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  1. Because nothing says Romance quite like Necromancy! That said, This thread caused a lot of smiles last year, so I am glad to see it back.
  2. True. Vin and Wax have killed as well. I think the difference is why. Kelsier went out into the night looking for people to kill. He broke into Noble houses with the goal of murder. Most of the time, Vin or Wax killed those attacking them, or those who would harm the people they were protecting. I think the Intent here is what matters, as it is the Cosmere. Kel did kill to protect. But he tried to kill that soldier that questioned him. He went out looking to murder people based on their birth or who they work for. In most stories, told from any perspective other than his crew's, he would be the villain. But he would definitely get along well with the punisher or huntress.
  3. This sounds like a painful prospect. Like hugging a porcupine, or a particularly surly hedgehog. In all seriousness, Harmony has trouble directly interfering due to the competing nature of his intents, and his own desire to let people learn on their own. I don't think he wanted Kel to do whatever it was that led to his current incarnation, based on what was said in Secret History, but Kel is also kinda permanently around - at least in the sense that he was trapped in the cognitive. Mix that with Kel's experimentation, the fact that Marsh has acted as Harmony's agent, and the fact that Brandon has stated that Kel would be a villain in most other series has me aligning with the view that he will be an era villain for sure. Especially given how he dislikes Hoid, who is confirmed as the Era 4 protagonist. So let's face it. Kel was an anti-hero at best. He got the role of hero because he was fighting something much worse than himself, but his methods were questionable at best, and he allowed his prejudice, hatred, and thirst for revenge to drive too many of his actions. I'm pretty sure that Wax and Wayne would find him to be villainous if he gets any screen time. So yeah, I do see a conflict between Marsh and Kel. I don't think I see Marsh surviving that though.
  4. Its funny, I had not seen this, and started a thread along similar lines in the Warbreaker section yesterday. We know, both from Warbreaker, and the Warbreaker annotations that Endowment picks who returns, gives them a vision of the future where they may be able to play a part to help or prevent the outcome. Se gives them the choice to return, and if they accept, she wipes the memory (Paradox prevention?) and sets them loose. As they approach their goal, they maybe get some visions. Or maybe they are driven in a direction from the first (Blushweaver for example). And all five of the scholars were returned who became some of the most skilled and most influential beings of their time. And they created Nightblood - who is being followed by one of the remaining scholars, and a descendant of the returned, on Roshar. While Brandon has not given us much info on how skilled Edgli is at future-sight compared to other shards, she has to be medium to top tier in my mind if she can grant visions to those who Return before she offers them a Divine Breath. So, in my mind, Edgli is playing the longest of games. She may be erratic, but she has a goal. And while she may not have known exactly how Nightblood would turn out, or the full Ramifications of his existence, I definitely think she was picking her Returned with the goal of creating something like Nightblood that would be in place in time for Odium's return to Roshar. She definitely has skin in the game and has her finger on the scale. Whose side of the scale is anyone's guess, but I have no doubt she is in the know and prodding events through the use of the players who carry her Investiture.
  5. Not sure if this has been theorized before, but been having thoughts, and I figured I'd write them out and get people's opinions. My thought is that Edgli, the vessel for Endowment has really good Futuresight and manipulated events to bring a weapon like Nightblood into existence to further her goals for the Cosmere endgame. First things first: Brandon gas been cagey about how well Endowment can see the future: But we know that futuresight plays a role in Endowment's Returned. Each Returned, at the moment of their first death, is granted a vision of the future by Endowment, where they see an important event that their presence can aid in providing a favorable result. Sometimes it is by their action - Lightsong saving the Godking. Sometimes it is by what they can teach - Calmseer showing Lightsong the value of sacrifice and caring for others. And then they have their memory erased so that they cannot try to pre-emptively change things and cause paradoxes. Though sometimes they get hints in visions or dreams to poke them in the right direction. Regardless, all Returned return for a purpose. And that purpose involves visions of possible futures. We also know that the five scholars were all Returned. They returned, for a purpose as of yet unknown to us, though some of them may have accomplished that purpose before their demise. Regardless, they went on to become some of the most skilled Awakeners of the era, and all highly contributed to the advancement of Awakening as a science. They created and improved the lifeless, they discovered new commands. And Shashara created Nightblood with Vasher. Shashara is dead, killed to prevent her from creating another Nightblood, but Vasher is still lurking about, following and guiding Nightblood in his own way. So what if Edgli has top tier Futuresight, and used it to create the five scholars, knowing that they would create Nightblood. Knowing that Nightblood and Vasher would eventually end up on Roshar in time for Odium's break-out. Knowing that Nightblood would be a weapon that obliterates its foes on all three realms? Does anyone else feel that Edgli is playing the longest game, and that Nightblood is her endgame piece? Her ace in the hole?
  6. Nah, you need to creatively stack together the abandoned sets of shard plate from five orders of Radiants with non-overlapping Surges to unlock their final mecha form. When combined in the right order, with the users shouting the right oaths, while holding out the proper coloured power stones, they assemble into a five-pilot shardplate-chasmfiend. Best way to fight a Thunderclast.
  7. You may be right about the one blade at a time restriction. I honestly don't know how it works, I can only hope to see that later. But you can definitely use the surges of a dismissed blade that you have in your possession. The third Szeth Interlude in Way of Kings, I think it is the third. Anyway, he goes to kill a king on Mr. T's orders, only to find it is a trap, and he is stuck in a room with a bunch of noble bystanders, two full shardbearers and the king with a blade. In his anger at the king for sacrificing his people to trap Szeth, he dismisses the Honorblade and proceeds to beat both Shardbearers using only Surgebinding. So you can definitely use the surges of a dismissed Honorblade.
  8. They probably could use more than one Honorblade at a time, but I think there would be consequences. Even if you only hold five - the minimum you need to hold all 10 surges. The first time Syl sees Szeth with the Windrunner blade, she is horrified, because it gives power, but with out the safety and limitations of the Nahel bond. It is more dangerous, and less efficient with Stormlight. So there is a good chance that for every Honorblade you hold, the risk is magnified, and the efficiency is reduced. Worse still, if that is an exponential curve, not linear. You likely end up in a situation were you have all the power, but no control or light retention due to the multiple 'hacks' into the system. Closest we have for comparison is Amaram when he swallowed Yelig-Nar. He got all ten surges, but seemed to have so little control that he mainly fought with his swords, and the surgebinding seemed to be mostly reflexive. And it seemed to accelerate his corruption. So my bet is that someone can use multiple honorblades at once. But just like the spren are not comfortable/happy with the idea of someone binding multiple spren, I feel that using multiple blades is prohibitively dangerous and has sever negative consequences for the user's body and spirit-web.
  9. Oh, I'd love a scene between Sazed and Jasnah where they both gripe about how their followers refuse to believe that they aren't gods. I mean the followers of the Path are even instructed not to pray to Saze.
  10. Isn't that the true form of Highspren in Shadesmar?
  11. And when he reveals his two blades, he will tell Szeth that they are named 'Des' and 'Troy.'
  12. If they ever get around to doing a live action or animated Stormlight series, is it bad that I want to see Nale acted/voiced by either Stallone or Urban now?
  13. I had no idea he had mused about spren POVs where we could hear him. That news makes me happy. But, sadly, I don't see that happening before the back five books.
  14. Having a sentient spren viewpoint, any sentient spren viewpoint, would be super cool. The chapters we have gotten from Eshonai and Venli have been pretty interesting to me. Getting into the headspace of a non-human race to see how they perceive the world is pretty cool. Getting inside a spren's mind? Yeah, that would be neat. A resurrected Maya, or seeing the thought process of an Inkspren - driven by logic, with that interesting speech pattern. Or in the mind of a pattern? Or Glys, or even one of the Unmade? I'd love to see a spren POV. But Maya's is top of my list.
  15. A more interesting question, at least to me, is that if Maya gets revived, will she still have her memories from before? If yes, will we get her as the Interlude Novella character viewpoint to recount some of those memories, mixed with her adjusting to her new life and how the world has changed?