Velvet Thunder

Until pattern asks for her final truth! Pattern: "Speak the truth..." Shallan: "NO!" Pattern: "Do it. You must. Remember..." Shallan: "I....I...I like JAM" Radiant max level complete. Amusing how truthberry jam, if it works as claimed, would be oh so very useful to a Lightweaver... oh Kabsal you jammy b*****d! CONCRETE proof that Kabsal is the true hero of the Stormlight archive. Confirmed. Unarguably correct.

@Yata @Calderis @The One Who Connects Thanks for clearing that up for me! In this case then, I assume something similar to Calderis’ suggestion. Unsure of exactly how it would work as I don’t think it will mimic the ‘dead’ shardblades identically, but something similar none the less. Now I’m going to go off on a very uninformed trail of thought. Literally sat here eating toast and free thinking. So stay with me, correct me where I’m wrong and be awed by my brilliant ignorance! Warbreaker spoilers so not sure if Im supposed to hide them. So lets hide them.

If you have enough investiture don't you become a cognitive shadow? I'm assuming with the amount of investiture Nightblood has he would qualify for that?

1) Some Purelaker lucky fish stew! Remember, it needs to be a lucky fish! 2) Rocks stew (upgraded). Heavily flavored, dark with plenty of root vegetables I imagine, with some cheap stewing steak that will absorb all the flavours but still give some bridgeman chew and substance! The upgrade hints to perhaps something crunchy (topped with croutons?) to simulate shells! 3) Kaladins tallew 'Child food' he receives when dining with Roshone. I imagine this to be similar to Moroccan food, lightly spiced rice with strong fruity tastes from apricots etc. 4) Kabsal's 'Truthberry' Jam. Perhaps a mixture between stawberry and raspberry (I don't know if that's possible). 5) Brightlords modesty. Spiced kebabs with multiple meats and vegetables showing their access to exotic things. Sprinkled with pomegranate seeds that look like little ruby chips.

I also had a dream about the cosmere, although I was in a bar drinking many different "colours" of wine when Brightlord Justine Timberlake came in and he bested me at a game of Hearthstone.. needless to say I was amused when I woke up but couldn't find anyone to tell that wouldn't think me completely insane. Until now, Hello 17th Shard! I think your dream was much better and informative. It could work, good dreaming!

I tried for 20 mins to come up with a great one.. instead could only think of a short one about Honor, Cultivation and Odium which the Vorin religion would probably call heresy but none the less. Two were reigning gods Until peace ended and war The violent third Violent the war and ended peace Until gods reigning were two.

That's a really interesting point that I haven't thought about before... Plate is cultivated.. Huh. Nice!

Brandon and his cryptically short answers! Great stuff though. I think it's kind of like engines and fuel. Stormlight = Fuel. Spren and the Bond = An engine. A surgebinder has access to fuel, and an shaping of output in the bond (the engine) to allow them to perform certain abilities. It funnels the investiture in a certain way to be more 'useful' just as fuel is burned in a specific way inside a piece of machinery to produce another result beyond just an explosion. The explosions energy is funneled and shaped to produce motion through a complex make up of bits and bobs turning things and pushing things etc. (I'm not a mechanic, can you tell? ). Someone who just has access to stormlight through holes in the web but no bond has a load of fuel, with no way of shaping it. So they just create an explosion of energy, I ASSUME is similar to increased speed, strength etc. that Kaladin has felt, and it will heal their own wounds. Otherwise they have no extra powers or such. Still pretty kick chull though, might lead into some Vasher fighting some surgebinders and actually doing quite well for himself matching their speed, strength, skill, etc. just missing surges. Interesting

Its made out of Adonalsium Must be a reason (OH MUST THERE?!) for it to sound like a metal!

I’ve seen many people, normally exceptional at what they do, perform worse than someone with no training because their minds were somewhere else, depressed and off their game. People who would normally stun you with skill reduced to average untrained ability. Of course, there is no specific WoB that can confirm either way, so perhaps someone should ask next time we have the opportunity. Until then, let the friendly debates continue!

They don't know they are dead spren. To them, they are powerful weapons in a time of conflicts. The circumstances don't allow it to be moral or immoral, as to them it is material item and nothing more. If, when they find out what they truly are, they still use them, then we can discuss whether they are morally just or not. In many instances you can claim that they should have researched more, been more aware or asked more questions, etc. However in this situation, the knowledge has been lost and there is no one to ask (known). What else are they to think? Now, knowing what they are, do I think it is right to use them? It depends on the scenario. In a general sense? IMO, no. Would you carry around a sharpened thigh bone of a dead guy as a weapon? Despite the fact it makes for an excellent stabbing implement? No, especially if it offends those of whom you wish to remain in good thought of. (i.e. Spren hate the thought). HOWEVER, if you are backed into a corner, fighting for your life and you need a weapon, look around and find that bone spear, you're going to use that thing and use it well. Hell, the relatives (spren in this instance) might even find it comforting that their dead relative still managed to protect after their demise. It's all about situation and perspective. Well, that or i'm an overly analytical person with high empathy yet low sympathy levels.

I think I'm going to become a KR. Or at least I keep telling myself that...

Sets up for a typical bad guy story: Bad guy can't be killed, so the hero's trap them inside metal/rock/etc. No one is ever allowed to set foot on the premises. Years and years go by, and either people slowly forget or a large world event happens and the knowledge of the place disappears. One day some young kids are playing and stumble on this area. They accidentally damage or 'crack' the stone/metal or something of the sorts and the evil guy gets out as he is miraculously still alive, narrative similar to Illidan from Warcraft when hes been imprisoned, to terrorize the world once more. Kids grow up to find the knowledge that he is a gold compounder and defeat the evil by trapping him again, and the cycle repeats.

As @Calderis has already alluded to, not all had the primary function of fighting as such. War (in its grand sense) yes, fighting no. Like modern military structures, all would be taught to fight (and fight well especially as they can all hold stormlight and so I assume move similar to the speed, strength and enhancement Kaladin has felt). However they would then 'specialise' into their specific areas, such as medics, engineers, scouts, etc and while some orders would further develop their fighting and destructive ability, becoming elite infantry etc. Although, there is definitely something more than meets the eye happening with Renarin. Obviously, I could also be completely wrong about all of it, and Jasnah too. I can't wait to find out!

Maybe they realised that running an army of super humans cost a lot of money and supplies. Also, Radiant's didn't have honorblades and therefore needed a lot of Stormlight. Stormlight is stored in gems, which is the currency. Probably needed quite a lot of stormlight to wage war against a relentless foe, and that power comes, coincidentally from the global currency. Undoubtedly there was probably some corruption going on, as that is always the way with humans, but also I reckon an extortionate amount was needed just to supply their powers. which in turn they used to 'save the world'. How do we do this 'fairly'? We offer more convenient technology and abilities and charge a fee. Eventually someone thinks, mmmm money, and raises the price to line their pockets also.