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  1. One Tinsy Little Problem With Allomantic Pewter

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    8 minutes ago, cometaryorbit said:

    Hmm, see, I read that differently. I thought the idea was that that voice kept him going when he was actually working in the Pits, before he Snapped... keeping him from giving up & dying.

    Once Mare died he was motivated by revenge. His intent at that point was less "Survive" and more "kill all the soldiers and nobles" (IIRC he killed all the guards and all nobles within ten miles).

    Hmm, I thought he literally Snapped watching Mare die.

    Knowing immediately didn't seem that surprising to me since we are told that that part of the Central Dominance has lots of metal in the ground (which helped hide the kandra Trust of atium from Ruin) so he probably would have felt trace metal reserves (like Vin did before she knew she was an Allomancer... but Kelsier knew enough about Allomancy, from Mare and Marsh, that he would have immediately realized what was happening).

    RoboChrist

    Did Kelsier really hear Preservation's voice telling him to Survive when he was in the pits of Hathsin? Or was it Ruin pretending to be Preservation?

    If it was Preservation, does that mean Kelsier died in the pits? Or were there special circumstances that allowed Kelsier to hear Preservation's voice without dying?

    Brandon Sanderson

    Special things often happen in the cosmere when someone is very close to death, or undergoing intense pain (either physical or emotional.) Barriers between the realms weaken.

    This indicates, at least to me, that that event occurred when Kelsier Snapped. It was a specific moment, not a general thing.

    Brandon Sanderson

    The Venture-atium connection is something I wish I could have foreshadowed a little bit better. However, without Elend being a viewpoint until this chapter (the reasons for which I'll explain in a bit) there really wasn't much I could do to connect Venture and the Pits.

    By the way, the "something a few years ago" that Elend mentions happening to disturb the atium production was Kelsier, the Survivor of Hathsin, Snapping and coming to an awakening of his powers–then bursting out of his hut and slaughtering every soldier or nobleman within ten miles of the Pits.
     

    Kelsier snapped in his tent AFTER Mare was killed, not during the actual incident.

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  4. One Tinsy Little Problem With Allomantic Pewter

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    9 minutes ago, cometaryorbit said:

    Kelsier says he Snapped watching Mare be killed (he mentions it a couple of times in book 1, once when he explains to Vin what Snapping is, and then later on when he thinks about the Pits more). This seems like regular Snapping due to trauma, to me.

    Until Secret History, yes…

    “Do better, Kelsier, Preservation commanded, his voice fading. If the end comes, get them below ground. It might help. And remember . . . remember what I told you, so long ago. . . . Do what I cannot, Kelsier. . . .

    SURVIVE.

    The word vibrated through him, and Kelsier gasped. He knew that feeling, remembered that exact command. He’d heard that voice in the Pits. Waking him, driving him forward.”

    This event occurred at the moment Kelsier snapped. Considering Kell had just spent 16 months in the Pits without snapping when being exposed to great stress is normally enough, and had not had an easy life before, and was raised a Noble so endured a beating to manifest his power, and his snapping didn’t happen immediately after Mare died (it happened after Kelsier was back in his tent), and Kelsier somehow knew he’d Snapped when normally people aren’t immediately aware… Well, let’s just say Kell’s snapping was weird before and this event makes it even more suspect.

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  19. Anyone else not really like the metallic arts?

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    On 11/3/2021 at 0:03 PM, StanLemon said:

    I don't think it will show visions like Atium considering it can be misidentified as luck. I've always imagined it more like the luck potion from Harry Potter. A sense of knowing what you need to do. I believe this is supported by the fact that Brandon has compared Hoid's ability to know when and where he needs to be to Feruchemy 

    I’ve always thought F Chromium will act like Mat’s ‘luck’.

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  20. The Lost Metal Chapter 1

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    2 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

    Debatable. They may just have deputized the forces of the Great Houses.

    Tensions with the Malwish. That is not synonyms with "The Southerners". The North Scadrians are not stupid and six years is long enough to discover and exploit divisions among the other side.

    We have learned:

    • Waxillium did not start a war in the Basin
    • But relations within the Basin have not improved much either
    • There is trade between the North and the South (many people have medaillions)
    • There are diplomatic relations between the North and the South (ambassadors kind of imply that)
    • The Set has not gone public
    • The political structure of Elendel has not fundamentally changed
    • Elendel has developed technologically (electricity is now ubiquitous)
    • You can build a subway system under Elendel with explosives, hence bedrock is unusually shallow

    The last is no surprise, given it’s the Cosmere version of NYC. Right down to the Empire State and the Chrysler Building.

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  21. One Tinsy Little Problem With Allomantic Pewter

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    On 1/31/2022 at 2:19 PM, cometaryorbit said:

    I am not sure this is strictly a matter of Connection. Kelsier is strongly connected to Ruin and weakly to Preservation, from Secret History: that doesn't make him an unusually weak Mistborn.

    Vin was born Snapped, but the epigraphs suggest she got unusual allomantic strength from breathing in bits of mist during times without her earring, so she wasn't necessarily born stronger than the average Mistborn.

    (Vin's ability to breathe in the Mists does seem to be a special Connection to Preservation. But I don't think it's as simple as stronger Connection = more Allomantic power.)

    Kelsier is implied to have been Snapped directly by Preservation, so his natural Allomantic potential was probably lower. Either way, we can’t use him to figure out anything in this regard.

    On 2/3/2022 at 10:11 PM, Trusk'our said:

    It may be possible to do this, because when the Lord Ruler lost his metalminds, he didn't use any of his other powers to quickly retrieve them and continue to tap his Atiumminds. Which is kind of weird to me, because even if he was rapidly aging, Allomantic pewter or iron could have been really useful in that situation. But he didn't use them, possibly indicating that he stored his Allomantic stores in those Metalminds as well, and he didn't have any metals to burn in his system once his bracers were pulled away from him.

    So, it could have been that there were other factors at play, but I think that it may be possible to do as you suggest.

    My personal theory is that Rashek had gotten so used to tapping Zinc that he basically couldn’t think once Vin removed his metalminds.

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