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  1. I feel like I need to lead with the fact that I enjoyed RoW a lot, but it is probably my least favorite of the four. It felt less eventful to me. Oathbringer probably is my favorite of the bunch, as I really enjoyed pretty much all the arcs, where as most the books at least some of them kind of fell flat for me. Shallan's arcs in the first two books were okay, but I really enjoyed her investigating Urithiru. The flashback segments are also usually not my favorite, as for most of them its kind of clear where things are going. We knew Kaladin hates lighteyes and thinks they always break their promises. Pretty obvious a lighteyes is going to betray him and his brother is going to die. We knew Shallan's family was messed up and that she killed her father. With Dalinar his memory was literally missing. There definitely were some correct predictions on the forums, but it wasn't 100% certain how it would play out from the start. On a side note, I'm looking forward to Szeth flashbacks, I feel like there is a lot we don't know about him and the Shin in general. The Kholinar arc was great. The whole thing had a tense creepy kind of vibe that I really enjoyed. The first real look into Shadesmar was was interesting for how weird everything was. The final battle for Oathbringer was also fantastic. So many of the characters got big moments.
  2. I've had issues with depression in the past, and while its not a constant or even regular thing for me, I have had episodes that have lasted for weeks/months. I do really appreciate the realism that some of the chapters display. The two that really stand out to me are the bit with Adolin taking him out in RoW that has already been mentioned (definitely one of my favorite chapters), and the sequence where Kaladin is in jail in WoR. The bit that really stands out to me from the jail sequence is when Kaladin is thinking that all his friends are probably relieved not to have him around. Its such a ridiculous irrational thing to think, as its been shown that bridge four practically worships him, but that's how depression can be a lot of the time. I've definitely been bothered by similar thoughts that I know are entirely untrue on a rational level, but I'm unable to shake the feeling on an emotional level. I think this might also be why readers can get frustrated with Kaladin, he definitely is being irrational and overly negative, but that is pretty true to life for depression in my experience. I also can appreciate the realistic depiction just because I know the first time I had a serious episode of depression I felt like I must be going crazy or something, and reading about other people with similar issues helped me to make sense of it, and in turned helped with coping with it. I've found its easier to deal with when I have been able to recognize that I'm depressed. I can tell myself not to trust the way I'm currently feeling because I know the negativity will pass. Knowing that other people have the same sorts of irrational thought processes makes it easier to reject the negative thoughts as being caused by depression.
  3. Ah good to know. Thanks for digging up that WoB.
  4. Ya that occurred to me after I wrote that. It doesn't really hold up that each order has a unique primary surge, but I still wonder if there is a defined progression to which they master the surges. It does seem like windrunners gain adhesion before gravitation, and skybreakers get gravitation before division. Maybe its just a simple as them starting with the less dangerous surge.
  5. It was kind of my take that each order has a primary and secondary surge, and that the suppression was enough to lock out their secondary surge, but not the primary one.
  6. So I think a lot of us having been considering that the contest will be the climax of book five, but I'm beginning to wonder if that will actually be the case. Given that there are only 10 days until the contest, and there is a lot left to tie up that would take longer than that, I think it may be a real possibility that the contest takes place in the first or second act of the book, and the rest of the book deals with the fallout.
  7. Szeth isn't the most stable individual. If there was anyone likely to not notice, or at least not attach significance to it, it would probably be him.
  8. knife/knives of ____________ sounds like a real title to me. Keeper of Woe was another good one that sound pretty plausible to me. Its a little close to Bearer of Agonies though, which is already a title that gets used in the books. On a side note, Bearer of Agonies would make a sweet book title in the back 5.
  9. Ya, I've dealt with some episodes of depression, and the descriptions in this chapter were pretty spot on.
  10. Ya I very much was getting that vibe as well. I don't know about it being a Cryptic specifically, but a spren seems very likely to me. I'm leaning toward the sibling, though I have no idea how the gen would have gotten there.
  11. You don't remember the interlude with the spaceship? In all seriousness though, I have no idea what that cover is trying to represent.
  12. Ah, I think somehow I'd missed the bit that you quoted. I was remembering his quotes from the first book.
  13. I'm not sure we could say that Veil is the primary personality from one chapter alone. She is out spying on people in the chapter, it makes sense for her to be Veil at that point.
  14. I think this is probably a big part of it. I think some of it is also that his views are taken to a point of being kind of irrational. He doesn't take the stance that violence should be a last resort, he takes the stance that it never can solve anything. His repeated insistence that you can't save anyone by killing someone else flies in the face of reason, and he refuses to accept that. It would perhaps be easier to accept his position if he took some kind of moral stance that it was wrong to harm someone even in the name of saving someone, but that isn't what he argues with Kaladin. He cannot come to terms with the fact that people can be protected through violence.
  15. Maybe, but a year has passed since the last book, and Kaladin seems to have been in contact with his parents at least a few times. I would think he would have tried to explain the stakes to them, based on what Dalinar has seen. Now, I could see it being entirely in character for Lirin to refuse to accept that as true, but its still pretty stubborn of him to refuse to consider the possibility that people are fighting for a good reason.
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