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  1. A thought. On Yolen there is a race of dragons. Could Chiri-Chiri be a young dragon, somehow brought over from Yolen?
  2. Did David refuse a power from Calamity (no fear, so it couldn't take hold), or did he get a power he doesn't know about, and simply did not go crazy because he already faced his fear?
  3. Repeating from another thread. Our "Robot Spren" friend forms a bond with someone in order to talk to them. And he can form as many bonds as he wants (he talks to a lot of people). Similar to Seon's, this bond, on Roshar, should do something (but not, of course, the surges associated with the other KR spren). We know that Vasher requires breath to survive. Somehow, he is able to use stormlight to the same purpose. I think, from what we know, it is likely that the "talking bond" Nightblood creates is enough to allow folks access to breathing in Stormlight. I think it is reasonable to assume that anything all Knights Radiant have in common (not specific surges) would be shared with anyone that bonds with Nightblood (or Seon). That is, for example, breathing in Stormlight, and using it for healing Note: Lopen is somehow associated with Syl's bond (through Kaladin, or in some other manner). This very minor bond gives him access to stormlight & healing. Don't see why Nightblood can't duplicate that with his minor bond that allows speech. I wonder if Syl does the same thing. That is, Kaladin's Squires have something like a "talking bond" to Syl. So Syl could talk to them, if she wanted to.
  4. http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/
  5. So: Are Honorblades a type of Fabrial? First a quote: http://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=1052 So. What we know. The Heralds were given Honorblades. These blades allow them to do special things (surges & absorb stormlight). Later, Spren bonded with Humans, and are able to emulate Honorblades. When one of these Spren "dies" it has the physical form of an ShardBlade (mimicking an honorblade). There are other quotes saying that the Heralds can only do surgebinding with the HonorBlade but have other "gifts" as well. Speculation (Honorblades & old-style Fabrials): 1) Honor created (or had someone create, or created with the help of Cultivation) 10 Super-Fabrials, the Honorblades, gave these to the Heralds, along with some additional investment to the Heralds themselves. 2) The creation of (old-style) Fabrials has something to do with Spren. Changing a spren to, or forging a spren with an object (metal?). I cannot speculate here. We have two types of examples in the Cosmere. Investiture can have a solid form (metal) - so possibly, a spren + solid investiture could be shaped into a sword. We also have an example of a normal sword imbued with "breath" that creates a "type of Shardblade". 3) Other Fabrials were created in a similar way (regrowth, soulcasting, etc). basically, small scale, single surge human copies of the Honorblades (not sure if the shape is important for old-style fabrials). 4) Holding an Honorblade gives a user an imperfect bond with the Spren within the Honorblade. The holder can absorb stormlight to power the surges, but is not efficient. The stormlight holding ability is not part of the lesser man-made old-style fabrials, which require inset stones as a powersource, (or power from someone with a spren-bond, that is, the surgebinder is the power source, rather than a gem). That is, the man-made fabrials do not provide a bond with the holder, which allows holding stormlight -- though something odd is happening to those folks who use a Soulcaster too often. 5) The weak bond to the Honorblade spren may or may not allow small changes to the Honorblade's appearance over time. 6) Spren gain consciousness over time. I believe that is stated in the books. I assume the Honorblade is created with a pre-conscious/unthinking/primordial radiant spren Speculation (Shardblades & new-style Fabrials) 1) Mature Spren of the same type used for the Honorblades bonded with normal Humans, and learned they could mimic the Honorblades (that is, are able to manifest in the physical world as a blade, and provide surgebinding - this may imply that the Honorblades are simply bound Spren, not swords imbued with spren). 2) Because the bond is strong, the physical manifestation is more malleable (can be sword, spear, knife, etc), and Stormlight use is more efficient (unlike the weaker version of the bond with an Honorblade). The "Dead" spren manifest as a sword, because that is how they see themselves (mimicking the Honorblades). However, they can also change slightly over time, depending on their wielder. The "dead"-spren bond must be even weaker than that with Honorblades, since the wielder cannot hold stormlight. 3) I am categorizing New-style Fabrials with the Knights Radiant, because, instead of the spren manifesting as the Fabrial, a spren is captured in a gem, and the fabrial is a separate component (like the KR), making use of the spren's innate investiture. Now. using all this speculation, I can infer that Shardplate is an Old-style Fabrial (made up of spren, the same way old Fabrials were made) and requires either a Radiant, or gems to provide power. Further, that the original KRs (or a specific subset of them) knew how to (were able to) make old style Fabrials, since the KRs have plate, and access to old-style fabrials (in the visions). Other posts that touch on this topic: http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/7647-spren-splinters-old-style-fabrials http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/6819-the-origin-of-shardplate/
  6. A portion of Odium & Cultivation bonded to Metal? And slightly less efficient than when a bond is made with animal? Just flailing here. Was just contemplating "how you would count" the magic systems. is it 1, 3, 100, ... Mistborn
  7. Some thoughts (nothing new). The planet shapes the magic system, to some respect. Listeners were (most likely) around when Adonalsium was invested there. The Listeners bond to spren to shape what they are (warrior, scholar, etc). All the native life appears to bond to spren to develop as well. Honor and Cultivation (shards of Adonalsium) come on the scene. And we have magic that requires humans bonding with Honor/Cultivation spren. Odium spren bond with Listeners to create Voidbringers. Spren can be placed into gems, to create devices. I think the common element for Roshar, to this point, is that all magic requires a bond with Spren. Whether Human/Listener, or Object (gem). Old style fabrials don't have captured spren (in the gem). The Gem is simply the battery, holding the power (stormlight). In that case, the spren may actually be in the metal instead? Assuming everything works due to a spren bond. The Stormfather, maybe he is connected with the planet itself? Or atmosphere. Nightwatcher... Not sure about the superspren. So, what if there is only 1 magic system (something {animal or mineral} bonds with a Spren). And the only mixing is Odium, Honor, and Cultivation composition of the spren (and Odium is unlikely to allow mixing with the other two). And the affect is just a result of the makeup of the bond. Shard combination + animal/mineral type? that is, one magic system + sub-magic categorizations (fabrials for spren/object pairs; Listeners/Greatshells for Native life development; Surgebinding for Human/Spren bonds; Voidbringers, etc). Just not sure about the Super-Spren. The Stormfather can bond with Humans for Surgebinding, and also pump investiture into storms. Nightwatcher obviously does something too, though not sure how/why.
  8. This may be answered somewhere... The investiture that Nightblood absorbs and corrupts: is it recycled? That is, does it go back the the Shard that it came from? Or am I confusing terms? Nightblood absorbs both breath/stormlight and Souls. My understanding is that investiture is a closed system. Not sure how Souls fit in. What is "corrupted Breath"? And if Nightblood can absorb and corrupt a soul, is this similar to how one of the Odium spren touches and corrupts Honor-spren?
  9. He gets to Seth awfully quickly, when he "dies". I think it likely that he has his blade, was monitoring from nearby, and flew there (since that should be one of the abilities of the skybreakers).
  10. I think this is it. Heleran's blade is different from the Blade that Shallon had, the one he took away and locked in his safe.
  11. Without the gems on the Shardblades -- don't the shards remain in the physical world? I thought it was necessary to add the gems to get the dead-spren blades to bond enough that they could be dismissed (which they then automatically do when dropped). When bonded dead-spren blades are dismissed, to what realm do they go? If the cognitive realm, do they appear as "sleeping spren" floating in the ocean of the cognitive realm? It does seem a bit counter-intuitive that when the bond to a dead-spren blade breaks (death, broken gem, or whatever) they come fully back to the physical, but if a live spren's bond breaks by death, they go back to the cognitive. And that summoning a dead-spren blade is "awakening" them, since the same thing happens when the bond is broken.
  12. The pronunciation of 'Sadeas' was a bit surprising though, considering Michael Kramer and Kate Reading are married. I would have thought they would have discussed the characters, and how they would portray them, during production.
  13. We do have another example of physical transformation on Roshar. The Listeners. Are there any irreplaceable gems on a soul-caster? Ones that may contain spren? All the "new" fabrials contain spren. The old may not -- but the magic of this planet seems to require some sort of link to spren (or physically investature like the Herald's swords). I would suggest that Ardents who soulcast a lot are creating a listener-type bond with some sort of spren, which causes appearance changes. Though that seems a bit of a stretch.
  14. Thanks for the additional info. I guess we will find out more in the next book. Would be interesting to see how Vasher has rigged things so that he can access stormlight. We may find out from Szeth. I may be remembering incorrectly, but I thought she used the mists to defeat the Lord Ruler (after her earring was removed). And that was before the Well. But this is off-topic.
  15. Not sure why folks keep saying this. We know Vasher can access stormlight. It is "what he can get easier" then breath, the reason he is where he is. The most reasonable reason that Vasher can access stormlight is that he has a bond with Nightblood, who is in many ways equivalent to a shardblade. Nightblood, a breath-awakened object, is the jury-rigging of the system required to let a person from Nalthas access the power on Roshar. I think it plausible, that if Szeth forms the same "bond" with Nightblood (which he probably had immediately, since he spoke to Szeth), he will have the same access to Stormlight that Vasher has. He would then have no need of an additional spren-bond. Though there is no reason he could not obtain one. Or... have I missed a WoB that contradicts this?
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