescue artifabrians, scholars, artisans. Their one advantage this time around is the much higher technoligical base and the fact that fabrial science was on the cusp of a major creative explosion.

    The reverse is also true. The Fused never met a population that was just recently awakened. Though that would call for striking quickly. Which is not necessarily a contradiction. You can remain on the defensive in a strategic sense, while doing some local attacks at key points. I would suggest to strike on the ocean and to occupy key fortresses while you can.

    28 minutes ago, Isilel said:

    This  is a completely unprecedented situation, which will, hopefully, mark the transition between reliance on the few super-powered individuals, who can't be everywhere at once, to the non-powered people being able to fend off the Fused (and the voidforms?), too. Also, with the ready availability of uncomplaining, submissive slave labour abruptly drying up, they are very much motivated to design a number of labour-saving devices and means of transport.

    The latter is questionable. Parshmen were mostly a luxury and specialized item. Human slaves were cheaper. In fact it may be risky to abolish slavery just as Parshendi would have a chance to turn the table.

    28 minutes ago, Isilel said:

    A very good point about the Fused - maybe there is a way to hold them off in Shadesmar, before they can reach Roshar and the cycle of unlimited respawn through Everstorm? It would require making alliances with intelligent spren and smoothing over the wounds of the Recreance, though.

    The Fused are nice enough to demonstrate the need for such an alliance to the Spren. Torching ships and buildings is bad PR. There must be a reason for the Fused to take the perpendicularity. To just let them seems to be a bad idea. And to walk up to the Horneater peaks looks like a bad idea, too. You do the expected and the enemy has the higher ground, literally.

    28 minutes ago, Isilel said:

    Which is why Alethkar-in-exile can't stay in Urithiru, but has to move back where they can grow at least some of their food naturally. We can trust Sebarial on this, IMHO, he knows his stuff.

    Exactly. And it provides employment to the refugees.

    28 minutes ago, Isilel said:

    Couldn't disagree more, since learning the process of reviving a dead blade would be key to awakening the Sibling and to convincing the reluctant Nahel spren peoples and individuals to ally with humans again. Restoring one cultivationspren is by itself not all that important, but the implications and the potential pay-off would be huge indeed. As you yourself noted, convincing the spren to bond in numbers should be a priority. And if Adolin is Edgedancer matierial, he is going to try to restore Maya regardless of the logical considerations of effort spent versus gain.

    He isn't. A Windrunner I'd say, if we go by natural inclination. But you could not implement the method. Would you go and confiscate Shard Blades? If you want Alethi nobles to switch to Odium, that is the way to go. And the rest of Roshar would see yet another Alethi plot to take away their weapons.

    28 minutes ago, Isilel said:

    As Dalinar's first flashback showed, not very. And that's the kind of thing that I expect Fused raids to do routinely, if the Alethi try to take back Alethkar. And yes, of course, the Windrunners can retaliate - though currently the Fused have numerical superiority, that's how civilizations were smashed back to stone age during the Desolations. It didn't work great for the peoples of Roshar back them and there is no reason to think that it would have better results in the present.

    They won. I cannot see the Radiants just giving away that weapon unused.

    28 minutes ago, Isilel said:

    Archery is currently useless against the attackers with the surge of Gravitation, as both Kaladin's heroics against the Parshendi and the Fused against the Wall Guard proved. Also, while the Fused don't heal as quickly as the Radiants, killing one of them with an arrow would still be very unlikely. Alethi need to learn to make arrows or bolts with explosive tips and to coat them with aluminium to actually significantly hurt/kill the Fused.

    Good suggestion. Poison would likely be cheaper in the short run, though.

    28 minutes ago, Isilel said:

    Windrunners are only faster in the short term - they accelerate better and can pile on more Lashings, but the Fused can maintain their surges endlessly, while the Radiants run out of stormlight. Which would work in their favor during raids, particularly if they time them for long enough after a highstorm that the gems are only weakly charged.

    Not on the defensive. You concentrate your forces on random locations. Then you let the flying Fused pass and hit them on the return leg. And you create fuel depots. Radiants can transfer Stormlight. The way squires work requires local concentration anyway.

    28 minutes ago, Isilel said:

    As to communication - did you miss that during their conquest of Alethkar the Fused located and confiscated the fabrials first? As long as normal people can't fend them off at least for long enough that Radiant help can arrive, holding productive territory against them in the easy strike range is impossible. Only distance can give enough of a respite from their attentions at the moment.

    They can confiscate only on their own territory. This is a nice way to plan an ambush though. Lure them in with a fabrial.

    28 minutes ago, Isilel said:

    Are you familiar with the history of French and Russian revolutions? It doesn't take nearly as long as you think.

    Still years. And in the Russian case, the result wasn't all that good.


  10. 7 hours ago, Karger said:

    Being a squire is not realy any different from being a soldier and most Lighteyes volunteer for their positions.  You will probably always have more volunteers then viable candidates anyway.

    Right. This is counterintuitive. But they have the Windrunners. They could drown them in squires. Ugly strategy though.

    7 hours ago, Karger said:

    The singers will get steadily better the longer they are awake.  However you realy can't train someone for high level command in under a decade.  Basically their is no substitute for experience no matter how good your teaching methods are.

    That raises a point. Why would Odium use corporal leaders? He has Voidspren.

    7 hours ago, Karger said:

    No idea.  However Szeth has the ability to train skybreakers just like Nale does so I assume this will even out over time.

    How many would Nale find? And more importantly, Nale may be crazy, but he has quite some integrity. He will not force trainees to choose his side.

    On 9/10/2019 at 5:12 PM, Karger said:

    The Stormfather will not even say when the next highstrom is happening.  I doubt he will allow a feeble human to dictate how he does his job.

    Honor did use him. The Stormfather outright said so.

    On 9/10/2019 at 4:46 PM, Pathfinder said:

    That is why I considered potentially Dalinar and Navani as the prevailing theory (though not confirmed) is that Urithiru is a giant fabrial powered by the 3rd bondsmith. I figured Navani would be the most interested in researching it, and potentially even bonding it, and Dalinar already being a bondsmith could assist, taking an interest in the things she loves, unlike Gavilar. Though I could see Jasnah and Renarin working together on it,

    . There is one more point. Navani has a sphere and a trapped Unmade to research.


  11. 18 minutes ago, Karger said:

    Actually at a certain point I think you can.  Remember killing a Radiant does not kill the spren and spren generally weather the death of their Radiant.

    You lose the blade and the plate as they have to progress through the oaths.

    18 minutes ago, Karger said:

    Squires can be replaced fairly easily

    That is possible. But when will you run out of volunteers? You cannot draft squires.

    18 minutes ago, Karger said:

    and Nightblood is capable of killing a fused permanently.  Additionally many fused will be needed for none combat duties across Roshar training singers to read and write, in command,

    That works both ways. The Singers are gaining trained people. It will be interesting to see how many Radiants will arise.

    And that leaves out another question. How many Skybreakers will fight on the Singers' side? And in which operations will they participate? Do independent Singers have an even older claim that superseeds Odium's Singers' claim? And once a Skybreaker dies, will their spren retrn to fight on Odium's side?



  12. 8 hours ago, Isilel said:

    It would be impossible for Alethi to produce anything on those lands, should they temporarily recapture them, unless they have weapons that let soldiers hold off the Fused. The reason for massive collapses of civilization during the Desolations was that you can't really hold territory against surge-binders. They can pick and chose where to raid and destroy and normal people - either human or singer, can do nothing to stop them, as we have seen with the Wall Guard.

    How hard is it to torch fields on Roshar? How dense is the vegetation?

    Secondly, this of course applies both ways. What flying Fused can do, Windrunners or Skybreakers can emulate.

    Thirdly, defenses can be improved. Fortifications can be roofed and archery trained.

    8 hours ago, Isilel said:

     Raiders can pick and chose where to strike and ensure that they always have local numerical superiority. Also, there is a voidform that can tell the future, which might help the Fused plan their attacks even better.

    Apparently Windrunners are faster. Roshar has unjammable and uninterceptable real-time communication. Air defenses can be organized.

    8 hours ago, Isilel said:

    But rushing into fighting the parshmen would only solidify the racial divide. That's how it was done during Heraldic Epochs and the False Desolation and we know that it is an ultimately losing strategy.

    They were also fighting mortal enemies (at least for one desolation). Yes, it looks like a defensive strategy is best.
    You want to improve your fortifications and make the enemy bleed. Yet, you can do something. Classsical guerilla and terrorism.

    Secondly, you need to keep trade running as far as possible. Humans have the advantage of having more shipwrights. They also have superior capabilities in the area of fabrials and far more literate people. Humans can field a whole lot of spanreeds and warning fabrials. And maybe the painrial can be weaponized. Anti-air harpoons? Still, I think navally they should go on the offensive.

    8 hours ago, Isilel said:

    It also fosters hatred, which benefits Odium. This time, the anti-Odium side needs to win the hearts and minds of the singers, which likely was made easier by the fact that the parshmen share cultures of the nations that they have lived amongst. I suspect Cultivation's hand in this. Kaladin's, Venli's and Rlain's arcs look to be going in that direction.

    Grant them lands of supplies.

    2 hours ago, Karger said:

    Fused Raids will be problematic.  This does not mean that suing Alethi lands is impossible.  Their are limited numbers of fused and they can only cover so much teritory.  They will also be needed in the mustering equipping and training of the singer armies.

    They are immortal though. You cannot trade Surgebinder for Surgebinder. The Radiants need to find a way to fight under very favorable conditions. And spend time on weapons research. Can you trap a Fused in a gem? And can they replicate the weapon that killed a Herald? They know it is possible now.

    On 9/10/2019 at 10:27 PM, Pathfinder said:

    Not a single event. Jasnah tried to access Urithiru via an oathgate she discovered prior to the oathbringer book but was unable to because the other side (Urithiru) was locked. That is why it required them to get there from the Shattered Plains first. All the other gates were locked from Urithiru except the Shattered Plains. When they got to Urithiru, they tried to go elsewhere, but the other side was locked. Which is why Taravangian mentioned having Malata to unlock his side, Lift at Azir, and why it required Kaladin flying over to Thaylenah to unlock theirs. Both sides have to be unlocked in order to transport. If either side is locked, then transportation cannot take place.

    Irrelevant because the Radiants cannot depend on that. Somehow Odium's forces got through. Malata was not seen unlocking the gate. Odium obviously is better at manipulating gates than the Radiants. It happened once. As long as they do not understand why it happened they have to assume it can happen again.

    On 9/10/2019 at 10:27 PM, Pathfinder said:

    Then you know the brief discussion regarding the transition?



  13. 17 minutes ago, Pathfinder said:

    Dalinar as a bondsmith, bonded to the stormfather, a being who knew the sibling and what happened to it, coupled with his powers regarding connection I think is qualified to work with Navani, who is a scholar regarding the potential fabrial/spren that is Urithiru.

    That argument can be made. But then why two people?

    17 minutes ago, Pathfinder said:

    1. Dalinar already sensed Oathbringer gaining sapience

    2. Dalinar's entire schtick, as per the stormfather is bonds, connection, and uniting

    He is also a leader and a soldier.

    17 minutes ago, Pathfinder said:

    3. When Dalinar pulled all three realms together Maya reacted, as well as Taln

    4. Dalinar and Adolin working together in their capacities (high king of Urithiru and highprince) could result in interactions that might trigger further reaction from Maya. Over time little bits here and there build up, till they try it out. 

    5. The gain is the potential revival of all the past killed spren, which could lead to convincing the hold out spren that hate humans to join up and bond radiants, as well as give additional spren to bond even more radiants. 

    A lot of "could". You could also have

    • one shard blade less
    • an insane spren knowing a lot of your secrets
    • a spren that keeps telling everybody about centuries of torture

    So a mere hope against the certainty of taking a lot of time they can ill afford to spend.

    17 minutes ago, Pathfinder said:

    It is not a case of radiants being sure or not. It literally happened. As in those were the events that transpired at the end of Oathbringer. They cannot transport to oathgates that are locked.

    So far. This is taking a single event the people who have to act on it cannot perfectly know as the absolute rule for the future. A responsible commander cannot do that.

    17 minutes ago, Pathfinder said:

    What does that have to do with soulcasters making food and water, and regrowth increasing food supply via growing fields to assist in the economy?

    A soulcaster or user of Regrowth is only useful if you can get what he produces to the hungry people. You may notice that the majority of oath gates were located in cities with a port. That is for the simple reason that you need ships to transport goods in bulk. Hence the Radiants need naval supremacy.

    17 minutes ago, Pathfinder said:

    Have you had a chance to hear the latest reading from Rhythm of War?

    I read it. If you are referring to the prologue.


  14. 3 hours ago, Pathfinder said:

    That is why I considered potentially Dalinar and Navani as the prevailing theory (though not confirmed) is that Urithiru is a giant fabrial powered by the 3rd bondsmith. I figured Navani would be the most interested in researching it, and potentially even bonding it, and Dalinar already being a bondsmith could assist, taking an interest in the things she loves, unlike Gavilar.

    Dalinar, to put it bluntly, is not a scholar or a scientist. And I really doubt he would send his Radiants into danger while quietly researching a building. New Radiants need to be trained and organized. Navani is a logical choice, but you need at least one Surgebinder. As Jasnah is unavailable that means Shallan or Renarin. Who else could do it?

    3 hours ago, Pathfinder said:

    Though I could see Jasnah and Renarin working together on it, while Dalinar and Adolin work on his shardblade. The reasoning for that is because of a personal theory that Dalinar can infuse Maya with investiture, bridging the gap, and helping heal what was torn out.

    Why? This fascination with dead shard blades is highly sentimental.
    That would mean that the only Bondsmith together with  a Highprince and Shard Bearer, both trained military officers, use precious time during a war of possibly annihilation to look into a feat never performed. All without clear gain for the sake of a single spren. This is foolish.

    3 hours ago, Pathfinder said:

    Theoretically as long as they keep the associated oathgate locked, they would not have to worry about further incursions on either side of the war. The reason the fused were able to attack in Oathbringer was because either Malata unlocked it, or they used the honorblade that was stolen to unlock it, enabling the fused to teleport in.

    • the Radiants could never be sure of that
    • Odium certainly has better understanding of oath gates than the Radiants
    • they still have that honor blade

    No, I am sorry, every oath gate they keep has to have a guard force. This is not entirely negative. The Fused are clearly more mobile. Making them attack fortified positions is an advantage.

    3 hours ago, Pathfinder said:

    Interesting thoughts. The fused are certainly already acting in opposition to these points. They are watching the humans closely for budding radiants, so evacuating them quickly as they arise would be paramount.

    On second thought it is the second best option. Surgebinders are distributed in a highly skewed manner. The best way would actually be to get the Spren to concentrate on candidates under safe conditions, like Kaladin is doing with his squires. That points to sending emissaries to them. A secondary objective would be information.

    3 hours ago, Pathfinder said:

    Although it would not be an instant fix, I think Dalinar's recharge powers will do much to help maintain the economy by giving the radiants a means to use their powers to help maintain Urithiru till it is awoken (soulcasting for food, regrowth for healing and increased food generation and so on).

    Not really. There are very few oath gates. Fewer still operational and in friendly hands. Roshar has no cheap form of land transport. A naval response of some kind will be needed.

    3 hours ago, Pathfinder said:

    Every time that is mentioned, I end up picturing the dragon riders of pern with the thread. That does nothing to answer your questions, but I like the imagery. 

    It is a question Dalinar and Adolin (and the Highprinces and Azish generals) will be asking. In addition Odium's forces are unlikely to take the perpendicularity just for fun. I think no good (or even average) military leader can leave this question unaddressed. Running up a mountain where you are expected does not look like a good idea. Again an approach through Shadesmar looks like a more sensible approach.



  15. 5 hours ago, Karger said:

    To Urithiru?  Are they not already there?

    Possibly. After months who can tell where the book will start? I am just assuming that it will be in the Shattered Plains because they need magical power to hold the oath gate against flying Fused.

    That, incidentally, brings me to another point. The oath gates are a major advantage, giving them the inner lines. They can hardly give them up. Yet that dictates the points they have to defend. That may pointer to the obvious counters they can try. That is reverse the strategy of infiltration through an oath gate an burst out of a gate in Iri or  strike at Kholinar (though that would be extremely predictable).

    The other strategic need they have is finding and rescuing any budding Radiant, so their forces can grow. That would involve evacuating families. Also the economy is collapsing. Securing trade is a secondary objective. Something needs to be done about the enemy fleet. Could the Stormfather be used as a weapon?

    Thirdly how do the Fused get to Roshar? Do they teleport or are they walking through Shadesmar? The Radiants are a bit short on intelligence.


  16. 1 hour ago, Pathfinder said:

    The second viewpoint cluster, which is the one I've now finished, follows two characters on a very involved--but more narrowly focused--plot. The final cluster takes two remaining viewpoint characters, and touches lightly upon what they are doing, without going into quite as much depth as the other two groups.

    • They have to hold the oath gates and Urithiru
    • Urithiru unless it is switched back on is problematic for reasons of logistics
    • The investigators need to be good in dealing with Spren and of the brainy version
    • Jasnah needs to govern. They need a place to shelter the refugeees.

    It seems to me that if they send a small team to Urithiru it would have to be Shallan and Renarin


  17. 7 hours ago, Vindo said:

    I really like the idea of the fourth ideal being about forgiveness. Windrunners and Skybreakers have a lot of similarities, but the differ on philosophy. So while Skybreakers are about following the law to an absolute and dealing out punishment. The Windrunners are about protection, even protecting those they hate.

    The ideal of absolute protection is flawed within itself. It would require you to protect enemies from each other, taking things to the logical conclusion you would have to fight yourself. The Skybreakers have the same issue. If you follow the law no matter what, the question arises, whose law? That is what the Skybreakers openly deal with. The Windrunners will have to face the issue, too.

    7 hours ago, Vindo said:

    Often being able to protect someone that you hate involves some sort of forgiveness.

    THen it could have just said so in the third ideal and it has no connection to not wanting to protect some people.


  18. 17 hours ago, Weltall said:

    Hoid most certainly can heal, to the point that the only things he seems genuinely worried about are Nightblood and the Shards, specifically Odium. Brandon even pegged him as the person likely to survive to the end of a melee between all his characters,

    Heal himself, but others? Or use the other features of Progression?

    17 hours ago, Weltall said:

    Anyhow, since we don't know what Hoid's ultimate goal is it's difficult to say why he wants one given power over another, though with the caveat above it's safe to assume that he's going to be less interested in powers that can primarily/only be used to harm someone. But Lightweaving is known to be one of if not the first systems of magic he learned to use (non-canon though it is, Liar of Partinel suggests it was the first) and he's been unable to make full use of it for a time, so he wanted to get back to what he used to be able to do with it for whatever reason.

    True assuming he wants specifically Lightweaving, but why

    1. now?
    2. a spren, not a Honorblade
    3. or, if you go all in, why not Yelig-Nar?
    4. (assuming Ashyn magic is impossible for somebody with his healing factor)

    And why Lightweaving. Hoid is from Yolen, so he got Yolish Lightweaving first. But why improve on it specifically? Sentimentality?


  19. 11 hours ago, Kon-Tiki said:

    Furthermore, Lightweavers' Illusions are something he's specifically interested in, as it is a direct improvement over his preexisting Lightweaving. 

    Actually, that is odd. He can already lightweave, albeit badly. Why does he prefer improving an existing ability over gaining a new ability? It seems he cannot fly or heal or soulcast. So why lightweaving?


  20. On 8/14/2019 at 4:40 PM, Pathfinder said:

    That still doesn't change that Jasnah as per her character would not force marriage onto anyone, especially her beloved nephew. If Renarin does not want to marry someone, Jasnah is not going to make him. 

    She would not need to. We are talking about a man who quietly awaited his killer because he deemed himself corrupted. If Jasnah saw a political need, so would Renarin.


  21. 20 hours ago, Karger said:

    Vorinism is fine with gay people.  Only the oath matters.

    The problem is aristocracy, not Vorinism. Dynastic marriages include a rather primal motivation. You get your grandchildren onto or near the throne.


  22. 6 hours ago, Nightwaker.exe said:

    I saw tha king be a tyrant but didn't get any actual BAD vibes until the King killed the gal in the sewer and such. There were no true bad guys until the end, and those were specific people.

    Let's face it. If the king had defend his homeland using human and sacrifice and won, he would be celebrated. And as for forcing people to become peasants, what other choice did he have? Without Elantris there would have been starvation.