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  1. Most, if not all, of Sanderson's main characters are intelligent in one way or another. Some are capable of learning very quickly, others are worldy, others are inventive, others are natural at a great deal of things, others have a high emotional intelligence. In Kaladin's case I think the most important feature of his intelligence is his inventiveness. Making ingenius solutions with limited resources (seen constantly, but specially with the bridges, the learning of stormlight, the way he uses stormlight, etc). He is also naturally good at tactics, strategy and other things, not as good as someone who has been studying it for years, but good enough to keep up and make some quick plans if needed. He can also learn quickly and there have been no topics on which he struggled to keep up. Lastly, I'm not sure whether it should be called emotional intelligence in his case or charisma, but he can bring people to him and keep them together, which also requires some brains to handle. I think Kaladin is one of the most intelligent people in SA.
  2. Honestly, I think Moash just went with Odium and the Fused because he likes been told what to do. He doesn't want to be mistreated or hurt, but he likes people telling him what to do, what to think and taking all those pesky decisions of what is right and wrong out of his hands. In a way he is the perfect slave, or perhaps hound. Treat him well and he is yours, so long as you don't let his leash get too long, or he will feel restless and snap at you. I think Kaladin's problem is that he gave Moash too much freedom. I expressed myself badly when I said Moash didn't owe his life to Kaladin. Obviously he did. What I meant was that Moash didn't have to become Kaladin's yes man for the rest of his life because Kaladin saved him from certain death. Moash was free to disagree, but from disagreeing to completely disrespecting and turning on Kaladin there is a very big leap.
  3. This is a sentence I didn't think I'd ever type for the sheer ridiculousness of it, but: I hated Moash before it was cool. Lol, the stormlight fandom is generally nice, but sometimes there are things in it which get on my nerves; like the stick, of which I got so fed up I promised I wouldn't answer any post that mentioned it or write that word in a post of mine ever again. Now, two years have passed since that promise...so I'll call it good for now. Clearly I'm not Windrunner material though, if I consider a promise done after 2 years! Back to the topic at hand, I wrote off Moash in WoR. Oathbringer was simply confirmation for me of all my reasons for hating him when WoR ended. I didn't read O in horror at his actions, I read it with grim satisfaction at knowing I had been completely right about him. I think my first Moash hate post was written a year before Oathbringer was released or so, I guess I could check back on my posts if needed. In fact I think I said something like "I hope he falls off a horse and breaks his neck since he deserves an ignominous death that no-one even remembers". Why did I hate Moash already before Oathbringer began and see him as a lost cause? I never liked him. In tWoK he was a pain in the behind from the moment he appeared till the end. Yes, the bridgemen were not at their best, but he took been hateful and a spoke in a wheel to extremes. Many bridgemen took what happened in bridge 4 as the end of a life and the beginning of a new one. Except Moash, the first thing he did when he was free was go stir up trouble. Now, if he is just frisky, fine, whatever, they are free to do some mayhem and his reasons for wanting Elhokar death were good ones. What was the problem then? Kaladin. Kaladin got Moash everything Moash ever wanted. His life, respect, men serving under him, been a soldier, friendship, camaradie, even a storming Shard set. Moash owed Kaladin everything he had and everything he was. More than that, Kaladin was his friend. Moash didn't owe his life to Kaladin, but he did owe him enough respect to not turn on him. It was bad enough that if Moash had been succesful in assasinating Elhokar Kaladin would have been held responsible for failing to protect Elhokar, which is not something which you do to a friend to who you already owe everything. But then Moash was fully lost to me when he tried to kill Kaladin while Kaladin didn't even have stormlight because he had broken his bond with Syl. People can all have their own opinions, but for me there is not a single thing which you can do which is worse than betraying a friend. You can betray your country, your commander, your family, because many of those people don't have your best interests at heart. But you never betray a friend. Not a friend that has always stood by you and given you absolutely everything you ever wanted and never raised a hand to hurt you or your loved ones. It isn't a matter of what you owe, it is that your friend has earned yout loyaly, by proving how much they care for you. If you betray a friend that has never made a single move against you, when everyone else has abandoned you, what do you fight for? Revenge? Justice? Power? My answer is: love. And the love of a friend is much greater in my book than the love of a lover. If you are willing to toss away a true friendship for your goals, then you are scum to me, because nothing can ever be more precious than what you threw away. And that is why I hated Moash long before Oathbringer was even confirmed as the title of book three and all those Moash threads became popular. When I opened Oathbringer I did it with the knowledge that nothing on it would change my view of Moash, because he had already shown his true colors. Everything that happened in book three was simple confirmation of what I already knew. Too bad that my old idea of falling off and breaking his neck in an accident does not seem possible anymore with the stormshadow powers that he will gain.
  4. If you aren't hooked by the end of The Eye of the World, the wheel of time may not be for you. The first 5 books are the most dynamic, then there is a slog for a few books. Although in the Eye of the World its true that there is a slowdown halfway through the book, but then it picks up again.
  5. Moash could single handedly achieve peace on Roshar, unity between humans and parsh, and defeat Odium and I would still cheer when he finally died. I've wanted him dead since book 2. Then again I'm a bit vengeful when it comes to betraying friends. If there is one thing book 3 clarified is we know nil of who will live and who will die. Putting soft predictions out there: a herald, one of the family Davar (or all of them except for Shallan), a Ghostblood or three (was that their name? I've been out of touch of Sanderverse for a while), Mr. T as I wouldn't be surprised if the Diagram came to a head on this book.
  6. So, was your hamburguer a normal hamburguer or was it made of "chicken" to inspire your Roshar thoughts? Honor+Odium sounds even more terrifying than Odium by itself. It sounds like every religious fanatic that ever existed, not only are they full of hate for everyone and spread division but they also are full of the self-rightness of their own mission. Adding Cultivation doesn't honestly fix things enough imo. Religious fanatic that learns, plans and wants to make people grow...probably according to their image? Ehhh, not a huge improvement here.
  7. I'm sorry it was spoiled for you. It was painful when it happened, as she was indeed unexpected. I would suggest avoiding all WoT threads in the shard until you finish, because 95% of what is discussed is with assumptions that you have read all the books and can make any number of little throwaway comments. As for the thread, I think I could be happy in several ajahs. Black would be the worst, because while it is true that evil characters usually have all the fun, WoT is the exception to the rule. In WoT being evil just gains you pain, fear and sacrifice. And the higher up the evil hierarchy the worse it gets. Red just seems to have one purpose, which by the end of the books is moot. Yellow is not my thing. Which leaves me with 4 possibilities that I could see myself as, but to narrow it down a bit more: I'm not sure Blue was ever characterized enough for me, just, chase one great quest? It seemed a bit vague. I might like Green ocassionally, but been a Green all the time would get tedious. So...it seems either White or Brown would be nice options.
  8. I agree up to 3, except that I would introduce Tuon in Season 2 and keep the Seanchan on permanently, even if they just have a couple of scenes per season when they are not too evident in the books. Merge Seasons 6 and 7 and Seasons 8 and 9. The reason for introducing Tuon early is that the Seanchan become too huge a part to ignore for as long as they are ignored in the books. After all, in tv you need to know who are the characters and who to root for from quite early on, when people are added randomly later on the audience loses interest. That Tuon is one of the girlfriends of the three boys just makes her early appeareance more important. They could add some more completely new material of the Seanchan too, as that could allow the audience to empathize with them a bit more than how they appear on the books. The same goes for the Black Tower, too important to cut off, yet too much in the background in the books, maybe make a whole new plot for it with some hints from parts of the books which are cut off. Cut off a ton of Aes Sedai, Wise Ones and so on, partly because there is no real point in having so many, and yes, due to budget too .I myself lost interest in the mid books partly due to the million Aes Sedai, Wise Ones, Aiel and whatnot introduced out of the blue when we already had plenty of secondary and tertiary characters around to fill in the gaps. While some fans might hate the idea of not adhering completely to the books, I maintain that tv is not like reading. When reading we have a lot more information, and we can let our minds fill in for a lot that is not said. In tv its just watching and assuming that anything not onscreen did not happen. I wil take the approach of hope for the best, plan for the worst. Since lets be honest...WoT is HUGE, just handing the books to the person in charge of the scripts to read would raise some eyebrows as I, who am a fast reader still took a month to read them all. And you need two readings at least to even become aware of half of the prophecies, clues and mysteries. Then there is the decision on what to cut and what to keep. And so on ^^.
  9. I want to think that Kelsier won't be the killer, and I will grab onto any argument that he is not for as long as I can. But lets be honest, do you think there is a single fan that hasn't at the very least thought of this possibility? I don't think it will be Kelsier, for many reasons already stated. The only reason why it could be him would be to prevent an even bigger threat (Shard level threat). But the possibility that it will be him will likely always be in our minds until we read Era 3.
  10. Kaladin is the last person the GB would want to recruit. Honesty, an inability to lie and a need to follow his morals in a very strict sense...add up to make the worst possible fit into the GB society. As an aside...can I just say how many of the times I try to make an acronym in SA I get SS. Stone Shamans, Shin Shamanate, Secret Societies .
  11. While I'm sure there will be problems with Szeth's crusade I doubt that one will be one of them. Why? Because I'm in the camp that believes that Szeth was a Stone Shaman or at least very high up in their hierarchy, which means that he knew everything that the Stone Shamans knew. Therefore, I believe if he said "the Voidbringers have returned", he had as much information on the past as the Stone Shamans did, and they understood what he meant. As an additional point, language is a tool of communication. The words exist so that groups of people understand each other and know what they are talking about. If someone says "the sky is blue" and everyone knows what they mean, it would be pointless to say "he is lying because blue used to mean pink 5000 years ago". It is irrational and inefficient, as going down that hole means that the point of language as a way of understanding each other becomes irrelevant. Of course you could then enter a philosophical debate about whether what matters is what is said or what is meant, very Skybreaker-Windrunner .
  12. Adolin. He is basically the proverbial Hector. Perfect son, perfect brother, perfect lighteyes, perfect noble, perfect fiance...except for some rough edges to add realism and make him even more lovable in my eyes. Even the people that hate Adolin tend to admit that they would love to have him as a best buddy. Navani was always a bit bland for me, although I respect some parts of her. There are also still unanswered questions about her. Like: what in all the worlds made her attracted to the Blackthorn and Gavilar? Both men the lowest possible crem around! Dalinar for some reason always frustrates me, long before learning his past, this is a problem I have from book 1. He is always on the precipice of making the wrong decision, and seems to often do mistake after mistake after mistake, but then recovers and gains ground from a single right decision. I realize this is something other people will like, but for me it becomes frustrating in that it is continuous. Jasnah, I am mildly fond of her, but I still don't know her enough to make a decision. Same for Renarin. Elhokar is someone I mildly hated in WoR, and become mildly fond of in OB, but thats all.
  13. Gavilar didn't bond the Stormfather, but the potential was there. Basically like Dalinar before he came to Urithiru and said the First and Second Oath. Gavilar simply never progressed to that stage, and was going in the wrong direction than what the SF wanted. That been said, that Gavilar was on the path to potentially become a Bondsmith doesn't prevent him from possibly becoming a Voidbinder. But I suspect that may have been more by accident than on purpose. It's possible he was chasing pure power, and Odium's power was easier to reach and see than Honor's where you have to swear the Oaths and not just go off in a destruction spree . Another possibility is that he was trying to Voidbind, believing he could pick it up and drop it after some experimentation. I'm not too convinced on the Sja-anat angle. It is entirely possible she played us during the brief time we saw her, but she seemed honestly worried of what Odium winning would mean for her and her spren. So I don't see her hastening along the Desolation of her own free will, or at the least dropping warnings with other people who would have worked to prevent it.
  14. Szeth. 1. The Shin are to me one of the biggest mysteries in Roshar. We got some clues in OB about their origins but are still pretty much blank when it comes to their present culture and reasonings. 2. Redemption stories are always amazing if properly written, partly because they are not so easy to fully capture. 3. If the bunch of clues we have put together are right, Szeth bonded or semi bonded a spren years before killing Gavilar, making him the first new (proto?) KR of this era. 4. Szeth flashbacks will most likely equal more present Szeth which equals more Nightblood.
  15. Thats currently my favorite theory, but honestly, I have changed my mind 4 times on this topic already . Do we have any in-text, or WoBs shedding light on Sliver powers? Since most people die soon after dropping a Shard its a topic where I feel we have too little info. Kelsier's location is something else I am quite curious about, but don't have any firm ideas of where he could be. I'm somehow hesitant to think North Scadrial, as while I am sure he has a lot of covert unknown influence there, I'm not sure that he could prevent himself from getting a very hands on and rather visible (if not him then his group). At the moment I'm thinking he is offworld, mainly because even though Sazed is his friend Kelsier would be loath to having anyone capable of controlling him even if Sazed wouldn't normally do that, and the chances that he normally has more than 1 spike are high. I know distance is not always relevant, but I think the further he goes from Scadrial the less able Sazed/Harmony would be able to take control of him through his spikes. So regardless of the difficulty of Worldhopping for him if Kelsier put his mind to it I'm sure he could figure it out after 300 years. I hadn't thought of that, but it makes a lot of sense. It would be so ironic and so Kelsier to spend all that energy into escaping the CR and returning to the PR just to make his power base on the CR once he suceeds. Much like spending so much energy and hatred on overthrowing the Lord Ruler just to pretend to be the Lord Ruler .