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  1. Planning on flying in friday morning, should have plenty of time to spare to make the signing. See y'all there!
  2. @Pagerunner we just got a new WoB that hints at Unmade having existed on other planets in the Rosharan system:
  3. ketek

    I love this thread, might as well contribute after lurking all this time. Torturous leaves sprout, seeds of doubt springs doubt of seeds, sprout leaves torture.
  4. Vivenna seems to possess that knowledge herself; there is a big chance it was made by Yesteel but there is also a big chance it wasn't. This could also be explained within the theory as the new blade only possessing a portion of a divine breath while Nightblood inherited a full one, although we dont know much about the mechanics of what decides this. Edit: I do believe Nightblood involved more than this though, as Brandon has hinted that a mixing of other Shard's investiture took place with Nightblood although that is still not more than a theory extrapolated from a purposely vague and up in the air WoB.
  5. I'm doing a reread of Warbreaker right now so I've been shooting a lot of quick ideas for theories off on the Discord and this was the one that i think was the best so i thought I'd do a small write up on it here. As we all know, the Royal Locks are a phenomenon when a Returned has a child and that child is endowed with a piece of a Divine Breath through a process we don't fully know the parameters of. We also know that this process likely could result in a full Divine Breath being endowed from the fact that many Godkings were created through natural birth yet no distinction between them and the ones who were made Godkings after Returning during infancy is ever brought up. With this in mind, read the below WoB: Notice how Brandon specifically ties the manifestation of consciousness to this idea that the creators of a machine would be realmatically similar to its parent. What if this holds true for type 4 Biochromatic Entities, and a factor in why Nightblood is so different (especially from the one we see Vivenna use in OB) is because he was made by a Returned? It would explain this quote and the phenomenon Vivenna refrencest: What do you guys think, is this plausible?
  6. In the released Dragonsteel there is a scene where it is revealed that the Sho Del use silver sheathes. This stuck out to me as an odd material for a sheathe so I asked about it in the reddit AMA and here is the response: Seeing as how Ambitions Vessel was a Sho Del, my latest crackpot is that perhaps silver being an important metal on Threnody is a result of Uli Da's culture being expressed in the magic. Really glad (and a bit surprised i was right there) to have gotten this confirmation, what do you guys think?
  7. Like I said, its up to interpretation, just something I thought could be relevant. Also, the disease magic apparently was not always the magic system on Ashyn:
  8. There is some evidence to suggest that the Singers didnt use any magics prior to the First Desolation in the Eila Stele but its up to interpretation.
  9. Two more recent WoB on this topic came up that bring things together a bit more: Good to see confirmation one of the (safer) theories in my OP, that Voidbinding originates with the Unmade. The second WoB further limits the number of potential magic systems that the original human refugees used.
  10. I still think the voices might be Shadows, just ones with a Spiritual Connection strong enough to allow communication. Odium in particular has a thing for turning the dead of those slain into CS', and the voices have given several hints that they are associated with Odium. I have a recent theory, or couple of theories rather, related to all of this that I know Cal disagrees with but I think its a valid alternative theory.
  11. I'm wary to draw parallels between how Sazed talks about these things and how these phrases are used on Roshar. Roshar has a long history of interaction with spren and with understanding their nature and the terminology there seems to be a lot more Investiture focused, read the below passage from Ivory: He directly ties the corruption of Glys' intent to it being "of Odium"; these phrases are obviously being used in different ways here and I lean more towards the precedent being set within the same series. Your interpretation could definitely be correct but I think mine is just as valid. When Honor says this, it always seemed to me that it was within the context of humanity being able to somehow utilize them against Odium, being brought up directly in connection to the success they would have if they forced Odium to choose a champion. Honor was a little all over the place at the end, and with what we learn at the end of Oathbringer about what Honor thought about the Dawnshards there may be more interpretations as to his meaning here, but they would all be awkward non-sequiturs in my eyes. In my presumed context, having a Dawnshard trapped and being able to utilize them are two different things so my theory would still make sense. The Sibling had also become catatonic by this point so that fits as well. I could see why you would be hung up on that quote but I feel like a very strict interpretation of what he means by "without" is necessary for it to disprove my theory, even within interpretations other than my own things could still fit. I really don't think that where these entities are physically (or cognitively) now holds much relevance as to where they originated. As you mentioned, the Fused became trapped on Braize following the Oathpact despite originally being Rosharan natives and having nothing to do with Braize other than being of Odium. We dont even know if other non-Fused Cognitive Entities are locked in Braize or if its just them, the Stormfather says that the Oathpact was meant specifically meant to lock away the Fused in the below passage because of their ability to directly affect the PR and kill people. Any power leveled on them wouldn't necessarily affect the Unmade as well, so it makes sense that they would be spared its effects: The Unmade would obviously be of most use sticking around on and influencing Roshar, so them constantly being there makes way more sense than them being on Braize for no reason, but that doesn't mean Roshar is their origin. The connection they have to Voidbinding and the slight evidence we now have as to Voidbindings origins could point to them originating on Ashyn, but that remains one of the more tenuous conjectures in my theory so I'll put leave this reply here and tell y'all to take that statement with a grain of salt. Thanks for the in depth reply Page, I've been waiting for your response.
  12. In the WoK, Hoid tells the story of a group of people who committed horrible things under the orders of a king only to discover that that king had been dead for years, and that they were responsible for their horrible actions. The dead king is discovered in the passage below: “Derethil and his men came out of the tower a short time later, carrying a desiccated corpse in fine robes and jewelry. ‘This is your emperor?’ Derethil demanded. ‘We found him in the top room, alone.’ It appeared that the man had been dead for years, but nobody had dared enter his tower. They were too frightened of him." In the final chapter Dalinar finally realizes that the Almighty hadn't been talking in response to him, that he hadn't been following orders but had been misinterpreting the visions. He then learns that the Almighty is dead. The title of this final chapter? In the Top Room.
  13. I've started thinking about this more and I think I see where this specific problem could lie. We know through the famous Argent WoB that Renarin was definitely Voidbinding, but we havent seen hints of anything else like his bond yet. It's interesting then that Nightform Listeners seem to be able to manipulate the same Voidbinding surge as him (likely through a form, as the name implies, and not a bond like Renarin). Just as the Singers with forms of power are able to use Surges outside of the KR magic system and its rules, it seems as if there are Singers who could use Voidbinding surges as well. Its curious to me that the form associated with Renarin's powers (granted to him by Sja-Anat's corrupted spren) is described as "The form of shadows", imagery we see associated with Sja-Anat in Oathbringer: I could easily see the historical distinction between these two kinds of Voidbinding as the issue Brandon is alluding to here. What are your guy's thoughts?
  14. We got some WoB relevant to this theory from the Skype Q&A so I thought I'd go over that stuff here real quick. First up, one on my conjectures on Voidbinding: I'm pretty confused as to what that first part could be getting at, as he left it about as vague as he possibly could as to what he was specifically referring to. That last part, however, did narrow down some options. We know that the surges related to the powers of the Heralds and Surgebinding are a direct manifestation of Honor, so this eliminates the portion of fabrial magic that draws upon those surges to function. At this point we know it was likely Voidbinding, the Old Magic, some other Ashyn related system, or possibly fabrials that manipulate any of those. I'm glad this one didn't get RAFOed outright. This question is a bit more important though and is some of the most concrete proof that perhaps the Sibling is more than they appear. Read the below WoB: That first WoB, coupled with the fact that the Sibling is non-binary is great evidence that the spren could have existed prior to the desolation of Ashyn, which supports the claims I make in this theory as to its nature. All in all, pretty cool stuff. Big thanks to whoever asked my question for me.
  15. Honor didn't have to be involved in Cultivation's decision to follow him as well.