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Ok, so I'm trying to wrap my head around how fabrials, spesifically conjoiners work. To look at spanreeds, I understand that each twist or notch ,probably puts it in contact with a different metal, makes sense, but I'm not sure what metals those would be. Now at first I figured it was Peter with a gravitation spren, but since most conjoiners are Ruby's with flame spren I assume this is not the case, so what metals cuase a conjoiner to flash, move and recive? My second question is how kaladin "glove that flies" , I get that aluminum,can prevent a plane or vector from being transmitted, but I'm not sure how that allows for translating one force vector into another, specifically "down" into wherever kaladin points" Thirdly painrials what are they, I thought it was a tazer, but apparently it supresses pain and can have it polarity changed by steel and iron rather than zinc or brass, so can someone explain that? Also I'm a second year physics student so dont hold back if the answer needs to get technical

My best guess? His arrivals on Sel, Roshar and Scadrial were during a point in time when the active shards were in some way indisposed, like waiting for someone to go on holiday before breaking into their house

So I was listing to the Overlady reads and they mention a box the Set used to communicate, assuming it was some kind of radio But then I thought, a metal box that transmits voices? We've seen that before, specifically on Roshar, used by the ghostbloods to communicate with Shallan I checked it out (end of chapter 16 and beginning of chapter 17) and sure eanough a mid sized cube that produces voices! I'm not sure what to do with this information nesiseserly but it implies to me some connection between the set and the ghostbloods and perhaps the source of there knowledge of hemalurgy, given Thaidakars nature XD That's basically it, I leave it to you arcanists to make sense of this information and any hints it might bring or tell me its just a radio Either way, please let me know if I'm onto something or not.

This might have been asked elsewhere but is there a way to undo sja-asnat corruption/let the oathgate transport people to kholinar again?

Can the Lightweaver who created an illusion of shadesmar in the elsecaller quarters please dispel it three of them have already gotten lost looking for a door that exists in another realm.

OMG this is amazing

The shard of Ambition was mortally wounded there

damnation, didn't think about the spren, kinda voids my whole argument Oh well guess I was wrong

Sorry, new to forums could you sen a link?

Stormlight is raw investiture and there for can be fueled by any of the "More advanced " forms

Thats literally what a shardblade does, its why people eyes burn when u kil them with it

What I mean is that what makes surgebinding so god is that you can use it anywhere gain a one shot kill partial invulnerability and a one shot kill Also metal n mistborn acts as a filter that lets investiture in from the spiritual realm to create an a effect, that effect wouldn't happen if it was raw investiture i.e stormlight but the investiture let in by allomancy could fuel surges

Beheading sure , having your soul seperated however is a slightly dififfrent story Fair enough but but in mind what im saying is that wax could be the shardbearer and fuel his surges through allomancy but allomancy could not be fueled by stormlight

What im trying to say is that any surgebinding is probably the most powerfull form of investiture as it can be used basicaly anywhere like allomancy and hemalurgy but has mutch larger 1 hit potential and the only pre-requisite is obeying a certain oath, rather than a genetic component

Fair enough, but Then I doubt a fullborn could heal from that either meaning and it means that shardblades are even more deadly that I previously stated so that kind of proves my point

but to do so they would need to become a radiant they don't absorb storm light to do allomany the just open a pathway for investiture and surge could be powered by that but allomancy couldn't be powered stormlight I'm not saying that Kaladin could go do it anywhere i'm saying that surgebinding is incredibly powerfull as a mistborn could use it or a returend or and elantrian

What metal would they use? (dont know that mutch mistborn) but im pretty sure plate and blade + surges could get them close enough to get a kill shot and they could use gold to recover cuase similar to surgebinder unless you have stormlight currently inside you / burning gold its a 1 hit K.O

Actually they can I think Ivory said that unless the entire brain is turned to paste in an instant then the can heal back from anything (This is cuase they still have an ideal self even moving coins around in the brain wouldn't be eanogh) as to the lack of stormlight on scandrial probably yeah

They say it travels with the high storm thats why Dalinar when bonded to the stromfather could summon it and why it has never been done before (Stormfather is the last remenants of honour meaning that he is the highest concentration of the shard honour) And raw investiture comes out of all perpendicularity unless specifically shaped and if hour is dead I doubt it is.

I can see where you come from with most of your argument but this bit always annoys me whenever it comes up The way I see it the surgebinder can outlast the atium user becuase it will run out before the storm light does and before anyone says that a shot to the head will kill them remember that shallan took a crossbow bolt through the centre of her face into her brain then pulled it out no questions asked.

Ok, So you've read the title and you know what this is about, feel free to criticise So first thing is that stormlight is basically raw investiture and I have some reasons for this . 1.So from what we know stormlight is only called that because it comes from storms which we know is Honor's perpendicularity so investiture comes out and gets trapped in gems. 2.We have WoB that allomancy which basically uses metal as a filter to get a certain result (e.g white light through a red film to get red light) however WoB Lift says that uses calories or other biological material which the way I see it has no relation to investiture like metal and the way I see it means that it doesn't filter investiture meaning that raw investiture is moved into lift's body which would make sence if its the only way she can access to stormlight (we have WoB on that to) then it would have to be the same kind of investiture as the other radiants. 3. Breaths are something given by Endowment and whilst made of investiture the best way I can visualise it is that it is block a certain sized block of ice whilst normal investiture is like water both made of the same stuff but still different. Which would make sence as breaths are given by endowment (Originally) whilst stormlight is only shaped and used after inside the surge-binders body. This would also make sence as (WoB said) is on Roshar to get breaths easly but has not figured how to use stormlight to fuel awakening/ make breaths yet and WoB also says you can use breaths to fuel surgebinding if you can actually transfer it. Which fits the analogy people can metabolise ice into water and if they couldn't it it would still melt but freezing water can't be done Second is that shardblades (Considering they cut the soul) can kill almost anything and I will list them now. 1. Awakened object below IV 2. Awakeners/Returned (Breaths are basically fancy soul glue which a shard blade could cut) 2. Elentrians(sever connection with AonDor) 3 Shades 4 Shadows (The big things from Sixth of the dusk cuase a nick would still sever the soul) 5.Fused(They re-incarnate but still..) Conclusion: Surgebinders can get there power anywhere investiture is preset and kill anything with there blade and if they have plate the chances of you taking them down in a 1 hit K.O or just fast enough stop you cutting you are slim to none (And as an aside one of them basically made the well of Ascension/The Pits of Hathsin/The Pool by just clapping their hands once ,so you know match that with a steel push)

Nah, its fine just observing

So my intro became a "Is shallan bi" shipping war kwl

Thank you

Sigzil Thanks I've ordered both but I live in south africa so deliverys take a while. Also how does reputation and those title thing work?