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I found a newer listing in the public record under the Dragonsteel LLC name: https://www.utahcounty.gov/LandRecords/property.asp?av_serial=543360001001 It is a little over 6 acres located next to Evermore Park in Pleasant Grove Utah. This is also close to their warehouse so I’m willing to guess this is a likely candidate for the newly announced Dragonsteel HQ and event center.

I have been thinking about this idea more and more recently. I think there is definitely merit to but I am always hesitant about it. For me a big hang up was how little Gav would agree to be the champion. I don’t buy that he would just do it for the “gift of silence” or because he agreed with Odiums ideals. HOWEVER if Odium (now Taravangian) were to offer Moash up to Gavinor somehow I could see the young boy jumping to that agreement to avenge his fathers death. All that being said, I could see Brandon going several other ways with this too, and this theory still has a few other hang ups for me. Overall, it’s a very plausible direction.

I like this idea. It fits with the idea I had that her first spren turns into the soul caster her father was using.

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Does anyone know if ordering the Rythm of war swag pack through the website will allow you to access the online release party? The website wasn’t clear about that.

I think the lack of trust in the honorspren has something to do with Honor being dead. I can see the secret pen pal being a lot of different “people.” I am leaning towards it not being of Odium though. If I had to guess i would say the warning is coming from cultivation or something related to her because of the way the talk about not trusting honorspren anymore (as if they had in the past). The big change I see is Honors death.

Yeah, I don't think we know enough one way or the other to tell if Shallan is on this specific mission or not. I can see it going both ways. We know she goes to shadesmar but we don't know exactly when. We don't know how long they are in Hearthstone, but my guess is not very long after chapter 8 if Moash is captured.

This is the only reason I haven't put him as number 1 worst yet. There is a small chance that he's not as bad as this prologue paints him. I do find that very unlikely though, especially by the way he was talking about Elhokar and Dalinar. I saw that as his ugliness coming out rather than trying to push anyone away specifically. Gavilar is still an unknown but there is definitely potential there for being the worst. Also, that whole section about living forever.... creepy. It is very ominous to me. That part does not read as him trying to push Navani away.

Sadeas is the worst right now to me because he killed thousands of his own allies (and would have had even more killed if he had his way) on the battlefield to gain power. I don't really care that he never pretended to be a good guy or that he claimed to have a purpose for it. To me, this act alone is worse than anything we have seen Amaram, Moash, or even Gavilar do so far (and this isn't even counting Sadeas' horrible treatment of the bridge crews). I personally consider the act of betrayal against Dalinar to be worse than any lie Amaram has told yet. That being said, there is still plenty of room for Gavilar or Moash to change my opinion. In fact, I fully expect to learn more that will change my mind. However, I don't expect to hate Amaram the most. Don't get me wrong, I do hate him and am glad to see him dead. But he is not the worst to me based on what we have seen so far.

I have it as Sadeas right now, but I can easily see Gavilar taking the cake by the end of this.

While I totally agree with this, there is at least one case where cognitive shadows don’t really have much choice in the matter. This whole prologue came off very ominous to me, and I couldn’t help feel like we are seeing Gavilar again somehow. It may not happen, but I’m getting some serious vibes here. I also can’t help but feel that Navani won’t be the only one to know this side of Gavilar. Maybe he doesn’t come back, but something is going to happen.

Do you mean if he would have pushed through her screaming? Because Adolin does try to summon it, but I believe she just starts screaming so he stops. Kaladin and Shallan do not use their blades. IIRC, they don’t even try to summon them, but I remember having the impression that they wouldn’t have been able to. There might even be a WoB about this but I can’t quite recall it.

I guess this is kind of the point I’m trying to make. The act of becoming plate is causing their sense of purpose and abilities to change. I am very curious to see how the dead plate spren look in the cognitive realm. Also, this discussion had me thinking about nightblood and azures sword. They are attempts to replicate Shardblades. It would be cool to see if someone tried to awaken armor to replicate Shardplate. Also, on a bit of a tangent, would silver armor protect you from nightblood?

I totally agree with this. I am not saying that living plate is like the dead plate. I am just trying to account for the fact that the spren in dead plate have a very different attitude about their states than the dead blades. This could very well be that plate spren are not as sapient, but it feels like some type of change must occur to make it so that all the different types of lesser spren would be content as a dead plate. It is harder to imagine that windspren would be content to be trapped as a dead plate. I'm not saying its not possible, but there is a concern there. This could very well be how it works. Wherever you usually find the spren that make plate, they are likely called in a similar fashion as the shard blade. If this is the case, then I wonder why they havent figured out a way to summon and dismiss the plate as they do with the blade. Is it because the bond for plate works through the now-dead spren? Oh, another question that came to me is if Adolin finds a way to revive Maya, will he then be able to summon the plate? will they also be revived? This is very true, too. I guess I view the ability for spren to become a blade as a change that results from the bond. We see the spren change as the bond deepens, so in my mind I see something similar happening with the lesser spren, but maybe not to the same extant.

I do like the idea of some type of spren merger to create a new spren. That would explain the difference between a half shard and shard plate. In fact, it gives new meaning to the term half-shard. The half shard traps the spren that gives things substance.