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  1. So I just finished rereading the three SA books and I've noticed a few things that seem...odd. Since people here like odd things, I thought I'd share. They might just be typos or other continuity errors. They might be me misunderstanding a scene. They might be non-obvious hints about how the magic or the society functions. Ranked in the admittedly quite subjective order of most likely to be an error to most likely to hint at some future revelation, I offer the following observations: 1) In WoR, the chasmfiend's eyes don't burn. Kaladin kills the chasmfiend with a Shardblade to the head as it's swallowing him. The creature dies so fast it doesn't even clamp its jaws shut in its death throes, which means it has to be dying from instant, Shardblade-induced death and not natural damage. But its eyes don't burn. I thought maybe that chasmfiend eyes don't burn, but nope -- the chasmfiend's eyes in WoK burn as expected. Then I thought maybe for some reason a Shardblade through the brain wouldn't cause eyes to burn, but again no -- in one of Dalinar's flashbacks, he kills Highprince Kalanor with a Shardblade "straight through the face", and Kalanor's eyes also burn. This seems very much like an error to me. 2) Spanreed ruby replacement. In OB, When Dalinar and co. don't hear from Kaladin as expected after he jaunts off to Hearthstone, Dalinar and Navani get worried, but not too much because "he'd likely run out of infused rubies." This implies that one can replace one ruby with another in a spanreed. However, this seems to directly contradict the Ars Arcanum, which claims that the process of creating a spanreed "requires splitting the original ruby. The two halves will then create parallel reactions across a distance." If this is correct, then one should not be able to simply swap one ruby in a spanreed out for a different one. Also, as a Radiant, Kaladin should be able to infuse any gem with Stormlight assuming he has any left at all, so claiming that he'd "run out of infused rubies" should be akin to assuming that he'd run out of Stormlight entirely, which is an even more worrisome situation. Therefore Dalinar's shrugging off not hearing from Kaladin because he might have run out of infused rubies seems like an error. That, or I'm really confused about how fabrials/spanreeds work. 3) Rlain doesn't see Lopen's spren. I might be off a little bit on this one, but there's a scene in the chapter "Alone Together" where Rock is helping everyone come to grips with the fact that things are changing faster than they like. Everyone, that is, "except Lopen, who had snuck away from the group and for some reason was lifting up rocks on the other side of the plateau and looking underneath them." Now I took this -- and stiil take it -- as a hint/foreshadowing that Lopen is interacting with a spren the others can't see, satisfying her curiosity in the same way that Kaladin did with Syl before their bond got far along. And this would work great, except for one thing: that this scene is told from Rlain's point of view, and if there's one member in all of Bridge Four who a spren shouldn't be invisible to, it's Rlain. If my interpretation of Lopen's motives are correct -- and if anyone can come up with a better idea, let me know -- then I don't see how Rlain could reasonably be unaware both that Lopen has attracted a spren and that he's interacting with one. Something seems a bit off here. 4) Dalinar speaks of an "old general's trick" that can't be all that old. When Dalinar goes to visit Azir, he refers to using a spanreed for communication by "[flipping] the reed on and off to send signals, an old general's trick for when you lacked a scribe." However spanreeds are only a couple decades old, as near as I can tell. Evi uses one to ask Dalinar what to name Renarin when he's born (eighteen and a half years ago), but I think that's the earliest mention. This isn't necessarily an error, since I don't think there's a hard date on spanreed invention and "old" can be relative, but it's still a weird turn of phrase. Can spanreeds and fabrial science be older than they appear? If so, why did it take them so long to go from spanreeds to other modern fabrials? 5) Renarin sends Stormlight into a wall with physical effects. When they discover the gemstone archive in Urithiru, Renarin causes all the drawers to slide open by "sending a surge of Stormlight through [the wall] that extended from his palms like twin ripples on the surface of a pond." Knowing that Truthwatchers shared a surge with Edgedancers, on my first reading I figured he was using Abrasion to make all the drawers spring free, but nope -- Truthwatchers have Illumination and Progression. The thing is, neither Illumination nor Regrowth seem like they should have much of an effect on a stone wall. Also note that I don't think we've ever seen Stormlight forced into a non-gem object without invoking one of the Radiant's Surges. This leaves several possibilities: 1) it's a mistake; 2) Renarin's and/or Truthwatchers' Surges are weird and can somehow interact with a stone wall; 3) Stormlight can do stuff to objects independent of the Surges. I don't know which of these is correct, or if there's some other explanation, but it seems worth pointing out.
  2. @LerasiumMistborn: I agree with you on some things -- I think that more likely than not Dalinar is going to get killed off, probably at the end of book 5, or perhaps as soon as the end of book 4. But some of what you fear seems frankly silly -- I assure you there's practically a 0% chance that Dalinar gets murdered in his sleep or gets some pointless Game of Thrones style treatment. Because you're right -- Sanderson is predicable, at least to an extent. And that's a good thing, for those of us who like that style of writing. Rather than pick apart individual fears, let me ask you a question. Are you dead set on Dalinar ascending to Honor/Unity? Is that the only way that you will be satisfied with his arc ending? If you're totally on the Unity-or-bust train, then yeah I think that you'll end up disappointed. But let me use myself as an example. Kaladin is my favorite character. I want him to have a meaningful storyline, but I'll be fine regardless of whether that means he ascends to Honor or dies a glorious death or becomes king of Alethkar or retires to some quiet corner of Roshar to find happiness. Or something else entirely. Be open to the journey, not focused on the destination. If I were to set my heart on one particular outcome of Kaladin's storyline, then yes, there's about an 80% chance that I'll be disappointed. But if I just want a meaningful ending, there's almost a 100% chance that I'll get one. OT: I'm actually not sure that this distinction between Child of Tanavast and Child of Honor is a meaningful one. At most, I expect that if the Stormfather is making a distinction, it's a minor one. Like how the humans call him the Stormfather while the Parshendi call him the Rider of Storms. The distinction is probably not hugely story-relevant.
  3. Nalan was definitely there, unless there is a second person with identical facial description.
  4. I'll agree. Kaladin getting strung up in the Highstorm is probably one of my top five scenes/sequences in SA thus far. Particularly the part where Syl tries to part the winds for him. It's very touching. And Rock rushing out immediately afterwards while Teft can't bring himself to look. Great characterization all around.
  5. So I think we can mostly all agree that if anyone's going to "pass" Kaladin in Oath progression, it's going to be Teft and not Lopen (the comic relief, who wouldn't fit well into such a serious role) or some other bridgeman without proper foreshadowing -- honestly I felt that Teft swearing his third Ideal when I had no idea he was even on his second to be rather jarring and something I'd hope not to see happen again. It's an interesting theory, but I don't see it happening for two reasons: 1) The armor-granting Oath has been super-hyped.by this point. People were anticipating it as far back as WoR and the teasing during OB is real. For narrative reasons, it almost has to be a big, awesome, plot-significant moment, and I just don't think Teft or any bridgeman other than maybe Rock has been built to nearly the required level. If one of them were suddenly promoted to one of the "main" characters for book 4, it would be possible; but such a promotion doesn't seem likely. 2) Kaladin's development. His inability to say the fourth Oath was a major plot point in OB. You can't just...brush aside his struggle by having another Windrunner beat him to it. Well, given enough setup of course you could, but so far that setup appears to be lacking. We suspect the next Ideal is hard for Windrunners in general and not just Kaladin in particular, so having someone else breeze by would be weird. The only way I could really see another Windrunner beating Kaladin to the next Ideal without major setup next book is if Kaladin explicitly rejects the Fourth Ideal -- if he decides that the Ideal is just not compatible with his own value system and that he will not swear it, resigning himself to be a third-Ideal Radiant henceforth. Then of course others would pass him, and it might be an interesting story to see Kaladin struggle to lead and/or protect those who have passed him by. But I'd be rather surprised to see the story take this direction.
  6. To be honest, I wouldn't watch either unless -- maybe -- if it got really good reviews, since I just don't see the meat of the story adapting well to a visual medium. But I'm pretty certain that an animated series would turn out better than a live-action series of similar budget level, since one can animate spren and Stormlight and Everstorms and similar much better than any CGI/special effects could manage. Though stuff like Sadeas' warcamp and the Shattered Plains would be probably be better in live action.
  7. My old "busted" theory was that there were going to be ten Radiant Oath progression levels, not just five (or that there were ten Oaths total, and each Order chose a subset, so that, e.g., Windrunners, Edgedancers, and Stonewards would all at some point in their progression swear to protect those who couldn't protect themselves). My idea was based around the fact that 10 was the "magic" number (ten Orders, ten Surges, ten gemstones, etc.), and I still stand by the fact that it seems really weird for there to be only five Oaths. Ten Oaths also makes a lot of narrative sense, as so far we've been burning up one Oath progression per book. Since Oath speculation accounts for probably about half of all posts on this forum, it's pretty clearly one of the main draws of SA. I'm not at all convinced that Brandon will be able to keep the excitement up for the back five without more Oath progression to be had. Will there be Voidish Oaths, maybe? A bit hard to imagine how that might work, but I suppose it's one possibility. The Stormlight Archive wouldn't be nearly as attractive without all the moral conflicts/issues brought on by the Oaths, though.
  8. There's plenty of reasons the Fused might lie, if the process truly is reversible. Here's just a few: 1) Makes the Fused seem special. Someone in warform isn't fundamentally better than someone in mateform, just different. If the Fused are just another type of spren, then why should they be the ones in charge, rather than something like the Council of Five? 2) Less resistance from their hosts. You're assuming that the Fused was lying primarily to Venli. Isn't it also possible that he was lying primarily to Davram (or whatever his name was) and the other nearby hosts? 'Why bother to resist, you can't change anything anyway' is similar enough to Odium's argument to Moash and Dalinar that I wouldn't be surprised to see it here, too. 3) Hurting Venli. Telling her that her mate is irrevocably dead is a rather Odious thing to do. It wouldn't surprise me a bit to learn that a being so infused with Odium's Investure would prioritize causing pain over telling the truth.
  9. To be fair, we have only the Fused's testimony for this. And he had reason to lie.
  10. Well, there's a few things. Nothing like hard evidence, of course, and nothing that couldn't be explained in several other ways. But consider that: 1) She's an unmarried princess in a family and a culture that would strongly approve of marriage alliances. She must have a sincere and abiding objection to marriage to remain unwed for so long. (We know she's not just refusing to spite her family; she's been shown to care for her family a lot.) Despite that, she doesn't seem to have any inherent objection to the institution of marriage -- she helped arrange Shallan's and Adolin's marriage after all -- but she nevertheless sees it as a rather undesirable thing. 2) She has not evinced any interest in men romantically. Of course she could be homosexual or asexual or just not have received enough screen time, though I rather think we'd have seen hints by now if she had taken a lover any time in the past decade or so. Such aloofness is not completely indicative of an unpleasant sexual experience, but the latter would certainly explain the former. 3) She went completely overboard with those men in the alleyway. Something there struck an emotional nerve. It probably wasn't the theft -- she didn't completely fly off the handle when Shallan stole her Soulcaster -- and given how blase she is about murder, it probably wasn't the thought of murder, either. Shallan's not Jasnah, but the three things that Shallan's worried about in that scene are robbery, rape, and murder. Rule out the first and the last and the second one seems a reasonable cause. Again, nothing in the above is hard evidence, but all of the above would fit with a traumatic sexual background. As for Kadash, I'm not sure. I don't think his Devotary has been mentioned, but I tend to overlook details like that on minor characters. As far as being able to handle more dead bodies in backstories, I'll probably be recovered by the back five, at least if Eshonai and Szeth don't have any tragically dead friends or family in their flashbacks, which I'm tentatively hopeful about. Hints suggest that Lift is going to have a dead mother, though; and of course Renarin has a dead mother, and Ash and Taln almost certainly have a great many dead bodies between them (about four thousand years' worth). So although I do rather like your idea, I'm just a little cautious about any more flashback scenes that revolve around dead friends and family.
  11. I'll give you that his public image wasn't real. No question about that. If he'd actually been the honorable man he pretended to be, he wouldn't have murdered the men who saved his life. But...you say that his public image was blown to shreds after WoR, and that just didn't happen. The only bad thing is that Dalinar asked him to resign his post as head Radiant, and chances are most Alethi thought it was a pretty silly position anyway. There is no in-book evidence, that I'm aware of, to suggest that Amaram's public approval was in any way harmed by the events of WoR. It certainly wasn't bad enough to prevent him being named Highprince Sadeas. Sorry, but this is just wrong. Dalinar's armies were known to pillage -- that's how he was able to convince that archer to join his side, by telling him Dalinar's men wouldn't pillage his town if he joined Dalinar's side. That's not the kind of threat that has any teeth if your enemy is known for mercy. True, Dalinar didn't like doing so, and perfered not to when avoidable, but that's a far cry from having an upstanding reputation. After the Rift, where Dalinar literally burned innocent civilians to death, even his own men were disgusted with him. That's what forced one of his men to become an ardent. Dalinar did not have a good reputation. There is no way that Amaram modeled his perfect lighteyes persona after Dalinar of all people. But that's my point. I totally understand why Odium wouldn't want Amaram to switch sides any earlier because of all those benefits you mention. The part that isn't obvious to me is why Odium would want Amaram to switch sides even at the battle of Thaylen City. If Amaram already belongs to Odium, why not give the Yelig-Nar stone to someone Odium could afford to lose rather than sacrifice his valuable and highly-placed mole? Seems like pretty poor strategy to me. As to Amaram being disappointed by Taln...I'm not saying it's not a kinda-sorta-plausible explanation, but it does seem something of a stretch. And that's the reason why an Amaram viewpoint would have been so vital. If we could've seen his disillusionment, then his treachery wouldn't have come completely out of left field. Instead all we can do is string together tenuous chains of maybe. Maybe Amaram became disillusioned with Taln. Maybe Odium contacted him during the Everstorm. Maybe Amaram fell prey to Odium's blandishments. Maybe he was biding his time until the Thaylen City battle. Maybe Odium had some reason to call him out. Maybe, maybe, maybe. It all hangs together like a tenuous spiderweb: possible, certainly, but seemingly ever more improbable. The cool thing is that both of these opinions can be correct. I agree that Amaram was someone who wanted, for the most part, to do the right thing. He may or may not have wanted to do the right thing for the right reasons (he's pretty selfish and wants other people to think well of him), but he did generally want to do the right thing. In fact, I see a sort-of parallel between Amaram's betrayal of Kaladin's squad and Kaladin's betrayal of Elhokar. Granted Amaram's actions are the worse of the two, but in both cases there's a sort of "for the greater good" argument that's tainted more than a little by personal motivations. Not to nitpick (okay, kind of to nitpick), but what do you think we could possibly learn about Amaram from one of Jasnah's flashbacks that would possibly have any bearing upon his present-day decisions? I mean, even if we learn that he's a self-righteous prig who kicks his axehounds -- not improbable, and arguably somewhat likely, since we know that Jasnah dislikes him for some reason -- how does that possibly have any bearing on his current decisions? Unless Jasnah's flashback sequence includes an OB-contemporaneous scene with her and Amaram, which now that I think about it might be kind of cool even if both unlikely and several books too late, I don't see how we're going to learn anything more about Amaram. I mean, we'll probably learn that he's a delusional, misguided cremling...but it's not like we don't know that already.
  12. Gotta admit I don't watch much TV, so I can't speak to its prevalence there, but I can't think of very many books that have included rape as a major topic, or a minor topic, or really at all. The few times I have seen it done, I haven't been very impressed with how it was handled. Strangely enough, my poor experiences with rape in fiction are a major part of why I actually wouldn't mind seeing rape as a part of Jasnah's backstory. It would fit, character-wise, with what we already know, so it's not like it'd be something just shoehorned in for a cheap thrill. So far in the Stormlight Archive Brandon's already done a great job with atheism, a pretty good job with depression, and a reasonably okay job with autism, and I rather suspect that he could do a reasonably good job with rape. Like I said, I really can't think of many (any?) fiction works that have handled the topic in a proper fashion, but I actually think that SA could. I wouldn't blame Brandon for not risking it if he didn't think it could be done well, and I'd rather not see it done at all than be done poorly, but strangely enough I would like to see it done if it could be done well. Literature in general could use a sincere treatment of the topic. Then again I like this idea a fair bit, too. What happened to the ardent who gave Jasnah the book? Part of me thinks it could be the soldier-turned-ardent from Dalinar's army, but this could also be a fine possibility. The only part I don't like about the idea at present is that it would be yet another tragic backstory where people got killed, and after Kaladin (Tien, his squad), Shallan (her father, her mother), and Dalinar (Evi, all the Rifters), I'm pretty much tired of tragic backstory deaths. If Eshonai's and Szeth's backstories don't involve tragic deaths, though, then maybe I'll be ready for another one by the time Jasnah's rolls around. But right now it seems too much.
  13. This isn't a bad idea. If Amaram's bargain with Odium predated his ascention to Highprince, at a time when Amaram's opportunities looked less favorable, then it might have made sense for him to defect. The only real issues are, first, that Amaram still seems quite pleased with himself at the end of WoR even though he already knows that Taln is completely broken. So finding out that the Heralds are mad can't really be a major influence of his decision even if he decides to take Odium's word for it, which is questionable in itself. The other issue is that if Amaram did switch sides earlier, then Odium is giving up a highly placed agent for no real purpose at the battle of Thaylen City. Odium doesn't even want Amaram as his champion. There's not much reason for Odium to break Amaram's cover. Either way, though, I think that Amaram definitely should have had a viewpoint during OB. It would have added a lot. There's a lot in this post I take some issue with. First, an opinion: I've never seen Amaram as the jealous type. I've certainly never seen anything that would suggest that he's jealous of Kaladin of all people. He's greedy, yes. Insecure, arguably. Narcissistic, most definitely (or at least, he cultivates his immaculate image relentlessly; but then again, so does Jasnah). Second, It's also worth noting that Amaram didn't set himself up as commander of the KR despite not having powers. Dalinar set him up as commander of the KR at a time when nobody had powers, as far as they knew. It's not even entirely clear that Amaram believed at that time that the old Radiants truly had magic powers, though given his membership in the Sons of Honor he probably did. Certainly neither had any knowledge of the true methods or requirements for becoming Radiant. Third, Amaram does not model his "honest general" persona after Dalinar. Amaram was doing the upstanding general thing way before Dalinar, probably when Dalinar was still a drunken wreck of a man after the Rift and before Cultivation. It's even altogether possible that Amaram actually was trying to be an upstanding brightlord. He fails first with Kaladin and then with Dalinar when his greed gets the better of him, but other than that he's been pretty much the ideal Alethi lighteyes. I think that's part of why his sudden betrayal comes so far out of left field. His previous failings were both due to greed, but his turncoat moment involves him willingly giving up all the wealth/position/power/respect that he's amassed, none of which is negligible. I dunno, it all seems pretty out of character. I might change my mind when I reach the battle of Thaylen City, but so far Amaram's always been cautious. The public declaration of treachery goes against everything he's built over the past decade or so, and what does he get out of it? Basically nothing. I might have been able to see it had Amaram been shown to be hungry for Radiant powers and somehow convinced that Odium was his only reasonable path to get there, but neither of those things seem particularly plausible.
  14. So I'm about halfway through a reread of Oathbringer, but I've got to say that so far I see little to no evidence to suggest that Amaram has any intention or motive to switch sides. Things are looking nothing but up for Amaram. He's been named Brightlord Sadeas and given control of arguably the most powerful and influential princedom in Alethkar after Dalinar's crushing defeat at the Tower. Heck, if anything bad happens to Elhokar, who has just gone off on an idiotic rescue mission to Alethkar and hasn't been heard from since, Amaram is probably the best positioned to become the next king. Elhokar is missing, his son is missing, and so is Adolin. The only person reasonably standing between Amaram and the throne at this point is Dalinar, who is having some serious issues with the church, has a severely weakened princedom, and is making some rather unpopular decisions. Right now, it looks like all Amaram needs to do to become king of Alethkar is to wait. If he's feeling especially bold, maybe try sticking a knife in Dalinar's ribs during the next Weeping. At present, I can't think of a single good reason for him to throw that all away in joining Odium.
  15. I'll point out that it might be premature to expect Venli to swear any Oaths. She doesn't have the usual Radiant bond with Timbre. We haven't seen her use any sort of Surgebindings. It's hard to imagine how she could summon her Shardblade if Timbre is hanging out in her gemheart. Basically, while I wouldn't be surprised if she ended up following the usual Radiant Oath progression, I also wouldn't be surprised if she didn't.