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  1. Even though The Lopen doesn't seem to hate anyone, most humans would still dislike people who are full of hate. Perhaps his 3rd ideal is "I will protect those who hate, so long as it is right" Also keep in mind we know almost nothing of The Lopen's past, we don't even really know how he lost his arm. Their might be something there, something that he keeps hidden that will be revealed in the novella.
  2. Hello, first time poster here and I just had a few thoughts regarding the 4th ideal of the windrunner's with the newest release of Oathbringer chapters. For the most part the windrunner's ideals have related to the flaws in Kaladin's character that he has to overcome. This ideal, I believe, is related to enabling/trusting/inspiring others to protect and not taking on the full burden on your own, as Kaladin's tends to do. In the case of bridge 4, Kaladin has been able to trust all of them (excluding Moash) with the task of protecting the Kholins, and now they are squires. If not an ideal, then I then I think that "trust" is at the very least the bond that creates squires. Chapter 7 confirmed that he imagined Laral as unable to protect herself, and fantasized about coming back to save her. Come to find out she was more than capable on her own. This came of as a shock to him. I think that Kaladin needs to learn that he is not capable of protecting every one on his own. He is getting close with the fact that he left Hearthstone (and Roshone of all people) to themselves. I fully expect something to come up that will cause him to regret this decision and "fail" as always. (The events at Hearthstone went a little to smoothly, and it makes me suspicious) I think the ideal would be something like this. "I will trust others to protect those I can not"
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