The Grumpy Elantrian

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  1. Is it possible for one of the fused to bond a radiant spren and become radiant? My main difficulty in answering this question for myself is a lack of underatanding of how the fused take over the body of the singer. When replacing the singer's soul does the fused accompany the gem heart? I originally thought this to be the case as the form of the fused is different, and singer forms are changed by spren in the gemheart. If this is how it indeed works, would not a fused be able to bond a spren as a radiant might? Surely there are ample cracks in their soul for the spren to fill as the more they resurrect the more their soul deteriorates. So surely a spren who hates humanity and wants to help the opposing side could bond a fused. Or perhaps even a fused who changes sides to fight for the humans could bond a radiant spren. Either way I'd like to hear what you all think regarding the possibility of such a bond.
  2. @Calderis I think you're probably right. And whilst it is certainly unlikely that any fused would behave in a way to attract a spren, I don't see it as impossible. I always imagined the fused as a people who harboured thousands of years of hatred towards a people group who took from them their entire planet. I saw their insanity as a result of their repeated resurrection. But I never saw them as pure beings of evil. I think it still possible that a fused would be able to change their mind on the matter. Of course they probably couldn't really forgive the humans, but I'm sure they could see that odium may not have their best interest at heart and decide they should help to defeat him.
  3. Yeah the Heralds are definitely able to bond spren, Nale has reached the fifth ideal of the skybreakers. Yeah I'd guess that the biggest issue would be conflicting investitures. That's why I mention sja anat, perhaps she could corupt either the spren with odious investiture (like Glys) or perhaps corrupt the fused with honorous/cultivative investiture, depending on what she can do once she switches sides.
  4. Yes I'm aware that the former singer dies, but how does the cognitive shadow of the ancient singer inhabit the singer? And then depending on how they do this, would it not be possible for a fused who has changed sides (possible surely since sja anat is changing sides) to bond with a spren? I'd be interested to see how their powers are affected. Perhaps they would require some form of corruption to allow the bond to work properly.
  5. So as we have seen in Elantris (and as was discussed by Raoden) it doesn't matter what an Aon is inscribed in, as long as it is inscribed correctly (Aons in stone walls, mud, etc). So, would it be possible to create armour consisting of plates inscribed with Aons which provide protection to make said armour stronger? I can't remember the Aon, but in Raoden's fight with Dilaf we see him use one that pushes back against any force equally. If this were applied to a piece of armour, no matter how hard your enemy struck the armour, it would resist with equal force, effectively making it unbreakable (unless you are a Dahkor monk or such that can remove Aons). Is this plausible? I welcome your thoughts.
  6. So, AonDor functions, on an essential level, by creating a gateway (Aon) through which the Dor (trapped in the cognitive realm) may pass into the physical realm. The Dor, is a result of the splintered remains of devotion and dominion being crammed into the cognitive realm. So, if one were to ascend and somehow reforge the splintered remains of the two shards, what impact would this have on AonDor and the other magic systems on Sel? Would it still be capable of functioning in at all the same way? If there is no Dor to be channelled, then what's the point in AonDor? Would the ascended vessel be able to provide a fuel source for AonDor? Or would the magics of Sel simply revert to their more primal form before the splintering of the shards? If this is the case, what would happen to Elantris and the Elantrians? Or the Dakhor monks? Etc. Well, thanks in advance for your input.
  7. What would be the effect of a mistborn burning a piece of metal with hemalurgic charge? I have a few thoughts on what may happen and welcome some more. My theories are as of yet: 1. Nothing new will happen as you have too conflicting magic system interacting. The metal would still be able to produce it's allomantic effects, but the hemalurgic charge would not add anything as the two systems are diametrically opposed. Perhaps the hemalurgic charge could even interfere with the allomancy in some way and lessen it's effectiveness? 2. Burning metal with a hemalurgic charge will recieve an increase of the power stored, similar to compounding. This could take several forms I suppose. The allomancer's allomancy could become more potent (although I doubt that because of point one). It could somehow amplify the hemalurgic charge, fuelling the hemalurgy with allomancy, again as seen in compounding. (I don't like this one as much because I don't really see it working.) 3. The hemalurgic charge is applied to the allomancer. This one is weird but I thought that perhaps burning the charged metal kind of exposed your spirit web and allowed the patch of someone elses spirit web to latch onto yours. This one is really weird and I'm not sure if it would even work. But if it does then that'd be an interesting way to get around stabbing spikes into your body. You would of course still experience the effect of hemalurgy, just without the metal spikes. This may also face issues when it comes to where it attaches to your soul, because it may attach randomly and result in incorrect placement. 4. When burning the hemalurgically charged metal, the fragment of the spirit web stored is released to return to the rest of the soul wherever that may be (likely beyond). So they're my thoughts, I am curious to see what you guys think.
  8. I've only recently finished Elantris and am quite interested in the Elantrian magic system and so have been developing a character for fun. However, if I wish to worldhop as said Elantrian character (who wouldn't if they could) I face the slight disadvantage of being away from Elantris and, oh I don't know, the magic not working. So the crux of my inquiry is, is it possible to somehow capture or store the Dor in some sort of vessel to carry around with you in your adventures? Would these be nicrosilminds? Spheres? Some other Thing™? I do hope it's possible, otherwise Elantrians prove to be pretty worthless worldhoppers.
  9. What would happen if a kandra were to burn a lerasium bead? We know that when they consume a body they don't gain their allomantic abilities. But if one were to burn lerasium would their spirit web be changed to make them a mistborn? If this were to be combined with what kandra can already do with their malleable bodies, and their blessings, then I imagine you'd have an incredibly effective assassin.
  10. So quite simply, my question is would a gold compounder be able to survive having their central nervous system severed by a shardblade? We know that gold healing is fundamentally the same as all healing in the cosmere, and so if stormlight can heal a shardblade wound then so can gold feruchemy. But we also know that gold compounders can heal from basically any wound as long as they have access to their metalminds. So would they be able to heal from a normally mortal wound from a shardblade? Or is that a special exception?
  11. But can someone with stormlight survive a severing of their central nervous system? I was under the impression that stormlight healed at too slow a rate to heal such a wound.
  12. Ishek hesitated. He knew nothing of this man and was not going to gove away information that could jeopardise his new friends. Well, at least not Laonin. "A friend of the owner. These are other friends of the owner. Who are you?" Ishek's voice was terse as always, no point being friendly to the man if he didn't know him.
  13. "I'm no blacksmith" came Ishek's terse reply. "The forger is on some errand, I cannot help you as where to find him" Even if I did Ishek thought to himself I'd hardly tell a stranger. With that Ishek waited for the mans response, hoping more that he'd leave himself and Veil alone, but he knew that was probably not going to happen.
  14. Roused by the sound after wuite some time of silence, Ishek was sonewhat startled by the voice. "In here" he called out, not bothered to move from his position.
  15. The honorblades are basically Honor's god metal, a condensed aspect of his essence in solid form. If an allomancer were to somehow consume an honorblade, or part of one (a hypothetical situation as I'm not sure it'd be possible) would they be able to burn it and achieve an affect from the metal? If so, I find it interesting that perhaps burning part of Tanavast's power, an allomancer would gain access to the surges in some way? I welcome your thoughts on the matter.
  16. That makes sense, thanks for your input. @Calderis
  17. So it would be corrupted investiture? (Corrupted in cosmere terms not our meaning)
  18. Is there anything aside from conjecture to support the idea that investitures of different shardic origins can't interact in such a way? The only real case of investitures interacting is with Zahel and fueling his Returnedness with stormlight rather than biochroma. I don't know if that comes close to what you'd be trying to do by compounding the Dor but it at least attempts to illustrate my point. i.e: do we know that it's an issue trying to fuel one investiture with another?
  19. I've hust come back to this and were wondering about ways to enhance my character. I accepted the theory you proposed @I think I am here. where you store some of the door in a nicrosilmind. I then considered that a way you may be able to avoid having to return to Sel may be compounding the Dor in your nicrosilmind. i.e. Storing the door in a nicrosilmind and then burning the metalmind to increase the amount if the Dor. This would require both nicrosil feruchemy and allomancy, but that's a small matter. My question is whether the Dor would actually be able to be compounded. I don't see a reason it shouldn't be able to as you aren't doing anything different to regular compounding. Storing investiture in a piece of metal then burning the metal to amplify the investiture stored there in. So I don't see an obvious reason as to why it wouldn't work, but I welcome your opinion.
  20. We know that humans from the Rosharan system came to Roshar from Ashyn. When they did so, they brought odium with them. They also brought surgebinding, as mentioned in the Aila Stele. But radiants and surgebinders as we saw them are a result of bonding spren of honour and cultivation, where the fused utilise voidbinding by bonding with spren of odium. So basically, would it not make sense that surgebinders on Ashyn were more like the fused in that they use voidlight and voidbinding as granted them by odium? This would then discount concerns about radiants destroying roshar because it's surgebinding granted by powers not prone to deatruction as odium is. I welcome any input.
  21. @Karnatheon @King Taravangian