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  1. I'm not aware of one that confirms it is someone else. But considering the note from the gatherer on this particular rattle, I'm not convinced that speach would be a prerequisite. As to the idea that this rattle is literal... Honestly, I hope not. It would rely on the position of Odium’s champion being something that does not require acceptance, because an infant is incapable of understanding and agreeing to what's happening. If that is the case, then I'd want to know why Dalinar isn't still Odium’s champion, because if agreement doesn't matter then his rejection should not have ended the position.
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    I think Jasnah's ability to soulcast at range is purely of function of access to shadesmar. Notice that when she soulcast the man she touched to quartz, his clothing changed with him. When she soulcast the two to smoke at range, their clothing was uneffected. And then she comes out of the last trance like state. I think what occurred that she projected her mind into shadesmar and soulcast them from there directly. Without touching the beads that represent their clothing, the clothing was not changed. As such, I don't think other radiants have access to the same method.
  3. @marianmi "Returning" to shadesmar would only restore the mind of an Unbounded spren precisely because of the Spiritual nature of things. For a human in Shadesmar Physically, their body may not be present in the Physical Realm, but their Physical aspect still exists. That's why they still need food, water, and sleep. That's why they can cross back to the Physical through a perpendicularity. For a spren that is bonded, or has been unnaturally altered to have a Physical aspect they can't handle, being in the Cognitive does not change the state they are in. Because again, this distribution is written into their Spiritual Aspect. And they can be in both realms simultaneously and to different degrees. Windspren are not corporeal, but they are rarely seen in the Cognitive. Spren are drawn to emotions and begin to partially show themselves in the Physical even though we see that they are mainly in the Cognitive and what is seen in the Physical is only a part of them. And this isn't limited to spren. Wyndle himself says that lift can touch him because She must be partly in the Cognitive. Why would that make a difference if Wyndle were completely in the Physical?
  4. @marianmi I think it is exactly the same thing. Syl is stupid when she crosses over because she's in the Physical, with no bond, and her mind returns as the bond deepens... But she is not able to become truly physical. That doesn't happen until the third oath, when she becomes a blade. Jasnah says as much about Ivory. If they're stupid just from being in the Physical without a corporeal form, being in the Physical as an actual corporeal blade ramps that up in the extreme. And this is a Spiritual change. The distribution of a being between the realms is going to be something written into the Spiritual of a being. The fact that they are supposed to have a Physical aspect because of the way they were severed with the bond, when they were never built to support one naturally is the basis of the problem.
  5. @TheFoxQR I don't think the magic system would have changed immediately. I think it's something that would warp over time. Similar to a godmetal under a new Vessel.
  6. For one's that are continually present in the Physical? Not that I'm aware of.
  7. Exactly. And I doubt he is. Which is what makes any insistence that shades are more intelligent than they appear speculation. Considering that they are very much present in and act on the Physical realm, and the way we've seen that play out with spren, I find it hard to credit that they are somehow more present and intelligent on the Cognitive side.
  8. I'm strongly of the opinion that magic on Ashyn prior to the Human exodus was very different than the disease magic we know of, per this WoB (question and answer No. 2) The Purelake fish, like most Rosharan fauna, just have a spren bond.
  9. Well, I agree that settled does not mean discovered, I agree with Oltux here. The idea that the Shades are what Nazh was talking about is an assumption. He says specifically, Cognitive Shadows, not shades. It's the same reason that I don't agree when people insist that the Ire worrying about the "Forces of Threnody" is the Shades, when they've shown us no sign of an intelligence capable of planning or wishing to "join the main stage."
  10. Slight nitpick, but I don't think metal and stone automatically become type IV's. That would imply that, prior to Nightblood, there was no awakening of stone or metal.
  11. In BoM we are shown that the Southern Scadrians have a problem that makes the brass medallions a necessity for their survival. They are shown to freeze to death in what appears to be relatively mild weather in the memory that Wax views at the end of the book. I've long suspected the reason for this, but through a recent discord discussion with @Extesian and @Spoolofwhool I think we've nailed down the actual mechanism. The Southerners were set aside by Rashek when he changed scadrial to preserve the original genetics of Scadrians in case his experiments in the north with the Nobles and Skaa went horribly wrong. We have a WoB, though, that he found a way to allow them to survive the heat created by moving the planet. Without the Ashmounts, or the altered genetics required from all of his cascading problems in the north. I believe that the method he found was a purely Spiritual alteration. I believe that Rashek altered the Spiritual aspect of the Southerners in a way that mimics storing in brass via Feruchemy. Storing would allow a person to survive extreme temperatures by making themselves colder. So I think that the problem that they suffer from, and why they specifically need Brass Feruchemy to compensate, is that there Spiritual Aspects have been altered in a way that causes the body heat that would normally be produced to essentially "store" continually, dumping body heat into the Spiritual as Investiture to make them function at a far colder level than is natural. Which, while the world was uninhabitably hot was a boon to their survival, but now leaves them perpetually on the verge of hypothermia. Genetic information preserved, still able to survive in temperatures that should have quickly lead to heat stroke and death... And a major problem with no physical source once the planet was returned to its proper orbit. It still doesn't answer why Sazed didn't fix them for me, but it is a mechanism that seems to make sense.
  12. The WoB about the Oathpact being tangentially related is most likely this one. Which... Does not say what was implied. But all of the WoBs together, and what the Stormfather says make me believe that the Oathpact only "binds" Odium in that it traps the Fused. An indirect effect that limits his chosen agents, whereas Odium himself is directly bound in a similar manner by the powers of Honor and Cultivation.
  13. Brandon is great. I'm obsessed with the Cosmere. I pretty much live here and on discord. That said, the way that we fans talk about him? To a casual fan or someone unfamiliar with his work yes he's absolutely overhyped. There's no faster way to turn someone off to an entertainer, regardless of the medium than to set their expectations too high. Half of what makes the Cosmere so great is the story behind the story for a lot of us, and unless someone gets hooked they aren't ever going to dig into that. So really, Brandon is absolutely overhyped. And it's completely our fault.
  14. I fail to see how that would not qualify as a purpose.
  15. I absolutely think Adonalsium was a being, and fallible, and I also think it is very very relevant to your thread. First, we know that it was a being because "he" was killed and that is what caused the Shattering. As a fallible being, Roshar's "purpose" could be grand, it could be integral to the function of the Cosmere... Or it could be simple self indulgence and/or entertainment. At this point, I don't think we have nearly enough information and Roshar, Adonalsium, or the underlying mechanics of the Cosmere as a whole to begin trying to understand Roshar's purpose let alone explain it.
  16. Considering what Adonalsium was... I don't see a viable alternative. Whether Adonalsium was alien enough that the concept of death did not mean what it does to us, actually foresaw some path that aligned with its goals, was so aloof and uncaring that it's own well being wasn't a consideration, or some other mindset... Adonalsium should have been able to simply alter reality how it chose and ended any threat to it. It was the power of all of the Shards combined.
  17. @Pathfinder White sand stuff
  18. I honestly don't think it will be this formulaic. For every Surgebinder to attract a spren for the same reason and reach for the exact same end goal would mean that you would be putting every member of an order on a path to experience the same journey. I think that it will be far more individual than that.
  19. I didn’t list it in my explanation, because I don't think that it did happen at that time, but I still think that it was relevant as an example of the destruction of which they were capable.
  20. I don't think the Nahel bond is unique. Specialized maybe, but we've been told Seons work on very very similar principles. So much so that if you could find something like the oaths to pull them more heavily into the book physical they'd be able to become blades. I think on the whole, a bond to a splinter is a bond to the splinter. What that splinter is composed of is more important than the bond itself.
  21. You're absolutely right @Ammanas. The recreance, as presented, doesn't add up. Which is why I think it's more complicated than that. They weren't the first to discover their history. It's made clear in the book that it had happened before and Honor then worked to ensure that they held fast and were not responsible for the actions of their predecessors. This time though, Honor was Dying and raved about their previously destroyed world and that they would inevitably do the same to Roshar... After which they lobotomized what appeared to be an entire species. I think it was a combination of many factors in rapid succession, which lead to a breaking point. I personally also think that this was an action that their spren pushed for. At minimum the spren were complicit, because spren have the ability to break the bond and there is absolutely no way a coordinated effort of this magnitude could have been kept secret from them. So in my head, you find out that your people have destroyed one world, are told by your God that you are going to do the same to the one you call home. Then you lobotomize an entire species and your best friend in the world argues that these powers need to be stopped. I'd have a tough time not feeling like I was a part of a massive problem.
  22. Which is in itself a reason to intercede in Scadrial. Or Sel. Or Roshar. Multiple shards interacting, whether in Harmony or opposition.
  23. I mean that when Taln returns, a physical body is literally created for him. The Oathpact is doing what it was intended to do.
  24. The Oathpact is still in effect and is why it contained the Fused for a couple millenia beyond Honors death. The immediate return of the Fused without needing to return to Braize is a function of the Everstorm. It should function even if a Herald were to die and go to Braize, but as there are none there for the time being that lady bit is speculation. Honor's death did not end the Oathpact. The fact that the Oathpact provided a body for Taln is further evidence of that beyond his holding the Fused back.
  25. I got about... 6 hours left til then. But thank you very much.