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Orlok Tsubodai

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  1. From a sense check point of view, I’d note that it doesn’t make a great deal of sense for Devotary, myself, and Steel all to be village (unless there’s a hiding Pinch Hitter) and Devotary and myself were both elim kills.
  2. Doesn’t it imply e!Steel, given we know I was trolled by Aman? Edit: missed your own edit
  3. Going to go with Steel. I haven’t had time to look through the dependencies of others, but know at least that confirming Steel makes his tie guy scan materially more useful. Still asking for a pinch hitter for myself, too, but not holding out hope
  4. To clarify, I wasn’t getting Steel and Striker confused - the bit I missed was Bookwyrm’s scan of Striker, so had thought that we were reliant on Steel having copied Striker’s role as verification that lynchbait worked as Striker suggested. For now, then, JNV
  5. Honestly, I hadn’t even registered that e!Bookwyrm was necessary for e!you. I’m trying to play this whilst still in the middle of work, eleven hours into my working day, with no end in sight. What I actually wanted to do was scan you, because I had thought your alignment was less confirmed in an e!Steel world. I have Bookwyrm’s role this cycle. I will happily move my vote elsewhere if a scan on someone else would unpick a greater number of dependencies. My other thought had been to scan Steel, so as to tell us whether or not his tie guy result can be trusted.
  6. Forgive me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is that one of the dependencies on Amanuensis’s own alignment is Steel’s verification of the lynchbait role? I remain somewhat perturbed by Aman immediately withdrawing himself from the tie after I first announced I held the tie guy role for the cycle.
  7. To clarify, you’re suggesting we add our votes to the trains on the basis that it won’t pollute the results?
  8. @Amanuensis, glad to hear it. For the record, and to set expectations, the second pinch hitter request is from me. Work has become much more intense than expected, and I’m regularly doing 12 hour days and weekends, so just can’t devote meaningful time to the thread with any reliability.
  9. How does this account for worlds where the two new voters (yourself and Steel(?)) are not confirmed villagers? Ideally, we need our voting set to be a subset of those who voted last time, or a superset with the addition of one or two players. Swapping players in risks e.g. losing one eliminator vote from TJ not voting, but bringing one in because you are now voting, and giving us no ability to distinguish between you being an eliminator or the eliminator being one of the the rest of the group.
  10. Can completely relate to Steeldancer. We had a brief period of a more manageable thread, but nearly 20 pages in 48 hours is simply not manageable. I haven’t played in a while, and don’t know whether this is a phenomenon new to this game, or a trend, but do think it’ll split the community if unaddressed. On a happier note, the result I got was that of the eight players involved in the tie, two were Eliminators and six SE players.
  11. My understanding is I get a count of the number of eliminators voting on the players tied in the lead. I think we shouldn’t dilute that pool too heavily. Finding out that there are 2 eliminators voting amidst 12 players isn’t terribly useful. A smaller pool is much more helpful, although possibly not so helpful as reactions to the possibility of being in that pool.
  12. What are we expecting to change that would prevent a tie at rollover? Dannex had a role that gave them the net alignment of all voters involved in a tie, which I now have this cycle.
  13. Are we expecting Steel to have the lynchbait role today? Missed too much of the conversation to know whether it’s confirmed or not.
  14. I’d second the request for any information on how much vote manipulation is going on at present. I’m moderately sure that Dannex was a villager, fyi. Will think through how much is worth revealing this evening. As a fair warning, my activity is and will remain low until the weekend. I’m able to look at the thread on my commute back and forth, and occasionally between meetings, but work has become manic, and I expect today to be another very long day.
  15. You promised me a manageable game, Kas. >> More seriously, this is a genuine problem, and I think we should be mindful of the value of our respective contributions, against the time commitment to read them. I know for my part, at least, that keeping abreast of the thread in general with this volume of posts is a challenge, and I’m giving this game at least 90 minutes a day. There’s a very real risk (and a converse strategy from the eliminators) that the collective individual jokes or snap replies overwhelm the thread with content personally beneficial, but that in net impact is negative. I can’t be the only one struggling to form discrete reads and views, simply because processing 5 pages of new posts in the same (constrained) time I need to make a post is just impossible. There’s a lot of valuable solving data that’s been posted, in role claims, targets, results, but this is getting buried in back-and-forths, and deliberate trolling. Forgive me if I’m being harsh, but all trolling for trolling’s sake does is heighten the barrier for meaningful engagement for everyone else, making the game less enjoyable and approachable, to gain some fleeting personal self-satisfaction.
  16. Confused, to be blunt. I am trying to play this game before and after work, giving me about 90 minutes a day of consistent time to commit. The volume of noise in this thread is significant, and isn’t helped by deliberate trolling for the sake of it, or by short back and forth posting on trivialities, as it sometimes seems. I am trying to keep up, and hope to carve out some time later this week, if I can finish work at a vaguely reasonable time, to go through the thread and tabulate role claims and claimed actions. With the dead able to speak, and confirm their actions, I’d guess that this is a largely solvable puzzle.
  17. Not quite. I was noting that current speculation is that a kill could come from being lurched, with the lurcher trolled, but suggesting I don’t think it likely that Tani was lurched in any case. I wasn’t really making a comment either way on elim team composition. On reflection, a second kill requiring two members’ actions isn’t totally implausible, particularly given the village retain analysis from their targets, but it wasn’t the suggestion I had made. I did wonder whether Matrim knew he was being trolled, and used the same effect to be a one-off coinshot, as part of my question.
  18. Because if parity matters, all killing a village inactive does is bring the eliminators closer to parity. There is no world in which a living but largely inactive village Tani is less useful than a dead Tani. This obviously doesn’t hold if Tani is an inactive eliminator, but a coinshot wouldn’t have been able to make a sensible alignment determination from Tani’s single post.
  19. Question: Why did Tani die? As far as I can tell, they made one post last cycle, asking where their PM from Archer was. I can’t see them being the target of a village vig kill, and I can’t see them having been lurched (with the lurch trolled), so strongly suspect they were the target of a benevolent elim team. Why was Devotary then targeted, and by whom? Again, I’d be surprised to see her a vig kill target, so am more inclined to wonder whether we had lurching go wrong (whether deliberately or otherwise. Am I right in thinking that Matrim knew he was being targeted by Aman?
  20. If it’s a widespread mechanic, I think the elim team might have been able to guess that something was up based on their team size. I was predicting a smaller elim size based on blackout information, but if villagers persist after death to share role information and analysis in thread, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a more standard team.
  21. Forgive me if this has been disproven by a statement from Kas earlier in the thread, but do we know with any certainty that what’s happened to Striker would happen to any other player removed? If the first part of his role is (claimed to be) lynch bait, surviving the lynch in some form feels thematically consistent.
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