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  1. Where did surge binding come from, and how was it accessed prior to the Honorblades and the nahel bond? I thought I remember magic systems are linked to the planets, and the while the shards can tweak the magic system in ways, their real influence is on how the system is accessed. I know Honor created the Honorblades, and that each gave access to two of the surges. I know the spren are mimicking what Honor did with the blades and access to the surges via the nahel bond. So was there surge binding on Roshar before Honor and Cultivation arrived, and they tweaked it when they invested in the planet? When Honor goes mad, he raves that the knights will destroy Roshar, just like they did Ashlyn. We know the original humans came from Ashlyn as refuges after some sort of cataclysm, and the assumption is that unbound surge binding led to the disaster. But how were the human on Ashlyn accessing surges if not through Honor, Honorblades, or nahel bonds? And why does the magic system we know about on Ashlyn at the moment seem totally different to surge binding (magic given based on disease)? All this leaves me confused. Where did surgebinding originate? How was it originally accessed? Anyone know?
  2. I’d like to see the shards recombined into Adonalosium. I don’t think the same consciousness would re-emerge, but it’s possible. I think of a Dark Crystal type situation. The shards merge back together to create unified god who explains my bad, I wanted to try out being split up so I let myself be killed. Now that I’m back I’ll restore the universe and then jet off the to spirit realm. I suspect Adolalosium planned/foresee their splitting. If a shard like Preservation can take thousands of years to die and leave behind an echo able to still take limited action, then I see no reason not to believe the consciousness of Big A is still out there, nudging things.
  3. This idea is common in fantasy stories- the more powerful you become, the more your ability to act is constrained. It’s why a lot of stories see powerful beings nudging mortal champions to realize their goals. Jim Butcher has been using this same idea with “mantles of power” and that over time, the bearer of the mantle is remade more and more conform to the mantle. A new bearer has the most freedom to act, since the mantle hasn’t had time to reshape them. The more you act in tune with the shard’s intent, the freer you are to act. How you interpret the shard’s intent gives you liberty to act. There’s likely some co-shaping happening as the vessel shapes the power through their interpretation and the shard shapes the vessel based on its base intent. Did Cultivation intentionally want Rayse replaced so the Shard of Odium would have a new vessel with more freedom to act? Did she think he’d be a better fit, or easier to manipulate given his newness? I don’t know! We know Sazed is running into problems with his shard, but that was baked in to his ascension, given he picked up two shards with intents that had been interpreted to oppose each other for a long time. He achieved Harmony, but at the same time his interpretation of that harmony seems to be severing limiting him.
  4. The human version of the Fused are already out there: the Heralds and the Returned. Mr T at least knows about the Heralds. It’s clear not all invested cognitive shadows returning to the Physical realm are created equal: the Fused have to take over an already living body. The Returned get stapled back to their own bodies. The Heralds seemed to be able to manifest a body. Mr T could tinker to do some variant of these options, if he wanted to. I wonder if Kelsier has already discovered these options and has come back to the Physical realm at the time the Stormlight Archives are taking place, or if he’s still searching for a way.
  5. I would argue almost all applications of invested arts we have seen require some level of intent. Surge of adhesion requires the user have intent of what they are seeking to adhere. Same with allomancy- you have to have a mind directing what you’re pushing if you’re burning steel. The intent seems less central to the operation of these invested arts- the effect is already set up, the intent simply directs where and how the power is applied. Other examples put intent much more front and center- like Awakening. The only one I don’t see clear evidence of intent for is hemalurgy.
  6. I get the sense that Bondsmiths use the surge of Adhesion to manipulate Connection in a more abstract, yet more profound way than Windrunners, whose use of Adhesion seems geared to physical application for combat. Dalinar uses it to connect stones when rebuilding a temple and the Stormfather basically suggests he’s using godly power like krazy glue. I think Ishar has had lifetimes to understand how his powers can manipulate Connection in subtle and profound ways, while Dalinar is clueless. Could Dalinar do what Ishar did? I think so...he just doesn’t even have the frame of reference Ishar has to work from.
  7. Mistborn Secret History strongly suggests Elantrians associated with the Eeyrie have figured out how to sustain themselves off of Sel. We see them in the Cognitive adjacent to Scadrial, with some kind of energy cable powering their fortress, and them imbibing glowing liquid that seems to renew them. Raw investiture? Liquid from a shardpool? Remains to be seen!
  8. “I said, when everything else is going wrong, I want to be the same. I want to stay me. Not become someone else.” Look at the other boons Cultivation granted. Both were so much more than what Dalinar and Mr T expected. Or even what we as the readers expected. Cultivation is playing a long, long game (well, long by mortal standards). While Lift is imagining she wants to never grow up and remain a child forever, I think Cultivation knows better. Lift’s wish as she imagined it is a child’s wish, and it is so limited. Cultivation wants tools and influence, and here is a chance to set a top spinning across the field for the long term. I’d interpret Lift’s wish as a desire to remain true to one’s core self. That may in part explain the life light generation and bonding the cultivationspren. She has access to Regrowth, which keeps your physical self matched to your spiritual self a la healing. I suspect there’s more to it and we see only this tiny piece for now. Lift staying true to herself in the face of things going terribly wrong will somehow prove critical. Cultivation sets out her chess pieces to prepare for what will happen 50 moves from now.
  9. Just a thought... Dalinar and Rayse as Odium agreed to a contest of champions. Yet Dalinar is talking about being his own champion. If he does so, what’s to stop Mr T as Odium from being his own champion? As a Shard he could flatten Dalinar as he is. I don’t think this is how it will go. I think the likely route Mr T will go is to pick someone Dalinar and his side are unwilling to fight, thus voiding the bargain and freeing Odium. A child sounds like a good bet. Gavinor? It kept coming up that, by the standards of Alethi culture, he was old enough to be practicing with his sword. That he was old enough to participate in war (albeit not in combat). Gavinor keeps expressing a desire to be able to fight. There are questions about what the Fused may have done while they had him. Heck, his mom had two Unmade whispering in her ear- who knows what they did to him. And you can bet neither Dalinar nor Kaladin will be willing to kill Gavinor. Heck, Kaladin would likely see it as a betrayal of his Radiant oaths to do so.
  10. I don’t know that it’s intentionally hidden. I think a number of factors are at play: * Small number of worldhoppers. We are seeing it a lot, but keep in mind our view is from a small cast of people who are very engaged in events happening in Shadesmar. * Most people don’t care or are busy with other stuff. You’d be shocked how many people don’t know basic world information IRL. Why? Because they focus on what they need to know to get in with their lives, and that stuff isn’t relevant. I suspect the same principle is at play here. Taking number two and building on it- I bet you the people in the Horneater Peaks are generally more aware than the populace of Roshar at large. They have a perpendicularity on their doorstep.
  11. I don’t think memory storage was the major reason for the heralds going nuts. They were tortured for thousands of years. They are also cognitive shadows versus being fully alive, which we know over time pushes them more and more to their guiding Intent. I did find the use of breath as memory storage interesting. Made me wonder if any Investiture can be used for this purpose. Breaths are certainly convenient since they take up no space and are essentially carried around stapled onto your soul for easy access. Though it begs the question- what happens if Hoid uses some of his breaths to awaken something? Can he intentionally use non-memory infused breaths? Do the memories stay in the breath when moved into an object? If a memory infused breath was used to make a lifeless, would the memory shape the lifeless in some way?
  12. Navani’s experiments combining different tones to produce Warlight and Towerlight seem really significant when it comes to the idea of merging the Shards back into Adonalosium. Harmony repeatedly has said his opposing powers make it difficult for him to act. While I understand Ruin and Preservation have merged with him to produce Harmony, and that he’d drop Harmony, I think the Harmony he has is really more Harmony between opposing forces- not unification of those forces into something new like what Navani did when she created Warlight and Towerlight. Lots of science in this book suggesting investiture can be intent agnostic and shift intents based on the vibration (intent) influencing it at a given moment. Intent acting like light or sound as a wave through matter, aligning the investiture to the intent expressed through the wave. I assume each Shard has a pure tone. Perhaps the sixteen tones can be blended to produce the song of Adonalosium.
  13. There seems to be an assumption that the Fused are speaking with authority when they said at least one Radiant had sworn the Fourth Ideal. Remember, earlier in the chapter the Pursuer said Kaladin must have have sworn the Fourth Ideal since he was able to overcome the suppressor. We know that’s not true. I think the rest of the Fused took it on faith that the Pursuer is right and Kaladin is at stage 4, then assume some others may be too. Clearly the fourth ideal is a hard one to hit and many Radiants don’t get that far. I don’t think the Fused have a definitive information source on who is at what ideal. I don’t see a neat directory listing somewhere. If there is then Venli is in big trouble. I agree it’s likely Jasnah may have hit the Fourth Ideal, and the geometric pattern we see around her at the end of Oathbringer could be her dismissed plate. Jasnah is well versed at keeping secrets and she’s been consciously on the Radiant path the longest of anyone we know of. I can see her wanting to keep her exactly power level secret.
  14. I don’t have a theory on the broken one or if Odium was maimed previously. I think part of Rayse’s edge in destroying other Shards is the intent of his Shard. I haven’t heard a definitive explanation of what Odium means, but I am going to presume Wit is a reliable witness, and he named Odium as God’s hatred, seperated from His virtues. Rayse is extremely compatible with God’s own Hatred, and wants to remove any threat other Shards could pose to him. That sounds like an edge in seeking to take out the destroyed shards, none of which have the clear intent to protect (Preservation did. Ruin also had the intent to destroy...how convenient Rayse didn’t go after them and is scared of Harmony). Also, on the question of strength, it has been brought up that the other Shards may have been a bit weaker due to investing in their planets. Possible, but I agree a battle between Shards is not simply an issue of brute strength. Finally, just to clarify- Ruin and Preservation did not invest in an existing world. I believe they created one whole cloth with their power. And Rayse still avoided them. Which brings me back to thinking their Shardic intents would give them a serious edge against Rayse.
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