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  1. I think the pilot is the FTL. M-Bot says that the component is missing. The pilot is missing. Doomslug isn't missing. When Rig tells Spin that someone must have taken the hyperdrive device, she speculates that the old pilot took it. Irony. Yes, yes he did. He takes it everywhere he goes. The empty box is a red herring and a nod to the room at the PC that held the secret FTL communications device, guarded by some dude wtih a strange lever. The lever was a coffee machine and the guard was the FTL device. Gran-Gran-Gran (Gran-Gran's mother) was the engine. Spensa was the FTL. And the pilot before her was, too. Doomslug could possibly become M-Bot's FTL, too, but I don't think he has been before.
  2. Defending Elysium describes one of the primary alien lifeforms, the Varvax, as crablike creatures with exoskeletons but who were actually tiny creatures living inside nutrient baths in these exoskeletons. Varvax consume nutrient baths, but WoB says that they consume something else that would be extremely telling. My thought: mushrooms! Doomslug could be an alien creature who lived inside an exoskeleton until he crashed on Detritus and busted his exoskeleton open. M-Bot has been finding Doomslug mushrooms to survive on. And the "Krell" are actually Varvax, so while M-Bot isn't Krell, his passenger in the foldout jump seat was. Questions still remain. Who was M-Bot's pilot, other than his name of Commander Spears? What were Spears and Doomslug trying to accomplish? Will Doomslug be able to liaison with other Krell on Spensa's behalf or give Spensa vital info to escaping the Krell? If Doomslug were imprisoned in the same way that other Varvax in Defending Elysium were, no Sense or FTL would be possible at all - or at least that's my impression. The cytonic-suppression device would also likely never be able to cover an entire planet.
  3. Here are some more quotes I'm reviewing on the Varvax and their similarities to the Krell, and what that may or may not mean for Doomslug. From Page 503 of Skyward: And then from Defending Elysium, describing Sonn the Varvax: The murdered Varvax ambassador was described as a "burned carapace." From Page 255 of Skyward: So the Krell (creatures inside living crablike armor that is squat, squarish, and bulky) seem amazingly similar to Varvax (creatures floating in nutrient baths sealed within inorganic exoskeleton shells, also called carapaces). Knowing Brandon, I cannot think these similarities are coincidental. So, Skyward tells us several times that most burned out Krell ships are empty, which jives with what we learn at the end when Spensa discovers that the Krell are "prison guards who fly mostly unmanned drones." However, some Krell ships contain burned out armor with no bodies inside. Those nutrient baths could be consumed by the fires, but what about the creatures inside? Would there be nothing left? Is Doomslug the only one who survived?
  4. Thank you! I need to spend some Skyward time on the Arcanum... This one is pretty cool, too!
  5. In Defending Elysium, Faster Than Light (FTL) communication and transportation - and all of cytonics, really - were viewed by alien life forms as interchangeable with Primary Intelligence and Civilization. And later, near the end of Defending Elysium: So the aliens have assumed that a civilization must reach Primary Intelligence and a completely peaceful society before attaining FTL travel (cytonic hyperdrive). Both Jason and Spensa seem to prove this theory incorrect to a degree, though I am certain that M-Bot's cytonic hyperdrive would never have been engaged had the Battle of Alta not been won a decade before, allowing the clans to come together and Spensa to grow up with some civilization in Igneous. The primary mission of the Krell (Varvax? Tenasi? Those and more?) seems to be preventing humans from congregating in large enough groups to form a society and gain civilization because they know that this is the path to FTL. Pre-Battle of Alta, Spensa's dad (Pages 6 & 9) says, And then later, from the top brass (Page 95): And then the big reveal at the end (Page 509): So annihilating civilization without annihilating human race is the Krell goal because the Krell know that civilization leads to FTL. The Krell must suspect Spensa is close to FTL, as they suspected her father was, but Spensa indicated that they didn't know she could listen in on them and that they certainly didn't know she could FTL travel. The Defiants are far too uncivilized for FTL, yet, at least according to Varvax theory, and still, humans seem to be defying this law of reaching a peaceful civilization before achieving FTL. So this theory seems both partially right and partially wrong. I'm convinced Spensa's cytonics bloomed as a result of the Battle of Alta and Igneous's civilization, but Spensa is a far cry, even at the end of Skyward, from a peaceful person, and Defiants are a far cry from a peaceful civilization. So perhaps the aliens are wrong about what constitutes civilization. Is peace at all costs civilized? Are cytonic-stifling concentration camps civilized? Is what the Krell have done to the Defiants (bombing to scatter, making Defiants warmongers) civilized? My hope is that the Defiants will soon be undergoing an FM revolution, one that will raise them all to Primary Intelligence even if they aren't the same peaceful civilization the aliens insist must occur to reach that level. FM's philosophies on civilization are explored on Page 190: And as a bit of an aside but still related, Doomslug! That Doomslug FTL travels seems at least 90% certain given how she moves with lightning speed whenever Spensa's not looking. Aliens tell us that one must reach Primary Intelligence to obtain FTL, and so Doomslug appears to be a creature of Primary Intelligence. Dude!!! That would mean, at the very least, Doomslug is sapient. So is Doomslug Krell? I think that is a distinct possibility, but I definitely see her as friendly even if she is the enemy. The Varvax are "small creatures that floated in a nutrient bath sealed within their inorganic shells [enormous exoskeletens]," but what if Doomslug lost her exoskeleton? Could Varvax survive without these and their nutrient baths?
  6. She has read a lot of fantasy and a little of the same fantasy that I have, but she has unfortunately never read Sanderson. I've tried to bribe her with the awesome foreshadowing, which we both love. And recently I've tried bribing her with the Shardblades. She met her boyfriend when she joined a D&D group at her school. They were impressed with her complex backstories for weapons and characters, especially since it was her first time playing. Reading helped with that, of course. And so I told her that the Shardblades were crazy awesome and that she needed to become familiar with them. And Voidbringers. And spren. Everyone needs to read Sanderson.
  7. Our eldest started high school this year, started driving this month, and just got her first real boyfriend on Friday night, mere hours after I'd christened him her almost-boyfriend. So much growing up! Annie Pooh let me know that the new beau had been walking her to class, and I was all, but no touching, right? She said they had been hugging. At that point, I thought it was the perfect time to quote much of this chapter to her: And then I told her that I said all of that to say this, "NO MATING!" I told her I'd be saying that every time they hugged. And then this was the conversation: Do you have a favorite section of Oathbringer? Do you have a real-world application?
  8. Hi, @Yata. Here is the book evidence as I see it. Above, we have Urithiru sleeping. Dalinar conversing with the Stormfather: So the third sibling - or Sibling - is also slumbering, implying a connection to Urithiru and it's fabrial-like power. Here, we also know that we have three especially godlike spren: The Stormfather, the Nightwatcher, and a third "sibling" who is likely the Sibling. So one of the three Bondsmiths has to almost constantly be at Urithiru, probably due to the nature of the specific spren that this Bondsmith always bonds. So this quote heavily implies that the three Bondsmith spren are the Stormfather, the Nightwatcher, and the Sibling. If the Sibling is one of the Bondsmith spren, it is likely we will see the Sibling bonded to some Bondsmith by the end of the series. And from the Coppermind: Why Navani? Well, this evidence is more subjective. Jasnah might be equally knowledgeable of fabrials, of course, but the Soulcasting she does is all with a fake fabrial. And she recommends that Shallan's fabrial be fixed by Navani - not herself - when they get to the Shattered Plains, describing Navani as a renowned artifabrian. Jasnah isn't so much about binding folks together. And why would we want to tie an Elsecaller down to one single location, nullifying her Transportation surge, taking her out of the fighting, and keeping her from the Elsecaller task of hiding the perfect gems? Though one could theoretically bond more than one spren, it seems like the Sibling would cancel most of Ivory's benefits. In Navani's only chapter, Pieces of a Fabrial (Ch 96), we see Navani bringing together all of the leaders at Urithiru, designing their chair-carrying tradition so she could study them, listening to the others and constantly asking herself how she can bring order from this chaos. The entire chapter seems to support Navani as one who is growing into a lady who can bond people together. Here is a little bit: So Dalinar gathered but didn't form the coalition. Navani starts to do that herself in this chapter, particularly after this quote. I can't help but wonder if one of her oaths might be, I will bring order to the chaos. Lastly, from WoB: And then, as I said in the original post, we have Navani's chapter symbol as a fabrial whereas Jasnah's is Shadesmar, Shallan's is Pattern, Kal's is a cape in the wind (implying Windrunner), and Adolin's is himself and Maya. So many if not most chapter symbols relate to Order or spren somehow.
  9. theory

    I thought this was an interesting response, mostly because I would have expected something more like, "Damnation no!" Hmm.
  10. Ha! Thank you, Hoid. I think the fact that Sanderson said "mundane objects" (and placed these objects under such intense security) sent bells off in my head to pay attention to these ostensibly mundane things, since they probably weren't nearly as mundane as promised. And then comments about where the Jezrien knife came from (in the huge full reactions thread) and why they were suddenly able to kill Heralds made me go back to look at those "mundane" objects to see if there was a knife. And there was. I definitely could be wrong. I suspect that the sapphire pommel was added by Team Odium specifically with Jezrien in mind, perhaps because only his Order's gem would work on him. An ancient knife that possibly hadn't been used (or cleaned and polished much) for millennia might not look important enough to be in the inner vault with the King's Drop, especially without the pommel. Or they might not be the same knife.
  11. Or perhaps brilliant execution. I have a theory that the old knife mentioned to be in the innermost vault with the King's Drop might be the actual target of the heist: Because perhaps this is the same knife that turns up later in Moash's hands: And then we have this conversation between Venli and Odium: Some think the bane is Dalinar, but I think he's implying that this prize is something, not someone, and located in Thaylen City. That's why they came to Thaylen City. And I wouldn't call even the Blackthorn the bane of Roshar. There were many men more evil than he, even at the height of his evilness. The knife seemed to have sucked something out of Jezrien, his soul perhaps. And a soul-sucking knife seems truly evil indeed. Of course, it could be a spren or something else. But the sapphire (the gem specifically for Jes) is occupied by something.
  12. Yes! And the moment when Odium makes Dalinar relive killing Evi, the sound of her screams over and over, in his effort to break Dalinar completely. Dalinar relives all of that pain again, the most powerful pain I can imagine, and then he stands up and denies that pain to Odium. Almost immediately after taking responsibility and owning the pain, we get this moment: So he does get that forgiveness he was looking for, and he gets it from exactly the right one. Evi was quite filled with awesomeness, actually. I also adored this moment, after all of the disagreements they'd had over his violence, when he suspects that Evi poisoned their sons against him: The Renarin-Dalinar moment that @MonsterMetroid mentions is among my favorites, as well. And I would wholeheartedly agree with Monster's reread sentiment: these books are built to be better on the rereads than the original reads. So many things are placed in the slow Parts 1 through 3 that won't be slow at all after finishing OB. And then after reveals in the next couple of books, a few years down the line, we'll realize how dense the goodness is in these three parts because that's just how Sanderson writes. I was completely floored on my first Sanderson reread of WoK and WoR when prepping to read Oathbringer. I just had no idea how brilliant they were before that moment.
  13. One of the early descriptions of spheres in the Physical Realm reminds me of the glass beaded souls of objects that we have in the Cognitive Realm in the Shadesmar seas of glass beads: And then later in Shadesmar: I tend to think of Roshar currency as possibly being much larger gems stored physically in Shadesmar with only their glass bead soul representations showing up in Roshar. Or maybe not. But I don't think the resemblance of tiny glass beads and spheres is purely coincidental. And, if we do have the souls of gems in Roshar, I'd love to see these manifested back into the physical realm at some point.
  14. In the Words of Brandon, I've been noticing how often he talks about the Horneaters and Herdazians being kinned to the Parshendi, part-Parshendi. One fan asks why Horneaters can see spren, and Brandon answers by emphasizing the Parshendi bloodline that Horneaters have, implying that this is the reason Horneaters can see spren. So I'm wondering why Brandon created and emphasizes this relationship. Could it be possible that, especially with the Horneaters seeing spren, a Horneater could have a gemheart? And, if so, could they have different forms? That moment when Rock fires the Shardbow is so shocking to Kaladin that he wonders how that was even possible, even with Stormlight. When an author writes something like that, and especially when Sanderson does, that is usually an awesome clue that the reader should be wondering exactly the same thing. As his bridge leader, Kal should know Rock's strength pretty well. And so the implication is that something strange is going on in that scene (OB 1187).
  15. Stormlight supply and demand is what I meant. As the demand for Stormlight rises, so does the value of the infused gems. As each Highstorm renews the supply of Stormlight, demand falls as does the value of infused spheres relative to dun.