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  1. It is indeed extremely unlikely for all the Cosmere's languages to have no sounds not found in English. I think Kholin should be pronounced [xɔlɪn] or [xɔlin]
  2. No, they are not. Gravity still exists. The coin should fall down and then two allomancers have a coin below them and are pushing on it. In the case of two allomancers pushing something else must also happen. Yes, it is true that that weakens my argument. Something we do not understand is happening. Kelsier tells her not to get into a pushing duell unless she is firmly grounded. Hence they must exist.
  3. Yes. That tells us two things. Some strange interaction of their push is happening. The coin should actually be rammed into the ground. It is right between them. They are equally strong. A position right in the middle is compatible with every kind of decay.
  4. Why then doesn't tell Kelsier Vin that pushing duells don't make sense but tell her to get a firm grounding?
  5. Well, if you want to have a push duell to make sense, the pushed object must be able to reach one of the participants. For that to happen the point where the push of the weaker, defending party would be able to stop the pushed object would have to be inside his or her body or very close to it. If we assume the pushing duell to begin with an object at rest right between the allomancers (easiest assumption - it doesn't change much), the stronger allomancer will accelerate the object towards the weaker allomancer. However, as the distance towards the weaker allomancer is shrinking and the distance to the stronger allomancer is growing. As far as strength depends on distance the weaker one's push is growing stronger and the stronger one's push is growing weaker. If the influence of distance is large enough they will eventually grow equal. Now looking at your graphs they still have a change of a factor of two to three over sensible distances. Allomancers would have to be intrinsically very variable in strength to overcome that effect.
  6. Pushing duells make these calculations dubious. If the maximum force an allomancer can push with changes a lot over the distance he can push, there is always an equilibrium point between two allomancers. Hence almost all of the decay in maximum force must be close to maximum range.
  7. The really hard part is giving even a sensible formula for the maximum strength an allomancer can push with. In particular the relationship with distance is odd. For almost any physical influence we find that the strength drops off with the square off the distance. Allomancy clearly does not follow that rule. We have three observations hard to reconcile. pushing duells make sense pushing up at full power from a close anchor does not kill you pushing with full force against a close anchor pushes you up swiftly. there is a maximum height you can support yourself at from a given anchor and that is below the sensing range That means in effect that the force cannot drop off much until you get relatively close to maximum range. If it depended strongly on range, the weaker allomancer could push back anything as soon as it got close enough.
  8. The name is Alethi. The Alethi have their own script. It features 5 vowels. It has no indication of length, nasality or diphthongs. It would seems that the vowel system of that language is the basic five vowels without length distinction. Whoever transliterated it into the latin alphabet was not American or English (the J like /j/ thing). It also shows no sign of vowel reduction in unstressed syllables. Like Spanish in short. Hence the most likely answer to a question of how two vowels meeting each other are to be pronounced would be: separately in two syllables uninfluenced by each other
  9. Your model 1 seems correct. The allomancer determines a force. AFAICT your reason dismissing model #1 is flawed. Quoting your pdf: "This is the plainest explanation, but as poor Vin discovers, it is not a good fit, because that model decouples the Allomancer and the coin." Exactly. This is due to the normal force. It makes the second term go away. Which is exactly what is observed. As soon as the object an allomancer pushes against is securely anchored, it no longer matters. You are absolutely correct in complaining about the discontinuity. It arises from a model that assumes a full normal force as soon as the coin hits the ground. In reality there will be some deformation. But fundamentally if you introduce a new force (in form of the normal force) a discontinuity is not a problem. It is expected. But I think you are conflating two things. That the allomancer determines a force does not give him an arbitrary range of forces available. As far as we can tell, it certainly depends on choice of the allomancer (experienced allomancers can push weakly and all of them can flare their steel) inherent strength of the allomancer distance to the object pushed degree of investiture in the object pushed mass of the object pushed And maybe time is also a factor. Hence an allomancer determines (if he is trained well) a force between 0 and the upper limit given by factors 2) - 5)
  10. Did anybody share my instant feeling of revultion at the idea of snapshots? Like if switching one off is in effect mass murder and the horror of being shown a badge telling you that you are created to satisfy curiosity, doomed and meaningless?
  11. We saw transportation used in one of Dalinar's visions. The oathgates may just work so well, because they have an aiming point in form of each other, when they are operating.
  12. Now I have to protest. Are we discussing her ethics or her emotions and character? For the record, yes, I think her actions were justifiable. But you have to realize that this attitude is far from universal. Polls on the death penalty cannot be explained in any other way. Is it universal on Roshar? Clearly not, you could not explain Shallan's reaction, if that were the case. But, we have to look at the timing. It is unlikely that Jasnah is playing Batwoman (yes, I know, there are no bats on Roshar) every night and killing criminals unnoticed. No, she waited until the right moment to give Shallan a needed lesson. She coldly calculated those deaths. That she was , presumably, right to do so, does not alter the fact that she coldly calculated with the death of a few men (who had it coming). Again, that does not make her cold in other areas of life. It just makes her a killer in the way Navy captains of the 17th and 18th century hunting pirates and enemy ships were stone cold killers. Today that attitude is unusual among us (again: unusual, not unjustified - that is a different issue). Among Alethi, however, it is the cultural norm (probably still unusual - but the theoretical norm to strive for). And that is my main point. Attitudes are culturally influenced. You cannot conclude back from different interest and attitudes back to maturity or lack thereof by external benchmarks.
  13. The conversation between Jasnah and Shallan in the palanquin and later their quarters? Exactly. But not pity or revulsion for killing them. It was a mixture of disgust and hatred. Again I am not arguing for Jasnah being cool and unemotional. She cares for her family and hates some people for reasons as yet unknown. And then she kills them. Without remorse. At the risk of repeating myself I am not arguing for her being without emotion. I am arguing for her having alien attitudes and a mature character. Just a very different character.
  14. I am sorry, the way she dispatched the would-be robbers by soulcasting leaves no room for her caring about them. Unless you want to assume she enjoyed it, she must have had little to no emotional envolvement. Which is what by Alethi values is the ideal state. Killing an enemy is good. Seeking combat is good. If anything, you should enjoy this, if you were a good Alethi. It may be unfeminine, but it is basically virtuous. But I must apologize for being imprecise. I didn't intend to say that she is cold and without feeling in general. However, she cares about other things than would be normal for a western woman from our time. She cares about family and scholarship, not relationships. Which leads me to the point of emotional maturity. There is no objective state of emotional maturity. It depends on culture. We live in very unheroic times. We define maturity in terms of relationships. Caring about other people, building a stable relationship, finding somebody. That is not the way Alethi aristocrats are supposed to think. Their marriages are arranged. You do your duty. You seek to outwit other women. Jasnah is ready to fight in the face of likely death. She is mature. In Alethi terms. For the soldiers, yes. For their commanders, typically no. You made an example out of that city to discourage other potential rebels or enemies. Cold calculation using terror as a weapon.
  15. You can complain that your bicycle does not play classic rock radio and is therefore worse than your car, which can do that. Factually you'd be correct. Nevertheless the bike was not expected to and hence not designed to do that. Likewise Jasnah is a fictional character living in a fictional world. A world, which, if it is to have internal consistency, must have distinct values. Some of which we are given in the books. We could now judge characters by those values, as far as we can deduce them. Or we pick our own, for no logical reason at all. Now we read that in that fictional world, fathers or brothers negotiate marriage contracts for female relatives. Should we really expect a mature woman in such a setting to expect emotional fulfilment from a romantic relationship? We also read about people plotting to kill each other all the time. Should we expect people in such a setting to expect to share our views on the sanctity of human life?