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  1. It should be noted, that while we don't know if a Dawnshard was involved in the Oathpact, it was used to bring humans to Roshar, and Ishar was involved in that as well.
  2. Something to consider, Taravangian has found a loophole on screen during his math testing in Oathbringer. Realizes he can't be deemed too smart to be dangerous if he simply doesn't answer the questions.
  3. I wouldn't say it's nothing. Closing down an avenue of theories means more time can be spent one ones that still have plausibility. I have seen several involving Honor being absorbed into either Cult or Odium and making a new Dual Shard. I've even seen some triple Shard theories. This simply sets the maximum power level of the remaining Shards of Roshar to be less than Harmony Personally, I think you're right about the front 5 needing to reforge Honor in some capacity. The planet needs its Tones. Shai also seems to talk about Odium in the past tense when telling Merasi about how the Shard liked destroying the others as it's strategy. Might hint towards it's Intent and name shifting from having whatever was left of Honor mixed in.
  4. Era 2 of Mistborn takes place in the time between books 5 and 6 of SA.
  5. So, I'm on a relisten of TLM, made it to Shai's first convo with Merasi. There's a point in this conversation where Shai explicitly states that Harmony, holding two Shards, is the most invest being in the Cosmere. This from the Ghostbloods, who were present on Roshar during the books. They would know for certain if another Shard was combined there. At the most, we will have two 1.5xShards. Cult + Honor and Odium + Honor.
  6. This is mostly a jumble of random speculation on the mysterious BAM. One of the biggest problems with Mishram, regardless of who she was before being Unmade, is that Odium's spren don't have access to Adhesion. How could she Connect with all the Singers without Adhesion? The obvious solutions seems to be the Dawnshard we believe exists, some form of Unite / Bind / Connect command. She was pure Investiture, would likely have been able to make use of it in some way. Could have gone to Cultivation claiming to want to connect with everyone, ended up meaning only Singers. Wanted to give them their world back, free of Shards and Humans. Pure speculation. Alternatively, she gained a Splinter of Honor when he died, less than Stormfather as its stated he got the biggest piece, but still enough to ascend. Next, I've seen a few times the question of a person bonding multiple Spren, but the Oathpact, and likely BAM, seem to be a reversal. One being of pure investiture bonding multiple individuals. Normally, an Odium spren fills their gemhearts and gives them forms. This time, she did it directly.The Bond changes and becomes part of their Spirit Web, which in turn changes their Spiritual DNA. In the case of the Singers, a huge portion of that was ripped out and left a void when BAM was imprisoned, leaving them docile. For the Heralds, Honor being Splintered and dying a slow death would have been a special kind of torture. The magical-madness inducing kind of Spiritual torture. I feel like this would be similar to a Hemalurgic spike being dragged across your Spirit web for a millenia. As for who BAM was, or why she had a huge impact, the best theory I've seen is that she was the Elder Sibling. The original bridge between Singers and Spren, much like Urithiru is the bridge between men and Spren. Even that feels lacking in some ways. Why would her disappearance effect humans if she was a Singer bridge. Feels more like she has to be the Mother of Spren or some such to have as wide reaching impact as she did. Rosharan Zeitgeist come to life? The soul of the World Greatshell? Finally, why does Thaidakar want her? Because she can repair Spiritual damage? Rebuild broken Connections? Would make sense if she had the Dawnshard. He wants to democratize Invested Arts and she gave Forms to an entire species, that alone could be reason enough.
  7. Interesting. I suppose that makes sense. I figured with them being Radiant Spren there had to be something. SP 3 Thanks for answering so many of my questions
  8. We know for a fact that the Davar Soulcaster was real. We also know that Soulcasters are Spren, like Shardblades. Furthermore, Deadspren blades cause Radiants to hear screaming when touched. Why then, does Jasnah not hear screaming after Shallan swaps them out? Is being broken enough? Are they un-bonded Radiant Spren, thus not deadeyes, but somehow still stuck in that form? Are we missing too many pieces to figure this out?
  9. So, either they found a loophole to the 9th heightening problem, or Nalthis has a lot more access to Breaths than before. Guess it could just be a matter of generations compounding Breaths over a long time.
  10. So awakening does require an expenditure of breath over longer periods of time, explains the lack of brooms perpetually sweeping like its Fantasia.... that said, i feel like that means the gemstone would simply be a battery. Allow the awakened device to function longer.... Circuits are typically copper or gold, does that mean they're awakening metal?
  11. I guess I was thinking of Fabrials on a more cosmere sense, just a mechanical use of investiture. The coins on Scadrial's would be considered fabrials iirc. I more or less mean using a perfect gemstone to keep the investiture from leaking away from the object. My thought process was kind of along the lines of them adding gems to deadblades and it becoming part of them. If the gem is part of the overall construct, would it be considered a single entity that could be awakened via the gemstone? I guess this is the line of thought I'm working through. The Sibling is a living fabrial from my understanding. Unless it was more of a reversal and the city is just the Sibling's physical world manifestation rather than an object created and infused with Honor and Cult that then became sentient. Doesn't necessarily need a command, but it would fall under the same classification as NB, imo. Sanderson saying it can be done through mechanical means is why I'm hesitant to disregard the idea completely.
  12. So, there are a few WoBs that Stormlight, or any investiture really, can be used for awakening. The big problem comes from the lack of stickiness of non-Breath investiture. They leak away from whatever is infused. So, what if you set some gemstones in something, like armor, and then give it a Command while infusing the gemstones. Is there a reason it wouldn't work? Too simple of a solution? Am I misunderstanding how awakening works?
  13. Ingesting, this could be what's happening with the Heralds; becoming the Ten Fools. People on Roshar started thinking about foolish things the Heralds did, or maybe someone seeded the idea of the fools, and over 4000 years, that's what they became.
  14. Codnames definitely has something. Elantris was first chronologically, she would need some kind of help getting to this time. Iyatil having nothing strains credulity, though I will concede that we haven't seen anything on screen. She's the highest ranking member on Roshar (likely one of the highest in the organization) and comes from a nation/planet with guaranteed ways of getting the arts. I highly doubt Kel would send her off-world with such a task without something. They don't need to bring people into the Ghostbloods for simple stuff. They could just as easily hire mercenaries/specialists and not have to give up any of their secrets or risk exposing themselves. They've said that they're too small to operate in the open like that.
  15. Mraize has at least got an Aviar and Iyatil will have medallions at the bare minimum. The rest we didn't get a good enough look at to say any which way. It just seems strange to me that such a secretive group would invite people in unless they would be really useful. Also, iirc, the carriage gets burned to ashes in the middle of a downpour. This could easily be a clue they didn't use normal means. The whole Tanavast/Honor vs 'The one you call Almighty' thing really bothers me for some reason... like, it's always said that way. Even Odium refers to him that way. 'The one you call Almighty.' Are we just saying that the Almighty is Ado and people have simply given the incorrect name to Honor? Or that those in the know refer to him that way to point out that the person they're talking to is ignorant of mankind's real origins?
  16. I'm not saying ghostbloods have to bee invested individuals, I'm just saying that all confirmed members we've seen have been, except Kabsal. The Ado connection I could absolutely see. He did make this planet specially, gotta have some deeper connection to it.
  17. I just finished my third play-through of the WoK. My focus was trying to piece together the important 'big picture' stuff. First, we have Kabsal. The odd man out for Ghostbloods we've seen. Virtually every other one has had access to some sort of invested arts. Lin Davar may or may not have been a member, but his steward definitely was and had the Soulcaster fabrial. Kabsal however, just seems to be a random guy that's halfway decent at infiltration. Second, Tanavast... In Dalinar's last seen vision, his first, he sees a figure that claims to be the Almighty. The problem? He's wearing all gold and claimed to have created mankind. We know humanity wasn't created by Honor as the Roshar system was populated before him and Cultivation ever showed up. Gold is also Odium's color, Honor uses Vlue everywhere else. Why the gold, and why claim to have created mankind? I'm not saying it's Odium influencing things, but it doesn't seem like the Almighty either.
  18. So, I think we're forgetting that the KR shut the Oathgates and disbanded at the same time. After which, the one order that remained believed it was imperative they kill budding Radiants. So, I stand by my reasoning that they may have wanted to prevent someone from using the collective of Surgebinders in the same way Autonomy used the group of Allomancers. Yes, they'd have to bring a pool of raw investiture it would seem, but Roshar is brimming with raw investiture. It's part of why worldhoppers are interested in it. It may have even allowed Odium to backdoor the Oathpact
  19. Should also note, I don't belive the gemstones themselves are invested, merely capturing investiture. Putting a cage around it while imperfections in the gem allowing it to leak out
  20. I assumed each variation of spren, as well as the gemstones, were mixes of both honor and cultivation investiture to varying degrees, with a pure form of each as well. Which would basically make them all alloys of the two in metallurgical terms Pure cultivation gems could be the Emeralds, which is why they're used to grow food, for example. The crystalline matrix could change how the investiture reacts or can be used, similar to fabrial structures.
  21. This is true. My theory is differing behaviors of investiture in physical form depending on its state of matter. For example, we have Preservation. A Shard with two separate forms of physical investiture. Larasium and the Mists. Lerasium, solid Preservation, grants allomancy. The Mists, liquid Preservation, instead fuels allomancy. I believe the gemhearts are a third form, crystalline, which traps the gaseous form that raw investiture typically comes in.
  22. Overlord Jebus So you've previously described gemhearts as Investiture leaking into the Physical Realm in a similar kind of process to atium. Now atium had a way of-- the Investiture used in the creation of it-- of returning back to the kind of background pool of Investiture on Scadrial. Is there a way of the Investiture used in the creation of gemhearts to return to the Roshar Investiture pool? Brandon Sanderson Yes. Overlord Jebus There is? Have we had any hints of it at all? Brandon Sanderson Yes. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/256/#e8610 Given this WoB, would that imply that gemhearts are also a form of godmetal? The fact that soulcasters can't make them might be further evidence for this.
  23. Tbf, Shai also says there are systems where Autonomy has entire pantheons of gods that are all her avatars
  24. Ngl, I always pictured it as gold with hints of red through it. Like a pearlescent shine, not sure why I thought it was gold. But the rest of the construct stands. Would be a different metal is all. I just figured that it would be bavadinium since they're supposed to be the "bearers of the final metal" Or perhaps the trellium we've seen is an alloy of bavadinium. Atium from Era 1 was retconned to be alloyed with electrum because WoB is that anyone can burn any god metal, could be something similar. We also don't see anyone try to burn it, which kinda makes me curious what it would do to someone... Returned and Fused are just Cog Shadows stuck back in a body. Fused I could kinda see since we know almost nothing about how Odium keeps them from going to the beyond, but Returned survive off investiture and need a steady supply. Another random thought occurred to me too. A number 5. If the concentration of invested individuals creates an opportunity for a perpendicularity being opened, could that be part of the reason the KR were disbanded? Don't want a tower full of invested people creating a backdoor. Elantris had one near the city too. Maybe there's one around the Court of Gods?
  25. I'm not saying Autonomy's home world isn't more advanced than the systems we've seen, it likely is, just in other ways. If I had to create the MoRaG with what we've already seen, I think you could do it by starting with something like Kalad's Phantoms, drill a bunch of anchor points all over and attach Bavadinium plating. You're only awakening the phantom for 50 Breaths, but it's now immune to investiture. Give them guns like Nahz had in the broadsheats and they're likely the most deadly army around and completely under her control. Plus, she likes co-opting others magic systems so it would fit. Elantrians sound avatar-ish at least. Powered directly by the Dor. Sustains and powers them. They don't need to eat or sleep and it heals them. Just felt similar to me.
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