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Djarskublar

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  1. I really need some hugs right now. I just had a really nasty fight with my father and I just need someone to be sincerely nice to me. Please and thank you for anything genuine. I love you guys.
  2. Well I'm pretty sure we can at least say the sword has a mind, since Azure refers to it as 'she' at least once. I suppose it's possible that it's in the same way as other things like ships that are referred to as male/female without any good reason, but that doesn't seem terribly likely to me. I thought it was a sweet moment, but really Hoid, how much Breath do you have to just use it to make a nifty toy for a little girl? I imagine Azure has quite a lot too, since she was asking for cloth-people cutouts in bulk to fight the Fused.
  3. The problem with looking for the resonant frequency of Fused gemhearts is that they won't all be the same, so you'd have to find the individual exact frequency every time, which is obviously impractical from the perspective of your approach. On the other hand, you may be able to just have the illusion play a scaling tone, a la computer music. As for other uses, the full invisibility via bending light has the problems described, but the easy solution is to just make your arms and weapon(s) invisible. It's much harder to effectively block a weapon you can't see, even if you can generally guess where it is based on posture. Embed little gems onto arrows/throwing knives and make those invisible. Get a volley of those going, and they literally won't even know what hit them! Or where the volley came from if it was from behind a hill. That'll sow some serious confusion :D. Without seeing the volley, peeps are less likely to raise their shields on a battlefield too. It'd be hard to set up, though, at least with the current numbers of Radiants.
  4. The problem with what you've said here is the source of forgiveness. For Dalinar, its Evi he's looking to forgive him. For Wayne, Wax forgave him, but the children of that man clearly haven't. Dalinar is, well, Dalinar. He's the only one outside the Sadeas princedom saddened by Torol's death. It's less about if they are forgiven, and more about if they got the forgiveness they wanted/deserved/earned.
  5. Pg 405 US hardcover Stormfather says it starts with the Voidbringers, then "As I SAID, MY VIEW..." The 'as' isn't capitalized. It's kinda hard to notice because only 'As I' is on that line in the book.
  6. Well, since Twinborn isn't on this list, I picked Hemalurgy since that can give me that. Plus all the others if I don't mind looking like a pincushion. As for what Twinborn, iron/iron is my favorite. They are the most mobile of any power set we know of, and have great destructive potential. I even prefer it over being a Steeldancer. Of course, since it's Hemalurgy you could just get all 4 and really be able to do crazy mobility stuff. Also, you could potentially spike away the ability to become Elantrian, which is without question the most powerful cosmere magic. And with the power and knowledge of both, you could do many things that are simply absurd. And while I'm at it, just grab Allomantic gold to do cognitive manipulation shenanigans.
  7. That wasn't the point I was making. I was making the point that you don't necessarily have to rely on the dozen or so Shardpools in existence in order to worldhop. I can imagine scenarios where people would migrate to Roshar before H/C got there, possibly even pre-Shattering. I just can't reconcile the idea of native humans with them both not having a natural spren symbiosis and the Listeners feeling betrayed by the spren going to them. I take the spren going to them to mean they have 'juicier' thoughts that shifted how the spren perceived themselves, potentially completely changing a some types to other types. Who knows what kinds of effects that could have.
  8. @SilverTiger well that doesn't say much about it, actually. Dalinar speaks the Dawnchant in his visions, so the language was used at least by the desolation Nohadon was part of. I can see situations arising where both humans and Parshendi end up speaking the Dawnchant, and then desolations messing with languages which we can pretty much be certain happened. Especially since I think one of the OB readings (not the pre-release chapters, but it might have been a WoB) had some ardents talking about how the desolations could have easily made the Dawnchant disappear along with civilization from some desolation. I don't think it's really a big deal what language they speak because the desolations can do all kinds of funky stuff.
  9. When you spend the day frantically going back and forth trying to get a cohesive theory post out there while also keeping up on the Shard Discord. Which is surprisingly active, you should check it out if you haven't.
  10. Edit: Thanks Tesh, now I can make the meme, so here it is:
  11. Mistborn AoL WoK and minor Edgedancer Warbreaker Edgedancer
  12. I'd bet they just remake the fan film of the Chasmfiend fight we already have. Cuz that's pretty sweet. They'd need to change it up so that you see Plate in comparison to regular soldiers.
  13. Fair. Though we know there can be non-Shard based perpendicularities. First of the Sun is the obvious go-to, but Surgebinding can also create mini ones. I just see no reason to believe that humans are native since they don't have a natural symbiotic relationship with the spren like basically every other even moderately intelligent species there (with the possible exception of the Aimians, but who knows what's up with them). They are also completely unadapted to the environment. I just can't accept that they were there in the first place since they suck at being there so much (relatively).
  14. My statement about the inbreeding is not false. Just because it happened a long time ago and probably not for that long doesn't change that. My current guess as to how it came about is war related rape. The point is that they are not a separate race, and as you said are basically human. I see zero reason to believe that the Shin are native. They just live where the Highstorms aren't nearly as big a deal, as well as having a highly isolationist culture. That says almost nothing about their origins. It's been a while since I've read that WoB so I accept that I'm likely wrong about Aimians having one language. That was me not remembering and guessing based on in-book stuff that's pretty tenuous. I stand firm on the idea that there are no humans native to Roshar. Else, the Listener songs wouldn't make sense. I don't think the Listeners would feel betrayed by the spren focusing on humanity if they were already there in the first place. They would have already been focusing on the humans.
  15. I'd say Snapping is like flipping the switch into an 'on' position, and burning is plugging in the LED to complete the circuit (after all, the metal is the filter that determines outcome, like the color of an LED). I liked you mentioning not snapping too hard because of funky chemicals. That might be an apt way to describe savantism. Might. We really don't know since I think there are some retcons being planned. Identity is more like a serial # or a lock/key. With Feruchemy, if the metalmind doesn't have the right serial #, you can't access it. For medallions, I describe it as blank metalminds are like having a lock with one tumbler, so anyone with a key can get in, and unkeyed metalminds are basically taking away the lock entirely. Intent is more cognitive in nature. If something doesn't match the Intent of a Shard, they can't push the power through the Intent's cognitive filter to make things happen. Selish magic is location dependent for a couple reasons. Dominion makes it cultural-geographically based, and then the fact that the Dor isn't everywhere and nowhere in the Spiritual Realm, it is in the CR makes it so the power can only reach certain areas (Sel). Happy to help you get some discussion. I know the feel. Really well.
  16. Horneaters are the result of human/Listener inbreeding. Herdazians too. Sorry to break your idea. It was pretty clever. We don't know much of anything about the Aimians, even whether they are native or not. I could see it going both ways. I also would guess they have one language, based on some minor Edgedancer spoilers. @Hawkido The thing with your argument as it stands is that you don't have evidence, and there is WoB counter evidence that is conclusive. If we can't trust WoB (in so far as we don't have reason to believe he simply made a mistake) then there really isn't any point in being here. Continuing the discussion would be analogous to believing that vaccines cause autism, when they absolutely do not. That might be too politically charged of an analogy, but nothing else is coming to mind. There isn't necessarily anything wrong with stream of conscious ideas or just spit-balling ideas, but when you start basing new spit balls on spit balls, you enter dangerous spit puddles waters. I'm not really one to talk about that, since I'm more often guilty of it than most people around here, but I do try to base my new ones on old ones that have a reasonable amount of evidence. Like I said before, a large body of our knowledge is still technically theory, since we can't get direct confirmation for everything all at once, so in a sense almost everything we talk about here does that to some extent, but that is basically a technicality. We do have a solid network of implications that allow us to guess pretty accurately, or at least based on the right premises. New people just usually know almost nothing of that network, and it's impossible to bring them up to speed within a single topic. So it may look like we are just being contradictory, but we are really just unable to bring to bear all the tangential evidence. As for the community toxicity, this is an extremely tame forum. I get that we scare off a lot of casual readers because we know scary amounts of stuff and rabidly want to share. On the other hand, it's pretty rare that we are outright rude to newcomers, just firm that their ideas often don't match up with books/WoB. The only real exception to that is when they enter already hostile, confrontational, and/or trollish. If people are reasonable, we welcome them with open arms. We just hold people to standards (of conduct, not knowledge) that are more strict than your average forum. I would be very happy if most of the rest of the internet became like this. The sad thing is that those standards really just amount to being logical, reasonable, and polite, and we really only require the logic in the theory areas. Some people simply don't know how to do one or more of those, at least online, and eventually get angry and leave. It's disappointing, but better than the alternative. It did, indirectly. We got told that Frost is not a worldhopper, and that Vessels are worldhoppers basically by default, even if they stayed on Yolen.
  17. Yeah I know what you're talking about, but that wasn't separated from him like that, it was just in an inaccessible physical form, and then put into the pool of power that is just going to slowly return over time. It wasn't 'destroyed' in the way NB does. It also wasn't made permanently inaccessible before or after. Cultivation isn't necessarily wounded. She might not be able to move in and finish him off for reasons unknown or guessable. And yeah, I'm pretty much saying someone/thing must have knocked a chunk of his power off. The question is then when and how.
  18. I wake up and see that my topic has 5 replies and I get excited, and then it turns out to mostly be this... thanks guys Maybe the wound is more that he no longer has a Connection to a portion of his power. That's my line of thought based on what Khriss says in AU about Ambition. I can't believe that that fight was totally one-sided, so that seems like the best candidate for where his wounds came from. As for what we saw with Preservation, I think that was more about the clash of intents damaging the Vessels. I would be willing to bet that if someone else had been holding R or P at the time (you know who), then they wouldn't have necessarily suffered the same injury, or at least not to the same extent. Besides that, the damage appeared to be basically temporary, though the constant pressure eventually would break a long time holder. Also trying to be vague here, not sure it's working.
  19. Based on this passage in the new chapters: I am led to believe that Odium is not, and never will be again, in top fighting shape. To hazard a guess, I'd say he got wounded killing Ambition and lost chunks of power like Ambition did. That might be a partial cause of the Evil, or the shades. That is assuming a lot though. Also, what does the Stormfather mean by 'forces?' My initial assumption was Cultivation, but I don't think it has to be that simple. Maybe the 'survival' Shard is actually just lying in wait for the day Odium over-extends himself. This Shard doesn't have any of its power tied up in a planet, while Odium is Invested at this point, and apparently wounded to boot. Maybe the other Shards, known or not, are watching closely to pounce on any mistake Odium makes. Maybe the worldhopping community has some potential plans they could put into motion if things start heating up. I don't know that any of these are likely, but I do think that, whatever the answer, this is going to be important, at least behind the scenes. I was always a bit bothered that it seemed Odium came out on top of all these fights without any sign of injury. I guess that wasn't the case, which makes me feel a lot better.
  20. The reason Mr T is scary is because he actually has a good chance of being right. And because of that, I don't think it matters if he is even close to right. That isn't the point. The point is that because it appears to have a chance, he can attract devout followers, just like any other cult. That is what is scary.
  21. I'm calling it now: that Bridge 13 guy is totally either a diagramist or some other assassin. An incredibly confident one, at that, considering his talking back. I would not be the least bit surprised if he was an assassin mole set up by Ialai from the time between the sale of the bridgemen and them starting to get their lives back together. They were all too uncaring and depressed to notice one more person, and since that person wouldn't be quite able to mimic that state, they would be in the best condition and therefor able to become squad leaders. I'm fine with Dalinar and Kaladin mostly trusting Bridge 4, but the rest of the crews are just as suspect in my mind as the next person. I find it especially threatening considering that he mentioned the assassination. My impression of that was that he was subtly either threatening Dalinar or implicating him. I thought Navani's observation about him rolling around with sweaty men particularly entertaining, but he should have retorted that at least he wasn't waist deep in a latrine Then she even called his sword practice stick-wagging. She must really like her phallic symbols... I'm glad we got confirmation on how to spell Evi. (for those that didn't know, it's pronounced like the pokemon eevee) In retrospect I'm not sure why we were so hung up on knowing her name outside of crazy theories that she was Vivenna or something. This was the thing that interested me the most, personally. It finally answered why picking a champion was even an option/consideration for Odium, which has been bothering me in the back of my mind for a long time now. This is also interesting because it means Odium isn't at 100% and likely won't ever be again. I assume those injuries were from a straight slug fest with one of the Shards he killed (or Cultivation, but I doubt that one). My initial bet is that those injuries came from his fight with Ambition. I'm going to need to make a thread dedicated to this. This has some serious implications all around. I am confused on one point of timing. How could it be that he married his wife to get Plate for the son he would have with her in the future?... I must be missing something here, but I can't figure what for the life of me. I mean, it could have gone to one of his men, but that doesn't seem normal to me. Yeah, it's Plate, but getting it by marriage, then giving it to someone else doesn't make sense to me. Beyond that, how did Adolin end up with it after that? This wasn't all so long ago that whoever he would have given it to should be dead. They had Plate, so they were pretty safe on the field, and it hasn't been long enough for a soldier to get old and die. Beyond that, if they did die prematurely but before it was worth giving to Adolin, it would have been passed to someone else. Dalinar may not have had much control over that, and even less for getting it to Adolin. On the other hand, I can't see them leaving it in storage for 10+ years waiting for an heir to become worthy of it while they are trying to unify Alethkar. I just don't get this point at all. This is probably going to be answered in a flashback, and is the flashback I'm most interested in right now, even more than Evi's death. While the other two chapters had a lot of interesting things in them, I don't really think I'm ready to chip in on those.
  22. Hmm... Well I'd like to see that. I guess I could see it being the Iriali. I guess I'll rummage around Page's collection.
  23. I see no reason NB would not grant surgebinding on Roshar. I don't think he'll necessarily give one of the ten known pairs of surges. He might grant, say, Lightweaving and Gravitation. If anything though, I think he will mimic a highspren. It'll already be hard enough for Brandon to work in this sword that isn't a standard spren or an Honorblade, let alone one with a strange pair of Surges. He wants the casual reader to not be confused too badly, after all.
  24. Okay... how to put this gently? Hawk, you don't have any actual evidence. You have a few observations about things in-book, some of which Brandon has told us are false outright. What you don't have is a logical chain of events, just haphazard guesswork. The thing is though, your guess is almost as good as the next. The topic here of what's up with Roshar has very little information, so there is no way to disprove your claim. You could theoretically be right. On the other hand, your idea goes completely against what I feel the flavor and tone of SA is going for. Also, it would cast a long shadow over a LOT of solid theories and generally accepted headcanon. While that isn't exactly factual, it is a heavy weight to counter, so you need plenty of solid evidence to change that. Note: a lot of that headcanon we know to be approximately true, we just can't ask Brandon everything. Case in point, it was practically certain that Hoid wrote the letter in WoK, but it was years before we got actual confirmation. Stick around a while and see what's really up. I like getting new perspectives, but it's very rare to see a new member come out with anything that has great potential, at least in the magic/worldbuilding side of things. It isn't unheard of, though, so read up on some recent theories to get a better idea of things, then use that imagination of yours to impress. I look forward to your future, even if you've had a rocky start. Out current best-guess timeline is something like H/C come, Oathpact formed and Heralds made, Odium comes, some desolations, Radiants appear, more desolations until they stop, events of the fall of Vorinism including the Recreance, Honor is killed, current events. @Yata why do you think there are humans native to Roshar? I thought it pretty well confirmed that there are no native humans. We know H/C brought humans with them. That doesn't preclude native humans, but I think what we know about the Listeners and their history suggest there were no humans at first. Also, they don't have any naturally occuring spren bond like pretty much every other sentient species there, with the possible exception of Aimians, since we know almost nothing about them. I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that there are humans native to Roshar, and plenty of circumstantial evidence that there are none. I can't call to mind a specific WoB disproving you at the moment, though.
  25. I would choose an iron twinborn. Most people might call me crazy, and it wasn't one of the original options, but meh. Iron twinborn actually have better aerial mobility than any other power we've seen. The ability to change your mass let's you pull off something similar to Vin's horseshoe wheel with a single item with nothing touching the ground. Iron feruchemy is also really good at letting you jump really high. Like, escape velocity kinds of jumps. And a massive tap combined with a tackle is scary. Scarier than Kal's multi-lashing into that shardbearer in the disadvantaged duel, since you can make it a lot stronger at much simpler demand. The ability to compound also makes it absurdly easy to pull off some off the more spectacular feats possible that would normally drain someone like Wax dry. I feel like feruchemical iron is very underrated by the community. Also, threads like these have always been pretty silly. At least they aren't the infinitely long 'who wins in a fight' threads...
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