Rustbringer

@Calderis much appreciated mate, just saved a bunch of time and effort on Coppermind. At least I know now that I was right about their mindless splinters being contained there in the cognitive. Not forcibly pulled there. But thanks for educating me.

I was unaware of that chronological fact. I had assumed the shards deaths and the reod were the same event Also, simply the how of it doesnt sit right with me. That odium could simply move such an amount of power. Perhaps the cognitive realm is where they fought and died after being splintered first?

Wasn't that accomplished by the splintering of the shards that owned that power and causing the reod so the dor would be denied to the physical realm in any tangible amount? If not, how would Odium have been able to effect such a change in 2 different shards power invested heavily across the world without holding the shards themselves or sacrificing a portion of his power to do so.. I just assumed it was difficult for one shard to interfere with another. Albiet mindless and splintered it still retains its intent. Unless of course he had help(bavadin) in arranging the cognitive realm condition as well as splintering the two

I've never pondered that. Sounds like they've had their spirit web tampered with. A shard can mess with anything and hemalurgy testifies to the bizarre effects of altering a spiritweb. One can only guess at what effects such would have on something primarily of the cognitive realm. But now that you mention it, perhaps the name hints at a completely different origin altogether... They may not even be spren

That's because there's a difference between native investiture which is everywhere resultant from adonalsium creating everything and shardic investiture which is coloured by the intents of the post shattering shards investing their power into worlds or systems Id say the reason Sel is the way it is, is because the combined power of two opposing shards that were thoroughly splintered is all mixed together without a mind to channel themthe way Harmony did(ruin and preservation weren't splintered at all)or the form to work with. So it's just a volitile chaotic mess

The void spren are the equivalent of radiant spren that hail from the cognitive realm of Braize. So the Unmade are actually the equivalent to the Unique/greater spren of Roshar. The only difference being the Unmade are of Odium and for the most part willingly serve his will and intent. While the only greater spren of Honour we've seen so far is the Stormfather, a very large splinter. The others seem more inline with nature and Cultivation(the nightwatcher and the water spiral axies witnessed) and seem more localised and mundane manifestations as opposed to the Unmade going about the world like plagues

I think its fair to wager that one of the unmade is trapped within aimia.

It makes me wonder, about that little void spren that was leading the parchmen when kaladin travelled with them. Such a spren wouldn't have to try hard too manage that deceit given their nature, native abilities and let's not forget, culminated knowledge from across the desolations.

Well at least the realmatically significant part still carries. The metal is a key so it reacts with investiture in a significant way for an allomancer. I still think my theory feels right though. I dunno. I think I'll add the allomantic push and pulls are working more after the fashion of magnetism as opposed to surge gravitation.

You have me on Renarin. That never crossed my mind. I conceed

I meant simply that he certainly percieved his arm not being there and had absolutely no reason to expect it to grow back until it started to do so. The same reason the bridge four squires lost their brands(those who had them) but kept the tattoo that was over it. They saw the brands as an injury done to them. While the glyph tattoo was something they chose as a symbol of their brotherhood.

Yeah fair enough. The arm things silly. But to that effect. If you lost an arm you would only lose it in the physical realm. But just to put it out there. Lopen clearly accepted he had one arm, hence all the one armed herdazian jokes. But a missing arm is an injury to the physical body that doesn't quite match up with the spirit webs blue print. I think its that he never dwelt on it and let it upset him(also he's not exactly a normal bloke by any standards). Kaladins scars on the other hand are a different story. Kaladin would have to leave behind the darkness that afflicts him from everything hes been through. The scars have attatched themselves to the part of kaladin who thinks he's a product of his past. I'm thinking his next ideal will cover those. Possibly something about "forgiveness" if i was to make a wild guess

I was under the impression that allomancers(and other invested folk) had a bunch of investiture in them keyed to whatever shard it came from. Also that the burning of metals acts like a key to access said investiture in a certain way. We all know that metals are realmatically significant to allomancers and metal contains higher native investiture than other stuff. So id suggest that steelpush and iron pull are simply allowing the investiture in the allomancers body to interact with the investiture in the metals around them and the lines are part of it. What made me think of this was Waxs experience with the bands of mourning. Where he saw that everything was in the form of investiture. The people, the rocks... Everything. Then backing it up again I mention that he used allomancy to throw the stones that pinned him. Proving that the amount of investiture you hold is the deciding factor. Not the relative mass

It seems to me like you're forgetting the obvious. It's not about how you see yourself really. Lopens arm grew back not because he believed it should. Its because he percieved its loss as an injury, a damage to the body. Kaladins brands are yet to heal because he has accepted them into his cognitive self as a symbol of the bitterness he still holds for the wrongs done to him. Thats the difference. Healing through investiture will fix something that is perceived as wrong. Also on the soul casting an arm thought. I think maybe it'd be theoretically possible. Probably not. But isn't stormlight from gems part of soul casting? So couldn't the investiture be traded off to create flesh blood and bone from thin air and craft a compatible arm. Then use Dalinars surge of cohesion to attatch the arm to the person physically?

Id like to point out that the female radiant in dalinars vision of ancient Natanatan. Named and used the ability regrowth to heal the civilians wounds. That means she had the surge of progression. Narrowing it down to either edgedancers or truth watchers. Personally i lean toward edgedancer