Hoids Imaginary Friend

This is a bit of a tangent but based on MeLaans epilogue in TLM it looks like something horrible has happened to Roshar. TLM being what, 5-10 years after SA 5? This supports my theory that the planet Roshar is going to go boom! I wonder what would happen to Shadesmere in the planet and surrounding area if the planet was destroyed, transform a transparent endless looking liquid to a black inky substance maybe? To bring it back to the post, if something insane like this happens to Roshar it would make sense why Kel is using the Dor instead of Stormlight x years later as they do seem close to outsourcing Stormlight.

There's always another secret.. Ok, so TLM shows that Kel is lying to someone regarding him still having allomancy. Either the ghostbloods or Harmony: Ghostbloods he said he couldn't use allomancy to get back in time to help. Harmony he thought and talked about no longer having allomancy. It makes sense it would be harder to con a god associated to the magic system which makes me think it's worth considering. If anyone could it would be Kel. TLM shows its possible to: Hide things from a Shard, in this instance another Shard or God metal was involved. At the least it shows its possible, there could be other means? Use investiture from another Shard to fuel a different magic system. Makes me wonder if using unkeyed Dor to fuel allomancy would hide its use from Harmony? Rewrite past.. what if Kel used a soulstamp to rewrite his past to not being capable of allomancy. Yes, I understand there's timeframes and such involved but we don't know when he knew about this and when he lost or gained allomancy. There's a lot of information missing, but I'm thinking TLM gives us pieces of the puzzle to maybe figure it out.? Would a soulstamp be hidden from Harmony? A very clever one? If so, it would allow Kel to "lie" to Harmony. Not just lie, but also deceive via his thoughts. And as we know, Harmony can hear thoughts via Preservations power which I'm guessing Kel knows about. I could be wrong and I agree it's the less likely theory but.. that's what's making me think I'm onto something, Mr S throwing me curve balls all the time. So what do you think, is it possible for Kel to decieve Harmony in this way? Or is Harmony aware and playing his own game maybe? Is this another secret?

I'm kinda on the fence with this.. On one hand, it seems obvious Kel no longer has powers. Mostly based off his thoughts in the epilogue, why would his thoughts lies? On the other hand, I think its quite possible he knows Harmony can read minds and is manipulating him. Though one would think Harmony would be able to tell with some sort of god sight, I doubt a Scadrian would be able to easily fool him in this regard. Though this book and his letter to Hoid does prove its possible. And back to the first hand, it seems "obvious". This makes me think that other hand is more likely, Kel is using his thoughts to manipulate Harmony (Mr S is using it to manipulate us). I also think it's odd Kel didn't pick up on Harmonys lies, though if I'm right he may have but didn't react or think it.. Sigh.. maybe we'll see in.. what, 6 years?

I didn't mean leaching in the literary way, just trying to wrap my head around what we know and Kels epilogue. What if..! Kel knows Harmony can read his mind and is lying to him with his thoughts? So, they are both lying to each other.? But.. wouldn't Sazed know if / when someone is using Scadrian magic?

Could Hoid have leached the memory maybe?

Kels epilogue shows he no longer has Allomancy, Hemelergy doesn't work as he knows it outside of helping him reach the physical realm. This also insinuates the medallion system doesn't work for him. Hence the naming of the Bands.. he's mourning his loss of Allomancy.. another "failed" experiment.

We still don't know what Sazed is doing with all that extra Ruin. I'm thinking he's creating an Avatar (discord), but in a splintering fashion and not 50 / 50 so he's still more powerful. Kinda like he's splintered a 3rd of his investiture favouring Ruin and cloned himself.

I'm still in the Odium is Trell camp and Odium has a habit of corrupting investiture instead of investing. Which makes me think the "Trell" spike is a corrupted God metal, most likely Harmonium or its derivatives.

I'm thinking the spike and letter apparently encouraging Wax to use a Trell spike may not be from Harmony, at the very least it's a misdirect and if it is Harmony its not talking about the so called Trell spike..

Well if that's our Hoid he'd still be a lightweaver right? We know from the SP's his Cryptic is still around. Gunna keep an eye out for odd patterns nearby.

What if the Trellium spike was providing the fuel similar to Elend and Preservation at the end of HoA? As in it provided a connection to "Trell" and the Shard provided the fuel to use the abilities of the other spikes. No metal minds were found on the body as far as we're aware, could be inside the body I guess.

Wait.. I though God metals can be burned by anyone? Wasn't that the point of Atiums retcon? I think there's still connection issues preventing burning God metals from other Shards outside of Scadrial but aluminium is tried and true. Silver maybe, it's currently known as an inert Allomanctic metal. Though if I'm correct about the connection problem, maybe you need to have a spiritual connection to all 16 Shards to burn it..

Since ROW I can't help but think the Stormlight Archive is just Sanderson showing how the God of war came about. Theorising along these lines my guess is at the end of SA Odium will be split in half, most likely with a Dawnshard and gets divided between Honor and Cultivation. Im also thinking that Honor and Cultivation will swap a bit of their.. power. Main reasoning is to remove Odium from the board by providing some Divine context to its divine hatred. Thus we have two new 1.5 power Shards.. H + O = War C + O = Vengance Dalinar is the obvious fit for War and I'm also guessing Lift takes up vengance and we'll find out in the back 1/2 that the Ghostbloods were involved in mummies death so she's off to cause some drama.. something something Trell.. !~HIF~!

So we found out that part of Urithiru is a Radiant graveyard where presumably dead Radiants would be soulcasted into statues.. And we have a powerful, knowledgeable Awakened in near vicinity who knows how to transfer stormlight into breaths.. And we have at least one Bondsmith who can open a perpendicularity that can provide large amounts of stormlight for a short duration.. Soo... What's do you think the chances are of Awakened Lifless Radiants.? And than think... What are the chances of these guys being kinda "Returned" due to crazy Bomdsmith powers.? P.s. by "Returned" I mean some spirit realm connection mumbo-jumbo that may or may not be temporary. !~ HIF ~!

What if the loophole is to destroy the planet Roshar and book 5 ends with a mass exodus and a scene eerily similar to Dalina's vision at the end of book 1? No planet, no place to be bound..? !~ HIF ~!

Well I originally had some out there ideas about who would be whos champion. E.g. Adolin is going to revive and bond all deadeye spren and be everyone's champion! I have since calmed down a bit and I think Dalina will realise again he can't do everything himself and choose another champion. And i still thought Adolin because he's been shown to be an awesome duellist and this "battle" is essentially a duel but with magic.. And than I started thinking outside the storms and had an epiphany... Who is the unquestionably, no hesitation required best fighter amongst the Heralds? TALN!! (Seriously, who doesn't want to see this guy fight?) So I was totally on board with Taln being Honours Champion.. and I had a scary thought.. What if Taln did break.. And now I'm convinced Taln will be Odiums Champion. And that's the story of how I made myself a bit sad. !~ HIF ~!

I'm thinking maybe all the Dawnshards can do the same thing but in different ways. But there's this one.. !~HIF~!

I like this idea of Dalinar becoming the Dawnshard of the Divine Command of Unity. It tickles me right, thank you! It made me think some profound interesting things.. Firstly, is anyone else thinking that Tanavast may have been deliberately misleading in his visions knowing full well that Raise would be able to hack them? I feel like Tanavast may have had a chuckle over Rayse spending years trying to figure out if he meant Dawnshards as a plural or a title.. Secondly, I feel the idea of "change" could be used to "bind", so to speak. E.g. I change the strength of your magical / non magical bonds.. Anywhere, fun theory! Fun book! One more week!! !~HIF~!

I've always assumed there would be a final battle happening in the end. I have a crazy theory that part of what Hoid is doing is "tagging" people in a outraged attempt to access the spirit realm, but it has to be the right person at the right time in the right place (Spirit realm is wierd guys ). His goal originally was to bring a person or people back from the Spirit realm. Fast forward to this hypothetical final confrontation... the battle isn't going well and Kel, with his control issues gets into an argument with Hoid and Hoid is all like: "You never did understand did you Kel.. this was never about you, it has always been about everyone" (this being a hard lesson that Hoid recently learnt). And bam, Hoid does something... magical and brings all our favourite heroes and villains back for an assist. Unfortunately the cost of this is hoid is basically trading himself - another thing Hoid has been doing is gaining enough raw power for this trade.. And this is where I learnt to laugh and cry again P.s. I know its a bit of a take of the WoT horn of valere but as Brandon has said... there's no such thing as a new idea, its all about style (kel in secret history i think, and pretty sure Hoid says something similar somewhere else. !~ HIF ~!

Well, lightning is technically a giant static charge.. A few years back I read that they found ice in lightning storms and what happens is as the rain falls it steals electrons off the ice and paints the ground. When there's a big enough charge.. Boom! The charge jumps back up to the clouds and balance is preserved. Now could a Skybreaker emulate this with the surge of division? With what little we know of the surgery, I'm thinking yes! !~ HIF ~!

Its documented somewhere a lack of Spren in Shinova and most of us theorise the Shin have most of the lost shard blades and plates. If we're correct in assuming the Shin do indeed have these shards, im wondering if this corelates to the lack of Spren in Shin-land? E.g. In the cognitive realm Shinova is like the Spren Graveyard with hundreds if not thousands of dead eyes and the equivalent of shard plate dead eyes (if that's even a thing). So theres an unspoken anathema on Spren going to Shinova hence the lack of Spren..? Thoughts?

The Heralds didn't abandon Taln, Taln abandoned the Heralds. Taln doesnt pay taxes. Taln doesn't need toilet paper, he's got Roshar. Taln once bonded all the Spren. Odium really really wants to be friends with Taln. Everything he's done since he became a Shard was to impress Taln. Taln isn't impressed.. All of Hoids stories are about Taln. Ash isn't in love with Taln. She's in love with the idea of Taln. Taln once farted and created Investiture. Taln can slam a revolving door.! Brandon Sanderson is a figment of Taln's imagination. WOT for fun! !~ HIF ~!

Have we had confirmation the honorblades are broken and no longer capable of drawing directly from honors investiture? I know Honor was shattered but his investitute wasnt destroyed.. A couple of possibilities with this line of thought: 1) you need to be bonded to the honorblade before you can access investiture directly 2) only the Heralds are capable of using the Honorblades in this way 3) its all about perception - we know that someone holding an Honorblade without knowing what it is is incapable of accessing the surges they grant. What if accessing investiture like the Heralds used to is as simple as knowing you can do it? This reminds me of the scene in Edgedancer at the when Nale breaksdown and acknowledges the Voidbringers return. The whole fight between Nale and Lift I cant remembet him gkowing much, but right at the end - bam - he flows like the sun and flies off.. !~ HIF ~!

Oathbringer / mistborn era 2 spoilers guys. So by the end of OB we see Hoid bond a Cryptic, which was quite an exciting event, add to this we know MB era 2 is between SA 5 & 6. So its got me thinking.. (my answers in bold) 1) Is Hoid still Bonded? yes 2) Has Hoid figured out how to take a spren off world? yes 3) Can anyone remember if this may have been suggestive in the texts? cant memba I can only remember two scenes; SoS - carriage driver when Wax talks to Harmony BoM - homeless person who talks to Wax out the front of "that" party where Hoid gives Wax the copper mind medalion. Anyway, thought this eas interesting and wanted to share. Thoughts guys? Anything else we can think of here..? !~ HIF ~!

This thread has reminded me of something ive been sitting on regarding the Shin and Odium. Its slightly tangential to this thread but I think it fits.. Ive been hesitant to talk about this as I think I may be misreading. I want to point out the interaction stated above between The Shin merchant and.. Rysn and co! I was thinking about this scene and I get the impression that The Shin appear to be kind and considerate people and it seems they lack a certain... Passion. Im also looking at Szeths Povs in OB and he seems to have this same trait - dont get me wrong he's still a bit cracked, but not as much as the previous books and as with my postulation above, this kinda "sane" Szeth lacks that Passion we've been hearing all about. Im inclined to agree that the Shin definitely know more than theyre sharing and they have something going on. Considering they know more of Odium then most cultures on Roshar, it maybe they have been resisting him all this time.. Or..!! Are The Shin already taken by the Void and this apparent passionlessnes is them waiting for their god to return their.. Passion! Now I dont know what to think.. !~ HIF ~!