Harfyn

I think one of her ideals will be "I will bring order from chaos" - she said this multiple times throughout the book, it seems to be a major driver for her character, and it has the feel of a radiant oath to me. I also like the idea of her parallelling Dalinar's "I will bring men together" with "I will bring humans and spren together" or something in that vein.

Also - have we ever seen a full mistborn actually using all 16 metals? I think a radiant might be pulling ahead right now, but that's without knowing exactly how powerful the other metals can make a full mistborn. I think a full mistborn might have issues actually killing a radiant especially if living plate could block investiture draining, mostly because of how quickly radiants can heal and how much the plate blocks what a mistborn can do. (Does emotional allomancy work through plate? Can plate be pushed/pulled? I assume no because its too heavily invested)

Sja-Anat tells Odium she will give him the corrupted spren to signal Odium, and Renarin drops off the gemstones for her. I think that the "I'm sorry" could be because Renarin thought that drawing Odium's attention would get Taravangian killed... But it would also make sense for Renarin and Sja-Anat to have known what was going to happen and Renarin was apologizing for Leading T to take up such a hateful shard? Also - I do think that Taravangian will be better on some level because Rayse was about to be consumed by the power fully - Cultivation wanted to avoid Odium running rampant, a shard without a vessel would have been worse than a vessel that Cultivation already knows/understands.

Might also just be that the light isn't only emitting what is visible to human eyes - other shards could go further out of the visible light spectrum than hyperviolet. I'd also agree with some others saying that it's unlikely Ruin and Preservation are each other's anti-lights. I think they are maybe as close as a shard could be to having that, though - like each of them might have a rhythm that is very close to the other's anti-rhythm/frequency/wavelength. What Vin is doing seems to me what almost any shard-attack would look like - each shard is "equal" and infinite, so a direct attack will cause annihilation of both. (though, that idea makes me wonder how odium splintered Aona + Skai 1 vs 2)

I really like the idea that BAM was the "spren of spren" before Odium arrived and unmade them. Some other interesting notes - the Sibling told ... someone (probably Navani but I cant find the quote) that they had pulled away from their bond right before/in the events leading up to the recreance - so they noticed what the radiants were planning and prepared by ending their bond before ending the bond would cause dead-eye-ness. Timeline: - A long long time ago, BAM is unmade by odium (maybe when he first arrives on Roshar/creates the fused? I wonder if this happens before or after spren originally left the singers I could see the unmaking being the thing that causes spren to leave the singers in the first place, but the timeline gets funky in the heraldic days) - BAM figures out how to offer forms + voidlight to singers, starts false desolation - Radiants start planning assault on BAM - Sibling ends bond with Melishi, tower starts functioning worse and worse - Melishi takes a Dawnshard ("Taking the Dawnshard, known to bind any creature voidish or mortal, he crawled up the steps crafted for Heralds, ten strides tall apiece, toward the grand temple above.") and a perfect gem to wherever BAM was, and imprisons them. Important note also - "the steps crafted for Heralds, ten strides tall apiece" sounds a lot like a description of Urithiru in physical or cognitive realm. (map of Shadesmar calls cog-Urithiru "Nohadon's Stairways") - Recreance happens/Honor dies/Deadeyes ARE Is this even right? The last step is definitely the muddiest - did imprisoning BAM lead to Honor dying? Or did the Recreance lead to honor dying? OR is his death the reason these things were able to happen? Was the Dawnshard involved in his 'death' or just BAM's imprisonment?

Oh that'd be very cool - which... makes me curious if the hybrid lights will cause different effects in the surges that use them... or if they just have different physical/spiritual properties that determine WHO can use them. It might make sense to use voidlight/warlight for anyone who can use it since it leaks slower than stormlight, but only if your surge doesn't also work differently. (though maybe you want to avoid having the emotional effects of voidlight?)

Oh yeah Riah is almost certainly a deadeye - but I wonder what would happen if Leshwi found the blade or went into Shadesmar to see the body. I feel like they'd have a fairly strong connection to start the same process Maya is currently undergoing with Adolin. Which, admittedly is completely new and I don't know if Leshwi and Riah would qualify, but would be cool to see. A lot of what happens after that will depend on things that will probably get explored in the next book with both Adolin and Shallan being very connected to deadeyes (for different reasons).

Good call - I like the idea of there having been a pre-nahel bond between dawnsingers and spren - Maybe this was what the Radiant oaths were modeled after? (or maybe they are more of a modification - oaths have more safeties in place to prevent "the bad surgebinding thing" from happening) Re: Leshwi having access to Odium's investiture, I think Brandon has confirmed via WOB that a shard can't choose to turn off their magic system for a particular person - its a law of nature at that point. So I think Leshwi would need to do something that would put her more in his power to actually be affected. Like once she dies, he will have power over her again, but until then she still has access to any powers she normally would.

A windrunner? So - when Venli tells/shows Leshwi that she is a Radiant, Leshwi asks if she knew an Honorspren. To me, this brought together a lot of why Leshwi was so connected with the Windrunners - its not just that the Heavenly Ones are the most analogous to Windrunners, but that they were ANCIENT Windrunners - before spren chose humans. I think that Leshwi is going to be our key to discovering what the Dawnsingers did to lose sprens' trust. My guess is that there was some... recreance-lite that happened with the Dawnsingers, but I haven't fully worked out what that timeline would be. This might be why there is only one "generation" of fused - they are the original dawnsinger radiants - that Odium chose due to their unique connections to the surges/spren. And the fused were willing to help because they had just been abandoned by their spren for... some reason. (or maybe not why, but these events feel like they could/should be connected to me - they could have the same cause, maybe) Were Dawnsingers true "Radiants"? Or did they just form another type of bond with those spren? Will Leshwi revive her old Honorspren and become a heavenly one-windrunner? (along the same lines as Venli's dual willshaper/envoy form powers) I need to do a re-read to find more details that support this (and try to find clues of why spren left singers in the first place), but wanted to bring it up here to see what other people thought.

I've kinda been operating under the assumption that Devotion was the closest we were going to get to "love" or an opposite to Odium - not totally sure about that, but in my head that is one of the reasons Rayse went after Aona and Skai first - splinter/shatter your opposite because it could become the most powerful weapon against you - that sorta thing. Don't think we know enough about devotion to know that fully though - but to me it's the closest of the shards we know to covering "Godly Love" whereas Odium is "Godly Hate/fury"

He was much more sane than I was expecting for sure - I loved the big insights he gives Shallan. I wonder if living in the cognitive realm helps prevent "Heraldic-Mind-Decay" or maybe living there means he's less impacted by it/has reverted to a better state? In any case, I found his... lucidity surprising... though maybe that could also be because Shallan swore a truth in front of him? Also on a grand scale it's so much fun to come back to our very first POV character just as a "where are they now" kinda thing. Gives me some nostalgia for when I first started reading and thought Kalak would be the protagonist

Could be some bondsmith Connection shenanigans - connect self to spiritual realm and other combatants, and maybe you can see those combatants in the spiritual realm/see a bit ahead of where they will be. BUT - I read that scene as just that Ishar is WAY beyond the level of any mortal fighter. He's fought and killed more random mortals than any non-immortal on Roshar, most likely. The heralds level of combat experience is multiple orders of magnitude greater than that of anyone they fight, so they can just use that + their supernatural conditioning to predict and act. Think if someone like Kaladin spent an extra 3000 years JUST fighting and teaching others to fight - I think Brandon wants us to understand that even WITHOUT their Herald powers, the Heralds are terrifying because of the immense amount of practice they've gotten.

Wait - does the sun circle Roshar? I'm like 90% sure it's the other way around. This feels like it might be Brandon being cheeky or something - Moash knew Kal can't be killed, sure as he knew... some other things that he doesn't actually have the level of understanding to know. I don't think this is evidence against the theory because there's DEFINITELY something weird going on with Kal and Honor. My guess is that he can die, but the result of his death will not be exactly what was expected.

This is a nice point - information would be Connection, which is one of the Bondsmith's biggest abilities (spritual adhesion). So the Stormfather-bondsmith resonances would be related to what connection to the Stormfather could offer radiant orders, maybe.

My roommate had an interesting idea here - he was leaning toward Mraize or Iyatil and that they did it with a blowgun. Iyatil is proven to be very stealthy, so I could see there having been some hiding spot that would allow her to get off a single blowgun needle. I'd still vote for formless/Ishnah as the most likely, but could be a nice twist.