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I'm glad that someone else brought this up. I wonder if we will see Kaladin continue to be able to fight this well. I feel like this is a moment that showed that perhaps radiants could be on equal footing of the Heralds. We see Taln grabbing the darts out of the air, Nale grab an arrow out of the air, Ishar easily able to fight 5 windrunners at once. Clearly they have speed and reflex abilities that go beyond the average radiant or human. If wonder if Kaladin in this state would have been able to take on Heralds. I'm curious to see what comes of this in the future. Will Kaladin continue to be this fast? PS. The ripping off of Lezian's head was amazing and so satisfying. This is such an interesting use of the surge that we haven't seen before and I look forward to seeing Kaladin attempt to use this ability in battle in the future, probably less gruesomely, but still to perhaps disarm opponents or actually force them to move. Could Kaladin use adhesion to essentially pull a large group of people?

After completing this part I am terrified that I am going to get to the end of this book and find Kal still at the 3rd oath. I was also kind of peeved to find that our first experience of living shardplate was through Jasnah and it was seemingly nonchalant. I feel like I have been waiting so long for Kal's big 4th oath shardplate moment and we get this instead, a scene with Jasnah struggling to defeat a fused that we saw 3rd oath Kal kill in Oathbringer... crossing my fingers for something for substantial in Part 5 regarding Kal swearing oaths and getting a big plate scene that provides a smidge more excitement surrounding it.

Yeah everything for me still just says pre-order

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curses. Stupid Kobo is slower

I recall Brandon talking about writing a specific scene in this book that is a foundational scenes and one that he first imagined, as the book approaches I really wonder what this scene is and if as readers it will be obvious that this is the scene as we read the scene.

He summoned her as a spear. I would also imagine that this is the only desolation where the fused would ever have a chance to change their feelings about the human since in previous desolations the Fused would have been so limited in interacting with humans. I would imagine every encounter they have is just battles in which one or another is killed which would limit how they see each other. In this desolation there is a unique situation where Leshwi has had the ability to battle with Kaladin multiple times in which Kaladin has survived and likely killed her before, which gained some measure of respect for him. If Kaladin had died their first battle I'd assume this situation wouldn't have happened. Then clearly with Jezrien and Honor dead this impacts her opinion of him further. If anything the Fused hated the Heralds, who would be the original voidbringers themselves, and Honor, who betrayed the Fused for the humans as well. Kaladin appears to be someone from a different generation who isn't led by these individuals and seemingly fights for the same thing and the same reasons as Leshwi does. To fight for their world and the survival of their people. The situation in earlier chapters where Leshwi and Kaladin stop fighting and agree on the draw and then agree that Kaladin should go to the manor show a certain level of trust between them that would have been founded over various other fights. I think at this point Leshwi and the Heavenly Ones do fight with honor and care about it and this is a rare opportunity where they can actually interact multiple times with the same person and gain mutual respect. Therefore I think this is historically the only desolation where it makes sense that they could change. Chapter 11 makes me pretty positive Leshwi isn't attempting to trick Kaladin in any way, although its hard to know for sure considering the whole Moash situation. I would assume Leshwi is fully aware of Moash's connection to the Windrunners and has some measure of leadership over him.

Do we have a WoB about the fused becoming savants? I would imagine it would be quite different since they go to Braize and get new bodies, and would having a gemheart change things?

I'm thinking that the fused and regals have abilities that do not require voidlight. I think the best evidence we see of this is stormform which would throw lightning, and so far as we know and can tell, did not have access to voidlight. So I think that the fused would have similar abilities that are ingrained into their being through the gemheart that keeps their powers working.

She already did that with the oathgates technically. You are correct. Totally forgot about that.

Does anyone have an idea of how Sja-anat may impact fabrials? We saw in Oathbringer the issue with the screaming when investiture was used either by Kaladin or by fabrials (I always assumed this was due to Sja-anat's work). Is Sja-anat able to corrupt spren that are in gemstones and being used for fabrials? It is noted that the spren corrupted by her act strangely, however the spanreeds appear to continue working. Could she be used by either Odium, or perhaps if she changes sides, by the Radiants, to disrupt and sabotage the use of fabrials?

I agree, windspren are still around, even if he doesn't have is power, he still has his bond with Syl, no reason to suspect anything special. Maybe we will see this book if other Windrunners describe the same thing? I believe that the only fused he kills is the teleporting one. The other singers are simply war form.

"Repeated infliction of full paralysis. A clever way of dealing with an enemy who could heal. Kaladin’s Stormlight would run out quickly at this rate." I'm thinking that healing full paralysis takes a decent amount of stormlight to heal. Making Kaladin do this over and over is what will quickly win this fight for the fused. Kaladin otherwise may just hold the stormlight, not healing the paralysis, and survive far longer.

Could just be that they saw Windrunners and Kaladin is well known to Odium at this point. We don't know how many operations the other Windrunners have been going on. But its definitely not far fetched to say a spy was responsible. It's hard to see a situation where Odium didn't know about Fourth Bridge in the first place though. It's giant, why hasn't it been attacked before? Perhaps more reasoning why we find Moash there now, Odium is letting it happen.