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  1. Definitely terrifying. i was quoting recent wob on shardcast the other day: But yes, we could def go down a morality rabbit hole that probably isn’t useful. :-)
  2. I think Odium has always going to be the "big bad" (or at least a major Big Bad), as the power, as Brandon says, of "god's rage unbound by morals" is a fearsome enemy. With Taravangian at the helm, it adds a more personal touch, we know him and we know that Dalinar knows him. It will surely cause a stir when it's known. I can't imagine how it would shake a world to find out first that your god (honor) is dead, then that there's ANOTHER god (Odium) who is very much alive and trying to destroy you, and THEN that THAT god has been replaced by a person you actually broke bread with! I'm sure it'll be something crazy. But I don't think it's going to change the trajectory of the cosmere so much as change some of the plot points we pass to get there, if that makes sense?
  3. I've seen that. I'm less sure that Unity is a DS because I think the "unity" idea seems encapsulated by the bondsmith purpose, but I do think there's something to the warm light thing. It's come up multiple times for a reason, I'm sure. a reason we probably won't learn about until book 9 or something. lol
  4. I don't see why He Who Quiets has to mean an assassin. Yes, Moash is given the name after he assassinates a Herald, but at that time, they may have thought it was merely entrapment (much as the GB do re: Shallan's mission). I don't think it's as important *which* name he's given but the fact that he's given *a* name at all. And the one available? One that was stripped from a human sympathizer. I'm sure Odium and the 9 found that to be a juicy little bit of ironic pettiness. I think the "they" gave your name to a human implies structure to the naming process, and Leshwi is not of high status enough to bestow such a name on her own. I'm sure she was instructed to do so if he showed his loyalty and fulfilled his mission. I wouldn't put it past Rayse to have done so with the express purpose of turning the knife (metaphorically lol) in "El" for his perceived treachery.
  5. I have def wondered about this. Is this just a matter of +/- investiture or the *source* of the investiture? Nightblood has consumed so very much investiture and so many different types...Honorblades are small splinters of Honor, and so are sapient spren (or cultivation, but still), so they seem equally matched. But Nightblood has investiture from endowment, honor, cultivation, etc. etc. by now. Does that matter?
  6. I would also say that Cultivation doesn't want to change people herself, she wants to encourage them to grow. To Cultivate them. Her "pruning" led to Dalinar's growth...though still a risk. Her intervention with Taravangian led to his growth, into a shard no less!, but was a risk. She is not risk averse but she doesn't change them into what she wants them to be herself. If Lift is indeed another tool she's unleashed with the hope that it will work out in her favor, she's hoping Lift will grow because of her "pruning" or interference, and doesn't really care what Lift asked for. The interlude confirms that Lift is growing from it, right? She's admitting to Wyndle what she wanted and why she wanted it and how hurt she is about it. She's setting herself up to understand herself better and grow into a stronger person. I think that's pretty consistent with the shard. I'll also concur with other stuff on this thread--Lift's wanting to cultivate others will probably be more attractive to the power than her own change. After all, cultivation is somewhat of a third party thing, to my mind. You cultivate OTHER things, not yourself so much. I wonder if there's a connection here to Wyndle and why he was chosen as her spren (e.g., he was a gardener, of chairs, right?) and the fact that he has not lost his memory as badly like most spren who agree to bond seem to have done when they enter the physical realm.
  7. So, in relation to the "Vyre as Avatar" convo, I am thinking of White Sand (I know, I know, but IT IS CANON, RIGHT): [white sand and mistborn spoilers] This would fit with the definition as we see it now, in some ways. If a human is identified as being particularly important to a shard, they can shape it and invest is as a tool, perhaps, creating an "avatar" of the power. So Vyre is using a word that he doesn't really know what it means (he's just repeating "avatar") where Rayse is thinking of the term as *we* see it, and is like, yeah, no, bro, you're not getting any real powers. ha!
  8. It’s kind of the plot to every Hallmark Holiday Movie: brilliant big city business woman retreats to the country and finds her true calling as wife and mother and small town wedding planner! (Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but I want the opposite: she finds that the whole small town really needs her brilliance and she becomes the mayor. Lol
  9. This is exactly it. I totally see it this way. Thank you. I was downright struck by Jasnah when she first appeared on the page. I do not see myself in Jasnah as much as you do; but she resonates as a parallel to so many “brilliant girlbosses” that I know but who don’t get the respect—even grudgingly—that she does. I’m a professor in a pretty male-dominated and masculine cultured part of academia, and have experienced all of the disdain that gets thrown at her, and have connected with so many other women professors who have gone through the same. ill also say that, for me, it’s striking to see a woman just be brilliant and competent and *end up taking charge like everyone knew she should.* there isn’t a moment where she’s caught crying over a man. There isn’t a moment where we find out she’s been raped and all of this is just a cover for her desire to be loved. There isn’t a moment where her intelligence fails her and she needs her merry band of misfits to help her save the day. Or a time where she realizes that she had it wrong the whole time and she was too arrogant to see it but a good hearted scoundrel showed her the way. (Not that I don’t love me a good hearted scoundrel lol.) She’s just her. And that authenticity is really refreshing to me. I haven’t seen as many of her type in fantasy. But even if I had, I’d still enjoy her. And I think the more we get her POV the more I’ll enjoy her. :-)
  10. Hmm. Yes she’s a conundrum, that one. looks like her actual words were: Which doesn’t preclude growth, obviously, but to become a vessel that the power would be attracted to, she’d have to embrace change more than she has thus far for sure. I am very interested in why cultivation gave her the ability to generate life light. Unless it was for this exact moment we saw: for her to stay her; when everything else was going wrong?
  11. Yeah I thought oath 4 would be letting people choose to whether they want to be protected, and it was letting go of those you failed to protect. So I’m thinking perhaps the accepting that people sometimes don’t need your protection, or don’t want it, is the last one. if the sky breakers is “become the law” it kind of fits the self awareness idea: trust your judgment. So perhaps it’s the: you have to know when to protect and when to not.
  12. Oh yes anxious! But I was also really engaged in the scientific process with them so very entertained. I was more anxious with the Ishar and Todium subplots though.
  13. This is what I supposed. They didn't know they would "die". They figured they'd return to the Cog realm, pained, but unbonded. They'd be able to discuss it with their fellow spren. But then everything when haywire.
  14. I can agree with the fact that she got realllll lucky. But it made for really exciting reading. lol
  15. So I see your point here, and as Rayse-Odium said: what she did changed everything. But I think the most likely scenario was going to be, Navani failed to figure it out in time, the humans lose the Tower, the Sibling is unmade, and the Radiants lose. Yes, "death" is now permanent in some ways. But Raboniel made a very important point--that they have to produce the light. They have to figure out how to do that. And it's not assured that they have that logistical ability among the Fused. Perhaps this is where the mysterious El comes in, but Rayse didn't exactly stack his army of Fused with scholars and engineers, and they haven't grown and changed since they became Fused, meaning their abilities are limited here. I also think it's uncharitable to say "Navani gave the enemy" that weapon. She gave it to her side too. It's an arms race, yes. And as it is with science, the ethics sometimes post-date the discoveries in very dangerous ways. She needs to reckon with that in Book 5, and I think she's more likely to do that as Bondsmith to the Sibling than if her only point of external wisdom was Perma-Warrior Dalinar.