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  1. Mistborn Tarot: Spoilers for all books (Discuss)

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    Posted · Edited by Kingsdaughter613

    I realized I never updated this with the minor Arcana, so here we go!

    The Suit of Spears, Swords to us, is associated with the element of air. This being Scadrial, it’s also associated with Mist. The suit is associated with power, change, knowledge, and action, oppression, ambition, courage sand conflict.
     

    The suit is centered around the mind and the intellect. It also about the balance between power and intellect and the constructive and destructive nature of actions. It’s negative aspects include anger, guilt, harsh judgement and a lack of compassion.

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    Lord Kelsier’s position as the Mistborn (King) of Spears should surprise no one. With the suit bearing his symbol, and its traditional association with mist, it was almost inevitable. Upright this card symbolizes mental clarity, intellectual power, clarity and truth. Reversed it can mean quiet power, inner truth, misuse of power, and manipulation.

    Prior to the fall of the Final Empire, the Mistborn cards either held random figures or the Lord Ruler. Some decks shortly after the fall have Lord Kelsier appearing on all four Mistborn cards. Others placed Lord Kelsier on Spears or Metals, Lady Vin on the other, Emperor Elend on Bands or Boxings, and The Lord Ruler on whichever Elend did not appear. While it has become uncommon to see the Last Emperor and the Lord Ruler on Mistborn cards, The Survivor and the Ascendant Warrior have retained their place. 

    Some versions of this card, particularly in the South, depict the Sovereign rather than the Survivor. The Survivor version of the card remains more common, however.

    The four Marewill flowers on the ground symbolize the four suits. Added to the four on the Survivor’s spear, they symbolize the 8 basic metals of the Final Empire. The symbol behind Lord Kelsier and in the lower right is Mah, for Mistborn. It is also the symbol for gold, the metal of introspection and healing. In the upper right is the symbol  Kah*, for Kelsier. It is also Bendalloy, the metal of the future. Kah includes two crossed spears, as the Survivor was pierced by two spears. (This version of Kah is sometimes found in Survivorist imagery as well.)

    The Survivor wears a pale blue shirt, symbolizing the blue skies he restores. The brown of his pants symbolizes the brown plants of the World of Ash. He stands before a night sky, for he belongs to the nights. The spear is held in his right hand, symbolizing the rational mind, and rests on the ground, indicating stability. The spear points toward the sky, reminding us of the Survivor’s Ascension. Marewill winds along the shaft, representing intuition. The grass are the green plants the Survivor worked to restore, and he gazes to the right, looking toward the future.

    *Canonically, the Gold symbol is Mah. I accidentally kind-of confirmed that Electrum is Nah. Working off this, it seems the Metallic Alphabet is phonetic, so Bendalloy should be Kah.

     

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  3. Shard influence on Scadrial (other than Ruin/Preservation) aka Cazzi Religion has to do with Ambition/Threnody theory

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    12 hours ago, Benkinsky said:

    Something to add to the Cazzi part specifically. u/Kingsdaughter613 pointed out on Reddit that the names of the planets in the Threnody system (Threnody, Elegy, Monody and even the moon Coronach) are names for death laments, a poem for the dead and a funeral song respectively. Which matches with the idea of Death chants well.

    BTW, I’m on here too. Hi!

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  4. Death and the Survivor

    in Sanderson Fan Works

    Posted · Edited by Kingsdaughter613

    On 5/12/2021 at 11:43 AM, Trutharchivist said:

    ... What does Shai have to do with Kell?

    Except for that, those are great comics strips!

    Since you asked way back when…

    I had a crazy aluminum hat theory, that made no sense, that Shai would be a Ghostblood (which I was too embarrassed to mention, because it was such a ridiculous idea). Had I continued the comic, she would have been a member, thanks to the backstory I mentioned in my original response to you.

    This is probably the most out-there theory I’ve ever had turn out to be correct. I’m still in shock.

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  6. Kelsier is hiding a lot

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    On 11/16/2022 at 5:51 PM, Doonl said:

    We finally got an in person meeting with ghost! kelsier, and while we already knew he was around and running the ghostbloods, we still learned a lot, which naturally leaves us with a lot of questions, which are as follows:

    1) This meeting has rekindled my interest in a question from RoW, that being what the deal is with transporting investiture and invested beings. We knew that Kalak cant world hop, and are told my Mraize (who might be lying) that radiants cant either because of their connection to the spren and roshar. Mraize also says his goal is to figure out how to transport investiture, seemingly to be able to get kelsier off of Scadrial. However, not only do we meet several highly invested ghostbloods from different worlds on other planets (twinsoul, maybe moonlight, and several Seons), but given kelsiers stated goals it seems like leaving Scadrial should be lowish on his list of priorities.

    2) A big deal is made about how the ghostbloods are a brotherhood. They keep no secrets from each other, they do not have infighting, they trust each other. However this seems to be demonstrably false. Most obviously, on roshar Mraize actively encourages conflict between his underlings to vye for position, and several of them attempt to murder shallan during her early initiation. And while this could maybe be excused as something Kelsier is unaware of given his restriction to scadrial (though that seems far feched given the apparently fanatic subservience to him by nearly all members of the ghostbloods), kelsier himself is not following his own rules. He pointedly avoids the question Marasi asks him of whether he himself keeps secrets from his underlings.

    2.5) Kelsier can no longer use Allomancy, for reasons that we can only speculate on. However, he seems to imply in his Seon call with marasi that he can use steel. Is he lying  to her and his followers, or does he have a work around?

    3) and finally, the biggest question to me, is why Sazed very clearly does not trust Kelsier. Sazed has, from the moment he took us Hamony and learned Kelsier was alive, obstructed kelsier, even if only by withholding information. He not only refused to, but lied about being able to return Kelsier to his body. He lied about the production of lerasium in the explosion in Wax's lab (As a note, sazed has clearly gotten better at lying to kelsier, probably through practice). He seems to have obstructed access through his perpendicularity, as the ghostbloods imply using it is difficult. He hides how dangerous the set and Autonomy are from Kelsier, despite an implication from Marsh that the three of them work together regularly. And, the very last line of their conversation in LM is a very strong implication that Sazed believes kelsier will one day be his enemy. Given Sazed has displayed a not inconsiderable ability to see the future, and holds the combination of two shards that could do the same, I find it hard to believe this was just an off handed comment. Not only that, but the potential conflict between the two is not because of a transformation into discord, but instead, "entirely up to [kelsier]."

     

    In summation, given the future sight, hiding his agenda, lying to his underlings, and inconsistent nature of the ghost bloods goals, it seems reasonable to assume that kelsier will be engaging in something notably beyond his usual level of morally questionable murder, very likely entering full on villain territory.

    It is not unsafe to name a child for Kelsier and if we were okay with his actions in TFE we should be okay with them going forward. Per WoB (That was given to me at JordanCon.)

    I specifically mentioned being concerned about Kell becoming a villain, for additional context.

    (In case you’re wondering: I named my daughter Vin. I did not know the gender when I asked the question.)

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  8. Ghostbloods symbol

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    8 hours ago, Elegy said:

    Yep! Also:

    This would be a plausible reason for why it "became important enough", because the Marewill flower has not become more important at all. But obviously, the Ghostbloods have.

    I imagine we can expect answers in Lost Metal . . .

    Either that, or our questions led Dragonsteel to go ‘hmmm…that could work…’ Making this ascended fanon.

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  16. I just finished BoM and I’m screaming [SPOILERS]

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    11 hours ago, Friendly Cremling said:

    Like the title says, I recently finished Bands  of Mourning and Secret history. My thoughts? WHAT IN HARMONY’S RUSTING FOREARMS JUST HAPPENED?!  Ok but seriously I’m pretty sure that spikes how he came back. I just don’t have any idea how he did that. Anyway, tell me your thoughts, because I’m bad at theories.

    Harmony? I think you mean the Survivor’s…

    Jokes aside, I love seeing your reaction. This is the best way to find out. Now go read Secret History for some answers - and more questions!

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