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  1. Welcome @Mistborn knight! I've been working through Lightbringer for the first time myself.
  2. BookDepository is owned by Amazon, so that easily explains why they share a common date. (Though even if that weren't the case it wouldn't necessarily mean anything.) This is almost certainly just a placeholder date in my opinion. That's VERY common for unreleased books I'm looking forward to the 3rd book, but I'm not holding my breath for this list date at all.
  3. Sorry, this got a little wordy. But you're about to read WoT, so you should be ready for that. Books 1-3 are very similar in style and structure, and they almost read like a trilogy. If you're not a big fan of these three, you should push on because the series really comes into its own with book 4. That's really when the story begins to branch out into something amazing. I agree with Striker that if you aren't enjoying yourself at the end of book 6 then you should put it down. If you don't like what you've read at that point, it's not going to suddenly get better for you. If you ARE enjoying yourself at that point, you have the slog ahead of you between books 7 and 10... It's NOT that bad if you're enjoying the books. It's not an info dump. Basically what happens is that the story expands too much and the the story becomes a bit of a tangled mess. Lots of minor PoV characters introduced, that you maybe don't care about. Lots of plot arcs being juggled, which means none of them seem to advance particularly far from one book to the next. Books begin to feel less distinct because there's a lack of focus and finality with each one. My advice to everyone on this is to check your expectations. If you REALLY want your favorite main character to go do some big thing that you've been anticipating and move the story forward.... You're probably going to be disappointed. You're probably going to feel impatient. You're going to have a hard time being interested in the minor characters. You're going to have a hard time savoring the journey because your eyes are on the destination. Don't do that to yourself. Take a deep breath and tell yourself to be patient. You'll find a lot more to love in the sloggy books if you have this attitude. (In my experience with rereads, where impatience to see what happens with the main plot is no longer an issue, these books are a pleasure to read because there are so many little intricate things going on.) The Companion is more for reareads or general perusal after you've finished the series. It has MAJOR SPOILERS. You don't need it. That said, if you have questions when you're reading I would discourage Googling them as well. Google autocomplete will spoil big things for you from the final book. If you have a question while reading, I'd recommend finding an online community where people are cautious with spoilers and asking there. I definitely recommend reading New Spring. You shouldn't read it first though. It's a "prequel novel" in that it takes place before the first book, chronologically. But it will spoil things from the middle books and I'd say it will give you a different experience than Jordan intended if you read it first. Most people recommend reading it in publication order, which is between books 10 and 11. Another common recommendation is after book 5. It's a relatively short book with VERY few PoV characters and a very simple plot... So I often recommend that people use it to take a short break from the slog books if you need it. If you make it through book 10 and never felt like you needed a break, then great... Now you're at publication order and you can pause to read it then. Some people say to read it after the end. Personally, I think it's rather anticlimactic for that purpose. But that's certainly an option if you never feel like putting the main books down.
  4. Favorites, in order: Nynaeve Mat Verin Honorable mentions: Lan. Moiraine. Androl & Pevara. (I loved what Brandon did with them. Just not enough book time for me to list them as favorites.) Least favorites, in order: Gawyn (after book 4) Elayne (after book 4) Egwene (until book 11) Honorable mentions: Rand when he's in a self pitying mood. Perrin when Faile is kidnapped.
  5. @Nobody There is, actually! But I don't know where they play it... I'll ask around. Edit: Sounds like they usually set up games informally on Discord from time to time. See the right sidebar on the 17th Shard homepage for a link to the Discord server. It's easy to join, if you're not familiar. Just visit the #general channel and see if anyone wants to play sometime.
  6. Welcome Bloodweaver!
  7. Those don't strike me as anything particularly unique concerning the Dustbringers. I'm sure there were Radiants from all orders who were great people who valued their families. I'd say our biggest clues we have on Dustbringers just come from observations of Malata and Spark. Obviously they don't represent all Dustbringers, especially with respect to their cooperation with Taravangian. But I think there's something about their personality and values that is revealed regardless. Other than that, the next biggest clue is Pattern's comments in OB 27: Pattern's opinion is sure to be biased. Regardless, I'm left with an impression of someone very different from Lirin.
  8. This is perhaps the main thing that makes me skeptical of the idea @Argent presented. If it's true that the Ashynites essentially destroyed their own world with Surges (presumably via Odium) then it seems very likely to me that the concern we're dealing with on Roshar is directly related.
  9. I think the "divine attributes" associated with the order are just a modern/Vorin cultural thing. If there's a connection, it's probably a complicated and messy one. So that said, while I absolutely agree that Lirin is brave... Obedient? Eh... I don't think obedience is why he lives by those principles. And regardless, in terms of personality Lirin seems like the OPPOSITE of a Dustbringer to me.
  10. Oh, totally. I was actually coming down on the other side of things. It was the first part of your statement that I was primarily skeptical of. I didn't think it was possible to Soulcast something into a gemstone at all. I'd actually be a little surprised if you can Soulcast a gemstone into something else? But I guess that's not unreasonable. I definitely wouldn't think that you could Soulcast something into a gemstone. Or if you can, I don't expect it would work like a "real" gemstone in terms of its ability to hold Stormlight, be used for Soulcasting, etc. (and the Shallan quote seems to support this)
  11. I definitely think so. I suspect the strata in Urithiru actually did this, to some degree. (see Dalinar and Navani's conversation at the beginning of OB ch 96) (edit: lol, Karger ninja'd me) In theory, it seems fairly straightforward to me. I think if you put two gems in contact (at the very least, if you fuse them) then Stormlight will distribute between them. So if you have a gem at one end that's being drawn from and a well of Stormlight on the other end then the Stormlight will flow to replace the Stormlight that was removed. Seems like gems are too brittle to make good "pipes", but maybe there's an engineering solution to that. I don't think that's the case... Do you know what WoB you're thinking of?
  12. This is what I've been thinking as well. All very well said.
  13. Time for another round of Coppermind objectives! First we need to say a big thank you to everyone who helped out in April and May. We got a lot done, with help from long-time users and new editors alike. I wanted to give a special shoutout to Stargazer in particular, who showed up in mid-April and ended up in the top of the pack on both objective completions and total contributions! Lots of good work all around, so thank you to everyone who helped. In other news, we've officially reached the lowest stub count in the history of the wiki! This is a huge milestone for us, and we're ecstatic! Thanks for the hard work, folks. Let's keep it up! One more round to go and we'll be hitting our one year anniversary for these objectives! As always, we're happy for any help we can get, so don't be shy. If you're new to editing the Coppermind, don't worry; we'll help you out with guides and plenty of assistance. You don't need experience, just the will to help out! We'll also provide awards, because everyone loves fake internet points. Without further ado, here are our objectives for June and July. If you find something you'd like to help with, claim it here, and let us know if you have any questions! If nothing in the list below catches your eye, there are leftover objectives from previous months up for grabs in the claim spreadsheet. If you sign up for something, please say hi on Discord so that we can offer support and touch base with you! Larger Projects Let's start with some larger projects. These objectives will definitely require some research and a good bit of writing. Anyone is welcome to take them--we just don't want you to feel like you've bitten off more than you can chew. 1. Vin's Relationships First up this round is our beloved Vin. We like to have a "Relationships" section on our character pages, which covers their relationships with the significant people in their lives. Vin's article has a gaping hole where this section belongs! We would like to cover her relationships with Elend, Kelsier, and Sazed, though you're welcome to add more! Let us know if you need help getting started on this. 2. Steris Here's another Mistborn favorite, though you wouldn't know it from her article. We've been neglecting her worse than Wax apparently. We could use your help fleshing out Steris's History section. It would also be good to start a Relationships section that covers Wax and Marasi. 3. Syl's History Stormlight Archive time! Syl is one of the most loveable and important spren on Roshar. Her history section, however, hasn't been touched since Kaladin swore his second Ideal in The Way of Kings... What more is there to say? We don't need a history book written about her, but we need something! 4. Lukel So I'm flipping through some Elantris articles and started to think Raoden/Sarene's group of conspirators might collectively make for a fantastic objective. Then I opened up Lukel's page and found little more than a bullet point outline of this major Elantris character. Anyone want to flesh this article out? 5. Allik Neverfar One more Mistborn character to choose from! The Southern Scadrians might mostly be an enigma still, but this delightful character is a familiar facce. Or a familiar mask, at least. This article needs a bit of work all around. Smaller Tasks These are tasks that are much shorter and involve characters or topics that are minor. But, hey, minor things are important to have done too! Many of these articles are so short that they will not require separate sections. Research should be fairly straight forward. For short articles, include as much as you can possibly find about them. 1. Lift's Oathbringer History Here's a pretty Awesome objective that should be straightforward. Lift doesn't play a tremendous role in Oathbringer, but she definitely did more than the single sentence in her history section tells of! She still hasn't been updated for Oathbringer! Let's fix that. 2. Susebron Susebron is one of the most Invested individuals in the cosmere, but his Attributes and Abilities section is nonexistant. If that doesn't make you see red I don't know what will. See the equivalent section on Vasher's page as a starting point. It would also be nice to add a section about his relationship with Siri. Double credit if you can do both, but either would be a big help. 3. Eshonai's Relationships With Eshonai's flashbacks being written now (like seriously, maybe at this very moment!) it's important for us to make sure this Shardbearer's article is ready to go for the next book. She needs a Relationships section, that covers (at least) her relationships with Venli and her mother. 4. Dusk In honor of the recent news about progress on the Sixth of the Dusk sequel, this seems like a good time to polish up the Eelakin trapper's own article. He's got a pretty solid history section, but the rest of the article could use some love still. While he has no magic of his own, Dusk has plenty of abilities worth noting. His appearance and his relationship with Vathi could also use some attention. 5. M-Bot's History Let's wrap up with a non-Cosmere favorite? M-Bot's history is off to a good start, but it could use some fleshing out. And most of the information presently there is uncited. We'd love some help cleaning this up! What's in it for me? We want to motivate people to help, so we will be giving out Coppermind awards for the users in the coming months with the most edits, and we'll also give out awards if you contributed to one of these items. They'll be on your user page for all to see. Here's a look at our top editors from the last month! Most Contributions 1. Ammcclain15 - 37,053 bytes 2. Thurin - 33,465 bytes 3. Stargazer - 25,400 bytes 4. Alicila - 22,190 bytes 5. Ladymxdnight - 7,615 bytes Objective Completions 1. Stargazer - 1 Major, 2 Minor 2. Rebeca - 1 Major, 1 Minor 3. Rasarr - 1 Major, 0 Minor How do I to start? The most important thing is to be bold! Content is hard to write, but we can always format your stuff if it doesn't quite match conventions. MediaWiki notation may appear scary at first, but the best way to learn is through experience. If you're interested, we have lots of guides to help: Help:Contents. It does very much help to have ebooks so you can find instances of a specific word or person. (This is extremely helpful for minor characters). If you have physical books, ask us and we can help you determine this so you don't need to reread the whole text. We can also direct you towards some good articles to use as a go-by. Come join us on the dedicated Coppermind Discord, or come chat in the #coppermind channel on the 17th Shard Discord. We are really happy to help!
  14. I'm totally on board with the theory that "the Fused are Surgebinding". Their expression of the Surges is different, but it's pretty clearly the same Surge. Brandon's statements have been very clear that Voidbinding is something we haven't really seen. But... I'm really baffled by the Voidbinding chart. All of the "Surges" on the Voidbinding chart are... Surges. The exact same Surges from Surgebinding. Yeah, they're all twisted. But it's the same Alethi word. This is the biggest issue I have with the theory, and I've really struggled to conjure a satisfying answer. I guess it's possible that the symbols are sort of used in a kind of symbolic sense. Like... maybe the "first Void" is really not analogous with Adhesion in any way... But the whole concept is too profane to warrant a glyph, so they just use a twisted Adhesion glyph as a stand-in. (if that makes sense) It's also possible that my imagination as to what each Surge represents isn't big enough. I can, for example, see how "seeing the future" can be encompassed in the Surge of Illumination.(that is, within some umbrella concept that the Surgebinder Surge of Illumination also falls under) But I have a much harder time grasping how this works out with other Surges. Or imagining rather, considering we haven't seen many clues of what the other "Voids" are. Argent sort of addresses this, but I'm not entirely satisfied with how if fits together and with what makes these systems unique.
  15. Ever since reading this post and digging back into the origin of Surgebinding/Knights Radiant I've been really interested in this WoR chapter 35 epigraph: Nohadon mentions the term "Nahel bond" in Dalinar's TWoK vision, which means whatever this refers to it happened before the Knights Radiant formed. Who is the first "they" here? Doesn't seem like it would be the Surgebinders themselves. So most likely it was the spren deciding among themselves? Or at the very least it seems like the spren were involved. In light of this, I DO really like @Confused's interpretation of the epigraph about Ishar requiring organization. I can see how, if early Surgebinding was totally cavalier, things could easily get out of hand. So Ishar threatens the spren that he will destroy them if they don't organize themselves. Perhaps the oaths were part of that pre-Nohadon organization? And then the specific wording of the ideals was detailed later or developed over time? The mention of a "placement" for the bond is interesting, and it also reads as though the Surges "assigned" to each spren aren't entirely natural? That isn't to say there wasn't any kind of natural fit... And obviously they are patterned after the Honorblades. But it does seem like the associations didn't just... happen by accident.