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  1. Good point. I had forgotten that piece of lore. I do think it's interesting that *they were* light in a prior draft and now they aren't. Maybe we caught a hint that was edited once they rememberers the Kaladin thing?
  2. Yes, it's been continuitied out now: So he's not a Radiant...yet.
  3. Yes. I agree with this. I think that he has to accept that you can’t protect others from their own choices, which fits with the “take responsibility” theme—other people’s choices are not your responsibility. I speculated that his fourth oath will come in an attack on Urithiru when his father or Laral goes to sacrifice themselves or put themselves in danger and he has to let them go. And he learns not just to let them, but to be at peace with that choice. i think I’d describe it as “being at peace” more than forgiveness but I think that’s 6 of one, half dozen of another probably.
  4. I don't think it's useless. He knows she's always close because he always fights with her. But I think the whole Radiant think is probably fascinating to a Fused like Leshwi. They have never bonded a sapient spren, or interacted with one, probably. She might want to know just for herself and her curiosity about how it works. The Heralds are like her. The Radiants aren't. Alternatively, she wants to see Syl as part of a tactical strike?
  5. @Honorless yes, I like this theory. The Unmade do seem attracted to her--she connects to them and interacts with, what, three of them in OB?? As @The Traveller suggests, I wonder if they were safekeeping a perfect gem and she released it and its powers. Like (Harry Potter spoilers): But I also have wondered if it's not that she did something particularly heinous or dangerous, rather it's the remembering of it that she feels is dangerous, which may or may not be the case at all. Veil and Radiant remember. Shallan is trying not to because she thinks it will make her unlovable. It makes me wonder if it'll actually be somewhat anticlimactic in the reveal, just to demonstrate how effed up her trauma is--that yes she killed her parents, but what precipitated her trauma was more garden-variety, run-of-the-mill childhood trauma (e.g., maybe she's adopted and her birth family were addicts) or something she did as as a child led to a childhood friend or sibling dying (e.g., an older brother saved her but died in the process), and in her grief, Pattern found her? I don't know. It's fun to speculate!
  6. I'm excited that, in a few brief chapters, Brandon has almost told us more about Singer (and Fused!) cultures than we've had in three books thus far. Brandon also tends to tell stories of cultures with strict gendered roles and norms, which of course mirror many patriarchal civilizations. But in Fantasy, it's nice to see the "fantastical" turn toward gender and sex as well, and the Singers seems wholly uninterested in gender for the most part, trading that organizing paradigm for other hierarchies. It's refreshing. It will be interesting to see this pulled through to the differences among the Fused and among the Regal vs. old forms. How do they organize their world and their power?
  7. I mean, I don't know if I've ever read a war book, where they're in the heat of battle, and a character stops to consider the gender of the enemy they're facing on the other side. Granted, in most of these books the warriors are men (and most of the characters are men) so maybe it's just a given. But here, given the diversity of the fighters on all sides, it wouldn't stand out at all to have anyone of any gender on the battlefield. All hands on deck, so to speak.
  8. Good point. He probably doesn't. Nor would he care. But *we* know Leshwi is female. Alternatively, they've gathered intel on the main Fused. Regardless, it's an irrelevant detail. Let's not be all Vorin and weird about gender roles up in here. lol
  9. I think that's the thing. He's looking for one particular Fused. He sees her. He's probably fought her in half a dozen bodies. He knows it's her. It would be unrealistic to say "oh, hmm, she has a malen body now"...why? Also, maybe he doesn't care at all what gender someone is that he's fighting? Why would he pause to even care? Why would this be at all relevant to any interaction they had? Like...I can't even envision the relevancy of the observation. The relevancy of Venli pointing it out to us is Singer/Fused world building, and that's why it's discussed. But it's not relevant to *Kal*.
  10. And Venli makes it a point to note that this is a war based on vengeance, not justice--not anymore. I think for Leshwi to "change sides" or, rather, to envision a different ending to this war that doesn't involve genociding the humans, she'll need to not only feel connected to Kaladin in some way, but to become disillusioned by Odium's strategy. But we also have to remember that she is a cognitive shadow by Odium's power alone. If she is killed, and she has betrayed him, she will be dead-dead, I am guessing, unless she figures out some sort of workaround. Maybe Hoid will have some insights for her? ;-)
  11. @Lightspine yes, I think it's probably that she knows that Lezian will do whatever he has to do to attract and kill Kal now, so he won't be able to "play" with her in the skies, and will probably be killed. Her reaction here seems disappointed, but not too much so. She's obviously intrigued by him, but maybe even more so by his spren. I wonder if they know she is the "Ancient Daughter". I'm sure they must, given that the Fused probably captured and tortured the sailor Honorspren in Shadesmar. It may even be that one of the technological advances they are working on is a gem that works like the Fabrial science we are seeing that can attract and capture bonded Radiant spren when in the heat of battle?
  12. The Rhythm of Agony. Something has happened to really concern Leshwi! So the war taking a different turn. I assume that so far the war has been pretty traditional: battles over land and resources, refugees, battles in the air and on the ground. Here are my thoughts: 1. Maybe this new shift is Ba Ado Mishram's arrival/freedom (and @Chaos I literally typed "Bae" ado mishram in your honor and had to delete, so thanks for that lol). I wonder if, when she connects with singers/fused, she changes them? making even Leshwi concerned? Venli talked alot about how every form of power changes a Singer/Listener...that would change a path. 2. Alternatively, maybe the same contact who warns Navani has also warned Odium's side--they are an "interested" third party (think godspren? rogue unmade?) who is intervening in the war in a way that adds a new front and challenge? 3. odium is shifting his attack to be less traditional warfare (which privileges Leshwi's "heavenly ones") and is requiring more subterfuge and risk. she is going to be asked to infiltrate in ways that she is not comfortable with. maybe as a result of the fabrial being taken in Hearthstone? Or because Odium is using Moash to attack Urithiru from within and has infiltrated it--so they are all going to attack Urithiru directly?
  13. I mean...are there non-problematic SA characters? Characters who are morally unambiguous? I'd like to see them. I remember making the argument that Kal is terribly self-serving and petty for his treatment of Tarah and how he acted with her, and got blasted for it. Why? Because people identify with Kal! So they try to work themselves into understanding why he does what he does. Same with Dalinar and his warmongering. Which is great! It's one of the best things about reading. But the same should be used for Shallan. And it isn't always, imho. [Side note: I could probably write an essay on how the only female main viewpoint character of SA is also often the most vocally hated because she says mean things to people's fav guy, in her quest to navigate a crappy, patriarchal, bigoted culture (and, hey, hello look around at our culture...not that different, imo). "Sure, yeah, she's been through trauma, has been sheltered and raised in a horrific environment and never been taught differently, but she also says mean things about dark-eyes" is a take, I guess. Alethi culture is horrible. And she embodies some of that. But so does Kal. So does Adolin. So does Jasnah and all the Alethi characters. I just think we should be careful in who we allow to grow and who we try to understand.]
  14. I literally skip so many Bridge 4 and Kaladin chapters that I feel guilty and have to go back and re-read them. It's one reason I like re-reads, because then I can skip the Windrunner stuff. I don't find Kal nearly as compelling of a person or character as many do, which is fine. I have a hard time re-reading WoK because there's not enough Shallan for my liking, tbh. See--ppl are different!
  15. @robardin I was re-reading this chapter today (because hiding from my kids + procrastination from my real job is my favorite Saturday pastime), and I was thinking of this line: in reference to the reveal about the Recreance. I think it's possible that Leshwi's psychological warfare here is to try and remove the Windrunners from the battle by exploiting this potential advantage--that the Windrunners are (a) still uncomfortable with being the OG invaders, and (b) uncomfortable killing people who act with "Honor". If they can't destroy Kal (plan A is probably Moash) then they can exploit divides in the Radiants this way (plan B). Maybe this is something that she did leading up to the Recreance as well? Maybe she insinuated herself in with another young Windrunner that time has now forgotten--a leader of men--and made them re-think their oaths and what Honor meant, exploiting their goodness and leading to the Recreance itself? I mean, speculation and not exactly the most parsimonious of interpretations, but that line directly after Dalinar's scolding seems critical?