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Hi Sharders, long time lurker, first time poster. I was just reading the lost metal for the 3rd time when I realized something. Teslin talks about Harmony turning into Discord as if she had first hand knowledge of the subject. How did she know? And whomsoever told her, how did they know about it? From a reader's perspective, it seems quite common knowledge since we have access to both Era 1 & 2 books along with our theory board but for an in-universe character to talk about the changed state of a divinity with such confidence seems out of character. Your thoughts?

Holy storming rust!!!! Is the reference to stuttering a direct confirmation that Taravangium retained his variable intelligence and empathy condition even after ascension?

I think Restates will be one of Shallan's presumed dead family members.

Yupp. It's Vin and Tensoon all over again. "Formless" is the lightweaving spy employed by Mraize.

Stupid autocorrect. Changed unmade to jade. Do we have an WoB then about Honor's perpendicularity on Toshar? Cuz I was under the assumption from all the talk about Honour's perpendicularity being dangerous and unpredictable, that they were talking about the highstorm only.

Hey guys, just had a weird thought. If the highstorm is Honor's perpendicularity, then is the everstorm Odium's perpendicularity? For that matter, does that mean that every unmade, being a concentration of investiture, can be used as a perpendicularity?

But Lift can breathe stormlight. She does it at the end of 3rd book when Dalinar opens up Honor's perpendicularity.

Could everstorm be the 10th unmade that was created after the breaking of Tal'n? Odium will be controlling it's movement like a trainer controls a newborn pup's movement until it becomes self aware enough to develop its own personality, like some of the unmades have?

Isn't there a recent wob in which Brandon described the encounter between Hoid and Frost the Dragon? Iirc, Hoid said his goal was to make whole again that was lost? So here's my theory: The reason Adonalsium was shattered in the first place was because a group of people decided that a) either too much power concentrated into a single vessel is not a good idea or 'b) the power could be used more effectively if it were shattered without the conflicting intent of each shard not rendering the vessel basically incapable of taking any action. We have already seen that holding two diametrically opposite shards makes the shareholder very restricted in the decisions he can take. So, what happens to a vessel who is holding 16 shards? What if even though all Shards are not pairwise diametrically opposite to each other, but the vector sum of all 16 shards is 0, if that makes any sense. This would also play into the original shardholders' decision to not mingle with each other and Bavadin's annoyance at the shardholders' unwillingness to follow through on this decision. By imbibing the magic system of all 16 shards, what Wit is essentially trying to do is provide a proof of concept that all 16 powers can reside in a single vessel without the vessel relinquishing his autonomous decision making power as long as the contribution of each shard is relatively small? Which means that the original Adonalsium could have been shattered in a different way. Instead of shattering into 16 seperate intents with each Shard holder having 100% of its intent, Adonalsium could have been broken into 16 seperate shards, but each shard having access to only 1/16th access to each intent's power? Here's how to current and proposed format will look like Current Adonalsium = 256 power points With each intent getting 16 power points Honor's power points = 1/16 of Adonalsium = 16 power points Harmony's power points = 2/16 of Adonalsium = 32 power points And so on for each shard Proposed Wit = 1/16 of Adonalsium = 16 power points but by combining 1 power point of each intent (1 for Honor + 1 for Ruin + 1 for Preservation ....) So basically, there will be 16 mini Adonalsiums with all of the intents instead of 16 (now 15) individual intent shards. Wit himself said in the aforementioned encounter that the old rules don't apply anymore so Frost doesn't know what is and isn't possible. And he's just trying to find a different way of making Adonalsium while again but bypassing the incapacitating restrictions of mingling of different shards.

Do you have a WOB for that?

Does anyone have a theory as to how exactly these artificial orbits of the moon were created? As a follow up, are the moons themselves naturally occurring celestial objects or were they a result of some radiant related activity? ( I can't think of anything else powerful enough to create artificial moons)

So now that we know that even the oathgates have sprens, I think I have a theory on the third Bondsmith spren. It's the spren of Urithiru. The reason the tower of Urithiru dues not function properly is because it's actually the physical manifestation of the sibling. The stormfather, while discussing the sibling with Dalinar says that you disturb them enough at it is. I suppose people poking and prodding the entire tower on a daily basis could be construed as disturbance. Additionally, the tower can only become fully functional only when someone has bonded the spren, providing it sentience. Otherwise, the tower (read: physical body) regresses back to its basic functioning like a storm or a windspren. And only someone who can understand the tower intimately will be able to bond its spren. An additional point of thought is the refusal by sprens of Thylenah's oathgates to grant entry to Shallan from cognitive realm. They told her that they have been forbidden to do so by someone. Stands to reason that such an order can only be given by a spren that ranks higher then them. Say a spren of the building that has all ten oathgates. What do you guys think?

Hoid used breathes to reawaken the doll. He had a discoloured patch on his robe after he commanded the doll. Luckily for him, now that he had bonded a cryptic, he should be able to harvest stormlight directly

Couple of points regarding Hood: 1) Before bonding with the cryptic, Hoid already has access to allomancy, feruchemy, breathes, and elantrian magic (he talks about his hair coming off in chunks, which we know, can be done by the chemical that the monk drank on Elantris) 2) Hoid also has access to the moon sceptre, which is kind of a Rosetta stone. I'm assuming one of its abilities is to provide the end user with access to all kinds of investiture. Regarding the cryptics: 1) They have been looking at Elgokar for a long time now. 2) At his death, Elhokar was about to bond one 3) When Spren cross over, it's a leap of faith for them. They don't know if they'll ever bond anyone. And until they do, they roam around mindlessly. It's the same reason that the comet Spren that was following Eshonai around started following Venli around after her death. The Spren should not go back. The cryptic that Elhokar was about to bond, has already crossed over, and thus could not go back. It has to find another host. Taking all this into account, it seems like Hoid enticed the Spren with truths to bond with him. Recall guys conversation with Shallan when he used lightweaving. He told her that the Shards on this planet are very strict. I interpret it as that while Hoid was able to imbibe in himself the magic from other planets by hacking or shortcuts (burning a bead instead of snapping, borrowing breathes already collected by everyone else, drinking a chemical instead of being born in Elantris), the only way he could get surgebinding is by bonding a Spren. That's why his Fortune took him to that palace. Regarding the voidbringers, do note that their entire focus from the start had been on capturing Kholinar. And they were not tearing down the whole palace, just specific section of it. Seems to me that the enemy had knowledge of something hidden inside the palace at Kholinar which he really really wants and that's what the parshendi were searching for.

Wisdom?