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  1. hehe wouldn't it be funny if there was a game where you didn't know your own role
  2. It's that time of year, huh? Well, why stop voting for @Amanuensis now I know he'll probably refuse but that's no reason not to have the nomination. @Ashbringer @Sart @JNV if any of you feel like it, have nominations as well. The more the merrier. Anyone else I thought of off the top of my head has already received at least one nomination.
  3. Well, sorry for going after you hard Aman I did my best I uh, tend to swing pretty hard during LyLo. I do think you got pretty unlucky there. My options were that you were evil (a priori a 25% chance that anyone in particular is evil, although actually more realistically sitting at 50% at the time due to existing village flips plus knowing my own alignment -- personal credences can bend this probability up or down absolutely, but it's a good ballpark estimate of the rough neighborhood those credences should typically live around) or that multiple totally independent and pretty weird things happened (only 1 death N1, Kas dying, a priori either one of those two on its own seems significantly less than 25% likely, and when you multiply the two together, this v!Aman world looks even less likely). In fact, the second one was the correct explanation: skimming the elim doc, it seems the elims hit TJ and redirected JNV without particularly intending the consequences of making it seem like there was no N1 elim kill or making Kas vulnerable that night. That happens sometimes. The "most probable answer" isn't always the right one merely the most probable Alas, I don't have voodoo magic and space faeries to divine people's alignments only the more grisly post-mortem kind of divination, so when it begins to look rather overwhelmingly likely that e!Aman, I vote Aman with rather overwhelming prejudice Am I saying the elims didn't deserve the win? Nah, not at all Winning is half creating promising opportunities for lucky breaks to happen and half capitalizing on those lucky breaks when they do happen It's a fair and deserved win if ever there was one. And I'm pleased to see some strong plays from the newer players. GG folks. The stockpile mechanic was fun. The lack of spore explosions was somewhat surprising, but in retrospect, not actually very surprising. It's fundamentally not that different from how breaching Shards worked in LG95, and if we could never seem to manage to all grab the same charges when we were literally trying to in that game, it'd be truly depraved if we started doing it when this game where we were supposed to avoid it Thus we have come full circle and successfully repurposed a deficiency into a skill
  4. Bro what am I supposed to do with that If you're village, then it's clear you've already given up. If you're evil, then this vote is just really quite performative. Either way, you're not giving me much to reconsider Bro you were literally talking smack about Aeoryi self-voting D1 why would you do this if you cared about the village Edit: Anyways @Aeternum @RoyalBeeMage @JNV @The Bald Brandon @Hairybarron I apologize for the call-out but this is a wee reminder that none of you have voted thus far. So that we're all on the same page, these are some facts as I understand them. The elims probably win and end the game if they successfully execute a villager today. There are several ways they can try to achieve this, but one of them is that they can potentially execute a villager by all suddenly voting or changing their votes onto a villager at the last second of the day, giving us no chance to respond if the village votes aren't already strong enough at that point to outweigh them. Not all elim teams are actually able to pull this type of thing off, due to time zones and more generally just life happening preventing people from all getting online at the same time, but it also isn't that rare an occurence. There are probably 3 elims. Do what you want with that information This is my third and final post of the turn so you probably won't be hearing much more from me anyways.
  5. sigh. Amanuensis is evil. Evidence: Kas should not have died. As JNV has already admitted, they were supposed to protect Kas last night. Killing Kas should have been impossible without first addressing this. Could the elims hypothetically have gotten lucky and just randomly blocked JNV, which just happened to make their intended kill target vulnerable? Sure, that's hypothetically possible. Is it likely? Heck no! I don't think anyone has so many spare spore charges to burn that they would randomly interfere with JNV, who hasn't posted much, especially when there are alternatives like trying to interfere with the Crimson Spore shot tonight, and especially since it wasn't common knowledge that JNV started with a Roseite Spore. Anyways, JNV is just one of many players and it's just a lot of coincidence required for the elims to have hit the right target on accident. Therefore, it's much simpler to assert that the elims probably knew that JNV was protecting Kas. To the best of my knowledge, the only people who knew this and could've interfered with it were me, Aman, and JNV themselves. It wasn't me. Furthermore, I really don't think e!JNV kills Kas here: as best as I can tell JNV is literally always reluctant to kill Kas, and they especially had no reason to do it in this game where Kas was actively village reading and defending them. Add to the pile that JNV's reaction over Kas' death feels genuine. Add to the pile that the space faeries told Kas that JNV is village I really don't see how e!JNV works here. As far as I can tell, that leaves Aman being evil as the only plausible option, unless you want to vote for me. There should have been an elim kill on N1. Let's clear the air about something real quick: I didn't kill TJ. Aman didn't kill Raven. It's the other way around. I killed Raven. Aman killed TJ. On D2, Aman privately claimed to both me and Kas to have attacked TJ with a Crimson Spore he started with. And on N3, I attacked Raven with the Crimson Spore I obtained publicly from the stockpile. Why did we lie about this? Why did I claim Aman's kill? 1) So nobody would think to redirect me when I actually used my Crimson Spore and 2) because Aman wasn't claiming it publicly for some reason (Kas found it suspicious at the time tbhhh), and we kinda needed someone to claim it for the thread to make a lick of sense at that moment, so I just did it. Anyways, the lie is no longer useful to the village, hence why I've explained the truth. "Drake this is all very interesting and skillfully conveyed," you might reasonably say, "but why does it even matter? TJ and Raven are both dead," you cry, "who cares how it happened?" Well I'm glad you asked Let me explain why it's actually important: Aman could have lied about starting with a Crimson Spore. He could have killed TJ with the elim kill and only said he used a Crimson Spore that he happened to start with. This would be a bit strange, but it's honestly less strange than any of the other possibilities at this point, because at least it explains why there was apparently no elim kill: there was one, and Aman is just a liar. It's still extremely difficult to explain where the elim kill went if this isn't true. Want to theorize that the elim kill was somehow blocked? That looks pretty much impossible at this point, because nobody's claimed to have blocked it, and now that Aeternum weighed in on taking a Zephyr we know for sure that TJ can't have acted the night he died either. Want to theorize that the elims missed a kill? That's also looking very dubious, because Raven was village, and how many plausible "forgetful elim teams" are even left without Raven? We also have to rule out TBB from any proposed "forgetful elim team", I think. If you go back and reread the N1 thread, he literally posted a reminder to submit your actions less than an hour before the turn closed. I think it just plain doesn't work to assert that he made that post less than an hour before the turn ended and then forgot to have an elim kill. So who's even left? With each person we rule out, the theory looks less and less likely. Again, we are left with Aman being evil as increasingly the only plausible-seeming option. ...I'll also throw in that this isn't just my thoughts. Kas had a similar line of thinking, and identified <Drake, Aman> as the prime suspects for people who might deliberately use the elim kill on TJ, in the world where the elims didn't miss the kill accidentally (and as previously stated, it's looking more and more like that's the world we live in). And, well, it wasn't me If you think it was me, well, that's actually way harder to explain, because Aman still claimed to have shot TJ. If I'm evil, it requires that a somewhat unlikely coincidence happened where I happened to NK the same person Aman vig killed. Whereas if Aman is evil, no coincidence is necessary. Up to you I guess, but I think that's pretty convincing, personally Aman's votes and pushes have been bad. Sure, this is quite probably the point Aman will object most stringently to regardless of his alignment, but sorry bro I'm still gonna say it, because it does reflect on the verdict of your alignment Aman's D1 and N1 look bad: Judging by his claim to have vig killed TJ N1, v!Aman strongly suspected TJ. However, even though TJ was the second-most-voted person during D1, Aman was content not to vote for them, and instead allow someone he professed he thought was village to get executed. While I can sympathize with feeling put out by how the D1 discussion was going (true for anyone of any alignment, I suppose), I really cannot sympathize with not just voting for TJ if you were literally suspicious enough of TJ to vig kill him the next night and meanwhile had v!Aeoryi credences. It doesn't make sense. Maybe Aman developed much more intense TJ suspicions during N1, but I've seen no evidence of that thus far... and any explanation given now would be a little too late. If Aman were village and sincere in suspecting TJ enough to vig kill him, I feel like there would have been no reason not to vote TJ. Aman's D2 looks bad: As the day went on I didn't really love the Faerie push and I was vocal about giving reasons why I thought Faerie was potentially readable as village. Sure, the Faerie push wasn't all dirty (Kas, at least, was definitely village), but I'd be a bit surprised if it was all clean. Villagers push other villagers all the time, yes, but elims still do it more frequently still. I don't think the Faerie execution was good, and Aman's reasons for voting Faerie whilst understandable had nothing to do with Faerie's alignment. Aman's own method of reading people is based on seeing evidence that they are putting in effort to solve the game, and there is fundamentally not much evidence of effort to solve here. Aman's N2 looks bad: It would seem that Aman's favored targets for the N2 Crimson Spore shot were TBB and Raven. We know how Raven turned out, which to be fair is mostly on me. But I also don't really think TBB would have been a hit [edit: reconsidering this particular point...]. Again, sometimes villagers get it wrong, but elims do it more, and a strong read of any player is based not only on one or two big pieces of evidence but also on the accumulation of small reasons to trust and distrust tipping the balance. Aman's D3 looks bad: Simply put, the village is in a pretty unfortunate spot right now If we get today's vote wrong, we are all super dead, unless Hairy turns out to be an elim, in which case we're only probably dead For that matter, if Hairy is village, then we only have the votes to tie against the elims and get a coin toss, and only then if the village stands completely united against the elims, so yeah not great. This is the time and place to bring some urgency to bear, in my opinion. And I think if Aman were village, he would be feeling that. I feel it, even if I'm still abiding by my self-imposed 3-post-per-turn limit. It looks to me like JNV does. But Aman just doesn't feel urgent today. He's suggested an elim team but I'm not sensing any strong commitment or much effort put towards figuring out if his proposed elim team is the correct one or not. I think this is one of the most universal tells for finding eliminators in the final stretch of any game. [Edit: It is also generally Not A Great Sign that while Aman has apparently little investment in solving in the thread, he has been lobbying me hard in PMs today trying to throw shade on a whole host of other players. The agenda I see there is FUD, not game-solving.] Aman could have blocked JNV. Aman grabbed a Verdant Spore N1. This places him in a PoE with everyone else who had the ability to block JNV. This is a rather large PoE, so it's not exactly conclusive in of itself, but it's worth noting. Unless you want to commit to the prospect of e!JNV (which I've already given reasons against), there has to be at least one elim with access to a Verdant or Zephyr spore. I'll note that if push comes to shove, I'm pretty sure I could mechanically prove that I physically could not have interfered with JNV's actions. It remains that Aman is the intersection between "players who knew JNV was protecting Kas" and "players who had the mechanical power to block JNV" and that the elims certainly interfered with JNV's action. Means, motive, and opportunity are all present. The starting spore distribution implicates Aman. Arguments based on distro should always be taken with a grain of salt, I think, but they still exist for a reason, and I think we have enough of a grasp of the larger picture of the distro to make conclusions. Supposing for a moment that everyone's telling the truth about what they started with, this is what I have: Roseite (2) - Aeoryi, JNV Crimson (1) - Amanuensis Midnight (1) - Raven Sunlight (3) - Drake, TJ, Kasimir Zephyr (2) - RoyalBeeMage, Faerie Braids ??? (3) - Hairybarron, TBB, Aeternum There are multiple angles we can approach this from: We know that Raven started with a Midnight Spore. Kas pointed out that the village starting with both a Midnight Spore and a Crimson Spore is somewhat powerful, and while I didn't entirely agree with his reasoning there's still truth in the assertion. Especially in a setup where any player can gain powers (such setups typically tend to be a bit village-favoring, I think), it would be a little odd to give the village such a good starting spread of Spores. Raven was definitely village, so if one of them was lying and/or evil, it'd have to be Aman. We know that two players claimed to have started with Roseite Spores. Aeoryi and JNV. We know that Aeoryi was village, so like with explaining Kas' death, this pits Aman against JNV. If they aren't both telling the truth, then one of them is probably evil. Whereas if they are both telling the truth, then it is still the case that one of them is probably evil, since it makes sense that the kill and the protect would be positioned on different teams. Giving opposing teams opposing abilities so that they counterbalance each other is solid design. Is that enough reasons? ...If Aman is in fact evil, Aeternum and RoyalBeeMage are both decent candidates for evil teammates, although I'll note that if they're both evil teammates that's bad news cuz in that case we're probably done for cuz that means Hairybarron is village and inactive and rn we need every vote we can get. [Edit: TBB is also definitely in the running as a possible elim. Because he said he was going to do a Midnight scan last night, but today has shown very little interest in either sharing that supposed result or catching the elims today. At face value, it certainly looks like the point of that claim was to avoid getting killed last night, not to actually give the village any information. TBB being evil probably makes sense both in the case that Aman is evil and in the case that he isn't, but I still think Aman is the safest vote vis a vis definitely executing an evil person today. In retrospect, TBB is probably a more plausible evil teammate than Royal. For reasons that I will hold my peace about, it is hard for me to believe that evil Royal would claim to have tried to redirect Aman to Kas. Aman and TBB are likely an elim team. If we're lucky, the third is Hairy. If we're unlucky, then the third is probably Aeternum and the elims will probably just outvote us.] Anyways that's my final answer, vote for who you want me mateys but one way or another today will be decisive o7
  6. Everyone it is my opinion that vig shots are sacred if the heavens wanted us to vote on them they'd have give us another exe instead of a vig shot this is a fancy way of saying idk tbh Bro you use too many words it make my head hurt boil your soup! it's a good exercise and internal consistency check~
  7. Ahoy me pirate mateys, please be advised that I'm grabbing Zephyr tonight! This explanation is accurate, but in case you want a shorter one: A "flip" is the official reveal of a player's alignment when they die. When we talk about "flipping" someone, we are talking about killing them. Aye, full sail ahead and broadside the enemy! Don't hoard consumables, death is just around the corner!
  8. I would do what I want cuz a pirate is free. I would stun them with immense panache. I would kill everyone. This is the way. Tomorrow is the day to do or die (3v5), if we make the very reasonable assumption that there are 3 Deadrunners. I'd consider cooking up some kind of gambit to frame someone and secure a misexecution tomorrow, except I'm pretty sure there are people alive who should expect it of me. Anyways, if I were a Deadrunner, then I'd feel my team would be doing rather well at the moment, because I don't appear to be suspected by many, and the late vote swing onto a villager just gave me a terribly convenient reason to push Royal tomorrow (who is presumably an innocent villager in an evil!Drake world, because otherwise why would I have tried to get them executed?). Of course, I'm not a Deadrunner, just a normal pirate, yarr. What an interesting hypothetical! I was gonna make this joke I'm inclined towards the latter being the case, but that isn't necessarily exclusive with it also being the former.
  9. Kas admit it you read JNV by voodoo magic lil wee space faeries Raven fwiw I'm almost certain Kas is village, the reason why it feels like he's reaching is because he's used to understanding the game state and it genuinely bothers him when he doesn't Vote Tally RoyalBeeMage (3): DrakeMarshall, Faerie Braids, Kasimir Kasimir (1): TheRavenHasLanded JNV (1): The Bald Brandon Faerie Braids (1): Amanuensis Some people have voiced concerns that Faerie is voting for Royal, since Faerie is somewhat suspicious, but personally I think it's actually a slightly reassuring sign Yes, it means Faerie and Royal E/E is less likely, and if I were committed to the idea of an E/E connection, it'd be a red flag But it also means that v!Faerie credences are rising, and therefore that v!Royal credences are falling I think when you find yourself in a shortlist of suspects, it's extremely natural as a villager to gun for the other suspicious people, because with your perspective of the game state you likely have more reason than everyone else to believe they are evil, and what's more their flip might help clear your name. Whereas it is honestly not a very natural move for an elim to gun for the other suspects, because they know that even if they succeed in executing the other suspects before them, they will probably still die next, and dying a little later than you otherwise would have is cold comfort when your main objective is not dying. Therefore, they will generally try to delay and do anything but vote for the other people in the PoE with them. If they even have a concerted response, it will often be some flavor of focusing on undermining the points against them and/or on undermining the PoE itself. TL;DR - v!Faerie? e!Royal? e!Raven? maybe Or maybe Royal's village, I mean statistically most players are village, but I want a Royal flip though, sorry Royal Honestly I feel like there just isn't much information to read at this point, the voting engagement hasn't been that high and the D1 vote didn't feel like it helped my understanding much It's probably worth saying something about the present lack of strong Royal defense, but I kind of think the types of players who proactively defend Royal are similar to the types of players who make sure that they kill someone, so this type of argument holds a little less water than it might normally. Maybe the elims didn't kill, maybe the kill was blocked but nobody's claiming it for some reason, maybe they killed TJ for some reason -- I'm left hedging between possibilities. I think Aman is village, probably, but not for sure This is post #3 for me already which might be too brave but I dunno if I'll be back before EoD anyways Surely everything won't explode in the last 2 hours, right? right?
  10. I dunno what 4-worlds or 1-worlds or whatnot are but yeah basically this. Anyways, y'all might reasonably be wondering why Kas is so convinced TJ wasn't the elim kill. Well, I took a Crimson Spore yesterday. I suspected TJ. You do the math Hence why "where the heck was the elim kill???" is the million dollar question right now. Because it apparently wasn't on TJ, or at least, there's an explanation for TJ dying that doesn't require the elims to have done it. And it seems farfetched that the elims doubled up with my Crimson Spore shot, both because that's quite a coincidence and because TJ is inherently an odd pick for the elims to want dead. So where the heck was the elim kill??? This is why, if you used a Verdant Spore last night, it would greatly help everything if you spoke up about it. It would answer the question, and furthermore it would catch an elim. I cannot really think of any significant downside to revealing this information. I'm guessing though that there's no Verdant Spore user, since nobody has stepped up yet. So where the heck was the elim kill??? I don't think they killed TJ, I really don't. So to me, the plausible options that remain are: 1) The elims forgot to put in a kill. I don't believe this is necessarily quite as strange as you're making it out to be. An elim team can talk with each other about who to kill but just... never quite close the loop on submitting the order. It can feel awkward to be assertive on group decisions like that. I've been on teams that did this, and they weren't necessarily all inactive. It's why I make a habit of submitting placeholder orders early and changing them later as needed, because I perceive it as a real possibility on any team where I'm not doing that. 2) What if TJ used Zephyr to redirect an elim onto another elim? This is clearly what v!TJ would be trying to accomplish with a redirect (you might prefer to redirect an elim onto themselves, but Sart clarified that you can't use redirects in that way), so it's not that outlandish that he'd succeed at it. What if TJ redirected an elim Verdant user into roleblocking a second elim who was carrying out the elim kill? This would actually explain a few things about our situation: 1) it explains why there's no elim kill, 2) it explains why there's nobody claiming to have blocked the elim kill, and 3) it explains why my action wasn't interfered with even though imo a known Crimson Spore holder is a good target for interference -- maybe the elims tried, but TJ knocked their roleblock off course. I know this requires something oddly specific to have happened (TJ pulls off a prescient redirect that indirectly blocks the elim kill) but it just neatly answers every question I have about our current situation, idk. Anyways, there's only so much we can accomplish by worrying about it. We should probably focus on putting one foot in front of the other and voting. It's the only way the village can village. Vote Tally RoyalBeeMage (2): DrakeMarshall, Faerie Braids The Bald Brandon (1): Amanuensis Aeternum (1): Kasimir Not a lot of voting happening so far, is there? I think TBB is less likely than most to miss a kill or to double on TJ, so I would personally put TBB suspicions on the backburner. I think a RBM vote is still valid, as is a Faerie one. While I'd probably take Aeternum out of my slight village read category and back down to neutral, I do think Faerie or RBM is preferable.
  11. TBB is probably in my top 3 pirates I would be okay with throwing overboard today, but for the sake of diversity I'll nominate Royal Bee Mage to go for a swim. Along with TBB, RBM is one of the two (living) people I'd flag as Aeoryi bandwagoneers, and I actually kind of wonder if RBM sticks out more in light of how RBM played as a villager in QF70b. I'll confess I have little ability to read RBM especially because newer players are more likely to make bigger adjustments to their play, but village RBM generally felt a little less invested in securing a particular train, compared to RBM in this game jumping on the Aeoryi vote. Of the people hanging back in the D1 vote, I'd say Faerie most sticks out, which rounds out my top 3 list, but I consider Faerie lower priority to the other two. Such is the life of a pirate: no prey, no pay
  12. Oh gosh oh darn I hope nobody falls overboard tonight me mateys
  13. I don't really see it, but I'll take the free village read, yarr. It'd crossed my mind that if we hung a Deadrunner yesterday they might've tried to drag me down with them in a cataclysm of crimson, but I figured there was no sense in dwelling on it or in giving anyone ideas ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ particularly because Aeoryi was village.
  14. <TJ, Royal Bee Mage, The Bald Brandon> (late followers on the Aeo train) <Faerie Braids, Amanuensis, JNV> (abstainers) Loosely committed to the notion of the elim team being split within these two groups. Expecting 3 elims. That's all for now, yarr.
  15. Well ok then Guess it's another one of these kinds of D1s Vote Tally Aeoryi (6): Aeoryi, Kasimir, RoyalBeeMage, The Bald Brandon, TheRavenHasLanded, |TJ| |TJ| (2): Aeternum, DrakeMarshall The Bald Brandon (1): Hairybarron Spore Tally (unchanged since my last post) Crimson (1/1): DrakeMarshall Verdant (1/4): Faerie Braids Zephyr (1/5): TheRavenHasLanded Sunlight (1/7): RoyalBeeMage Undeclared: Everyone Else You keep saying this, and I hear ya, I do, but what do you think my spore tally is for? Well I'll tell you what it's for What I'm doing it for is so that people can coordinate grabs without blowing up. I believe being upfront about daytime grabs is advantageous, since it'll be revealed at the end of the day regardless, so I'm acting accordingly. Those who feel otherwise can do otherwise. The spore you (or anyone else) started with doesn't effect that, so while it's nice that you have a midnight spore, it's not going in my tally. Prejudice against faeries is unbecoming of you sir mood tbh anyways my vote's already in a reasonable spot from where I'm standing
  16. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ DrakeMarshall (•‿•)? Aeternum, RoyalBeeMage, Kasimir ¯\_(´ー`)_/¯ Aeoryi, TheRavenHasLanded, Amanuensis, Hairybarron, Faerie Braids (-_-) zzZ JNV ( ͡° ʖ̯ ͡°) |TJ|, The Bald Brandon ಠ_ಠ Vote Tally |TJ| (1): DrakeMarshall Aeoryi (1): TheRavenHasLanded TheRavenHasLanded (1): Aeoryi Nobody: Everyone Else Spore Tally Crimson (1/1): DrakeMarshall Verdant (1/4): Faerie Braids Zephyr (1/5): TheRavenHasLanded Sunlight (1/7): RoyalBeeMage Undeclared: Everyone Else After wildly gesticulating and emoting about different crewmembers, the principles of spore supply and demand, and other more confusing subjects, the mostly mute helmsman of the Crooked Moon stepped back up to the tiller to resume steering the ship in silence.
  17. The Crimson Spore is MINE. If any of you try and take it, you will die. I will drag you down to the deeps with me. That is all
  18. Well, if you're still looking for players and you haven't already done a distro and stuff, I enlist as the Dead Pilot Rob Hertz, the curiously taciturn and grey-haired, grey-eyed, grey-skinned helmsman who is only very infrequently mistaken for the more famous Dread Pirate Roberts. Also, the bizarre Drake gimmick of this game shall be: I will not post more than 3 times on any turn under any circumstances >:P
  19. Afaik I currently have 1 MR slot (not counting my joint MR with Striker which is on hold currently), right? I'd appreciate it if that number might be amended to 2.
  20. oh I had a half-guess that neil/ash might be a possible Informant (well, that or Contact. hindsight) and kinda took the vote on Archer as encouragement but ngl a lot of my reads of this game were just missing the mark anyways TJ I stand in awe of your ability to do rollovers at 3am
  21. I don't really believe you, and under these potentially LyLo circumstances I'll risk it.
  22. yeah, it does Vote Tally Archer (4): Ashbringer, DrakeMarshall, JNV, TheRavenHasLanded Sart (2): Archer, Stick. Stick. (1): Sart friendly reminder that if Faerie was the Informant then it's actually LyLo right now and that if anyone suddenly white knights Archer for a third time because 'nobody's defending him' or 'he's too wolfy to be a wolf' i will probably swear a vow of murderpuppy enmity upon you your whole family and your cow this is mostly a joke but also sorry Archer
  23. You probably thought this was going to be hinting at some juicy power role, but it was hinting at me, Dio here with some Archer iso analysis ig I actually just wanted to get some food and I'm back now so here goes Anyways I'd go through all of Archer's posts and scrutinize each of them and build evidence but tbhhhh I'm too lazy to do all that and anyways I think the first 4 posts he made in the game already builds a pretty strong case tbh Archer's First Post: (this one's actually NAI to be fair ) Archer's Second Post: Bolded part indicates that he's aware that the Informant isn't anonymous. The explanation I gave specifically noted that the Informant wants to blend in and look like an elim in the elim doc, which doesn't coexist with the belief that they are anonymous. Again, Archer knew that the Informant wasn't anonymous in the doc. This was all at the beginning of C1. Now, C3, Archer's trying to feign that he never knew how any of that elim doc stuff worked: Clear-cut lie, idk what else to say. He realized he needed something to get himself out of the fire today so he tried to derpclear himself.
  24. im ngl still think Archer is Evil tbh I actually have a pretty good reason I swear I'll share it in a bit
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