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I suspect that there were Nahel bonds between singers and intelligent spren before, but they didn’t grant as much of the powers of surgebinding until however the Knights Radiants were founded. Leshwi obviously had a close relationship with an honorspren, which I suspect was the old type of Nahel bond. We also saw ancient singers creating stone tools from that memory of the stones Venli saw when experimenting with stoneshaping. I think Adolin may be on track to a similar version of an old, less formal bond with Maya, before the oaths of the Knights Radiants were needed.

More frightening to me is that these sleepless are terrified of some unknown enemy. They’re basically immortal hive-minds that can eat investiture, but nope, there’s something much worse out there.

I don’t think it works that way. The light in the tube was voidlight, just a voidlight that was isolated from the constant tones of Roshar, and more specifically, Odium’s tone. Navani likens it to polarity, where it can either have a regular state or the anti state. If you subjected that light to Honor’s or Cultivation’s tone, I believe it would do nothing to it, just as using a tuning fork using Honor’s tone to draw out stormlight from a gem would do nothing to voidlight in a gem.

I think I remember that it’s much easier to soulcast in Shadesmar for whatever reason. And Shallan wasn’t doing anything complicated like food. She did a basic soulcast into smoke.

Reread Wintersteel from Will Wight, the latest book from his Cradle series (8 so far). It’s heavily influenced by xianxia fantasy (Chinese martial arts fantasy). One of my favorite series for some good exciting action and power growth.

If plate works the same way for all orders, it kind of shows how paranoid Jasnah is during battle. If her plate works the same way, it was always around her already, ready to come to her defense. But she doesn’t even trust that when taking a break, just leaving her head bare to eat and drink. Don’t really blame her though, after her experience on the ship.

You also have to consider that Rayse/Odium long ago was much more dangerous than he is now. The Odium of long ago ripped through Shards like paper one after another. The Rayse we see in this book is a washed-up, strung-out mind barely hanging on to the power. He may have eventually killed Honor, but it cost him. That said, Odium has always been more dangerous than Ruin in my mind, and not because of the power of Shards. I doubt very few would willingly follow a being that only wants to destroy everything. Only beings that Ruin dominated with hemalurgy were fighting for them. But there are plenty of angry people out there that would follow a diety that understands their rage and will help provide retribution.

I get all that, but it bothers me that there is enough understanding about sound and vibration that Navani knew about the theory of noise cancelation, and yet no one thought to apply it to fabrials? That shows a high understanding of the principles of sound, but a incredible myopia about applying it in their technology. Even by accident, it would have been as simple as leaving one half of a conjoined fabrial in a bowl while speaking loudly near the other half. That said, much of the ideas of conjoined fabrials aren’t logical, especially when thinking about whether you can use one while riding a moving vehicle, or ignoring the spinning of the planet. Perhaps if you don’t intend a fabrial to transmit the vibrations from sound, it won’t work. Still dumb of them not to figure it out.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought Mistborn era 2 was after the first five Stormlight books? Hoid still seems to be his usual self doing his shenanigans with Wax in those books. He might have trouble in the next Stormlight book, but probably not after that. It would be fun if the consequence of what T-Odium did caused a similar problem to Hoid as with the heralds. It might tie into finding a cure for the madness that is afflicting the heralds.

My pet theory: they do an Oathpact except with multiple Shards (Honor + Odium + maybe Cultivation). So ten people get together and share the burden of God’s power, in a similar fashion as the heralds. This lets them wield the power with less “corruption” from the shards.

Guns don’t have to use gunpowder to fire. It has to be a smokeless explosion with little residue. I could easily see a substitute using fabrials and two gems filled with stormlight and anti-stormlight, where only a small amount of each is released into a small gem fragment at the base of a bullet at the pull of a trigger, causing an explosion. Eject the casing with the powdered gem remains, then reload with a new bullet. If you can pressurize the storm light mix somehow, you might not even need a gem fragment. Especially with two ‘Razium’ wires from the gems.

Is anyone baffled by the level of technology that Navani and her artifabrians understand/employ? Most explicitly, this book has Navani showing high understanding in sound and vibration, even going so far as creating a sound that cancels other sound, something I don’t think happened until around the 1930s and more practically in the 50’s. Yet none of the fabrial engineers have had the idea of applying the idea of vibration=sound to fabrials and creating a device that transmits sound, something that is as easy to understand as is the idea of tying two cans two a string? They seem know enough about windmills to understand that they can use gears to wind up weights in a shaft, yet they don’t apply that understanding to their flying craft, and rather just have chulls move back and forth across a field? It’s a small thing to complain about, but enough of an issue that I decided to rant about it in this forum.

Yeah, I feel that as well. As is shown in the book, I’m pretty sure Intent, with a capital “I,” is key.

I guess every Radiant is going to have to learn how to sing the Honor tone to cancel out the anti-stormlight tone the singers will hum. Eventually things will escalate until the war is just a big battle of marching bands, attacking with anti-tones while defending with pure tones. On a more serious note, Lightweavers are sounding more OP in this musical world.

I think things will change quite a bit with anti-stormlight. I suspect being stabbed and injected with anti-stormlight will be far more deadly to a Radiant, and perhaps interfere with healing abilities. Odium’s forces will be able to implement it much easier and faster than the Radiants, as they already have the weapons needed to inject stormlight/voidlight, and stormlight is much easier for both sides to obtain compared to voidlight. That said, it probably would be easier for Radiants to kill Fused with anti-voidlight than for Fused to kill the spren of Radiants.