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  1. Wo, the Mighty Calderis agrees with me! I feel honored I lurk a lot and post very little, but you are a constant in these forums Your thread is interesting. I was discarding this as just a what if but you gave it a structure good enough to consider it. The WoB does say that the holder shapes the intent. So, imagine someone like Adolin or Waxillium picking Odium and getting Valor instead, or something like that... Huh... Food for thought!
  2. This is more a big "what if" than a theory. Maybe it has been discussed already but I was just wondering... Ati describes himself as "Change", rather than just "decay". Rayse does the same, his religion is the "Passions", and he claims that all "passions" are his. But both are known for the negative aspect of their Intents, Ruin (a kind of change) and Odium (definitively a strong emotion / passion). AFAIK the shards have their own intents, period. But I figured the holder might fine-tune it. Ati might have even tried but failed, given he has been described as a good man. But imagine what kind of story would we have had if instead of Ruin and Preservation, we got Progress and Stagnation, wit these names, the Good/Bad roles seem to be reversed! Or if Odium was Love, could even work as a villain too, Love can be pretty toxic if it devolves into jealousy. Honor might have been Stubbornness. Endowment might have been Martyrdom, always giving herself for others. Heck, Sazed names himself Harmony because he believes he controls two oposite forces, but the forces have him trapped and limit his actions, so they are not very harmonious... He could have named himself Discord, to represent this conflict, if the depressive side of him were the dominant when he took the shards... You get the Idea. As I said it's not even a theory. Ati would not have ended as he did if it were that simple as to change perspectives. But I think it's a fun "what if" exercise.
  3. Figured the answer would be something like that.. I dunno I reread all of Mistborn recently and I remember that scene being pretty chaotic. I guess divine intervention can force chance too... but for Spook to be stabbed through a pewterarm and the tip of the blade just break and get stuck in him... Well. Divine intervention, no need to make sense. As for the actual thread: Can you even make a spike without killing the donor?
  4. But... What about Spook? That was totally accidental.
  5. Well then we agree on that I actually meant that me, as a reader, always cared about the impending GOD of doom, and felt like the politicking and more mundane issues in the first books were CONNECTED to that, even if it wasn't it's main focus. That's why I compared it to ASOIF, where yes, there is interesting intrigue happening while some old horror is stirring, but the two are so disconnected that could be two totally different stories. Really none of the characters has changed their objectives, just the scope of them. Dalinar thought he had to unite Alethkar, now he's not sure if he has to unite the world, the Radiants, or what the heck, but it is much more than just a country. Kaladin started saving himself, then saving those near to him, and now has expanded into saving even the enemy if possible. Adolin was purpose-less, mere moving with the flow, and then decided to defend the Kholinar house. First against his father, then against Sadeas. Now against a god. To answer the topic question: I never noticed that to have a Nahel bond, Shallan had to be broken even BEFORE what happened with her family. And she was so little... What did break such a young person in an at the moment peaceful household? Her father didn't have the "darkness" yet and while her mother had an affair, it's not something such a young girl would really understand, not enough to break her, I think. So... Hum...
  6. To me that was a very big dejabu (however that is spelled) from Song of Ice and Fire. People too focused on their mundane problems while the world is about to crumble around them. Thankfully Sanderson did it way better than Martin (IMO) and most of the major political powers are also aware of the impending doom one way or another, and their squabbles have a larger purpose. Everyone except Sadeas. So, while yes, there is a scale shift, I feel it's natural. It's not like they have dismissed petty squabbles yet. One of the major concerns is forging a coalition, or avoiding the creation of one (depending on who's point of view you consider) rather than fighting an irascible godling.
  7. As far As I understand, and don't take my word as gospel, Roshar does get eroded. But crem flies with the storms and deposites itself all around so the continent, through the ages, changes shape. I saw someone equate this as being a "slice" of a 4D object intersecting with our 3D world, like the transformation through time is planed and not random, but cannot find the proper thread to link to you right now. EDIT: Also, Welcome to the Shard!
  8. I have had this in my mind since way back when we learned that healing mostly depended on the self-image of the healed person (at least with Stormlight). Does this mean that if for some reason, call it magic, call it brainwashing, or the super-power of extreme self-delusion, you had a Radiant believe that he is phisically different from what he is, he would "heal" into that new shape? You convince a tall man that he was short and should be short, or convince another that he was changed to a man by evil magic but he was instead a woman... Would they eventually "heal" themselves until they are a short man and a woman, respectively? Or maybe it wold only work with less drastic changes, like change of skin tone, gain/loss of muscular mass, minor alterations in facial features, etc... Is this possible to "heal" into something/someone else if you confuse enough the mind that's supposed to filter the investiture? Possible cons: I do remember mention of a "perfect version of self" stored in the Spiritual realm, that the cognitive aspect uses as a template for healing, but that "perfect version" ought to be modificable, or else no matter how Kaladin sees himself, his perfect version wouldn't have scars and he would not heal them back.
  9. I thought that meant he was seeing into Shadesmar like all the other Radiants have done. It's always described with a small, distant sun, and I thought he meant that.
  10. But Harmony himself knows what Rashek did with the power of Preservation instinctively upon picking it up. He actually writes (or makes appear already written) a book with all his findings. He knew exactly why and how did Rashek alter Scadrial and it's people. That suggests that shards do contain a "log" of what's been done with them and who did it...
  11. Huh, that's weird. I usually don't check the WoB, as I prefer to RAFO, and when he clarifies nothing he is giving an info that's not really on the books. I dunno why but I feel like it's a little bit like cheating. (THen I come here and discuss everything and learn it anyway, but we humans are so weird anyway...) At first when I learned about the Ire I thought that they were from a distant future in regards to Elantris. I remember that Elantris is set waaaaaaay before Mistborn, so my conclusion was that these Elantrians were post-Raod, not "pre". Even if they looked old and ancient... Because (in my mind at least) wouldn't they have fixed Elantris city if they were around at the time? Wouldn't their powers be broken as much as anyone else's? Again, I guess there is WoB confirmind that they are from before and that's why everyones agrees on it, it just goes against my first conclusion on the subject.
  12. Oh I got it, really! I mentioned that it isn't a surge because it got mixed in my head with all the other info about the other surges, but anyway I thought (and still think) it has merit on it's own as a different thing, either a new unrelated power or just the especial mix of surges. I've might not been clear enough in text but that's what I wanted to express
  13. As said Unity is not a surge. But I think you are not totally wrong. After all wind runners have 3 lashings. 1 feels like is Gravitation, the second is Adhesion, and the third feels like a mix of both. It could be that this specific power is a mix of Tension and Adhesion.
  14. What? I thought she just had not tried to breath in Stormlight. Regarding Jasnah, I think she would be incredibly annoyed at having that extra task on her when she has mysteries to unravel. One of two things would happen, she might be extremely good at it regardless, or relegate it to the back of her mind while all rust hits the fan and sooner or later decide that she cannot keep being so many things at the same time (radiant, scholar, queen), and choosing what she wants to do and do it properly. The second feels more interesting to read
  15. So they were using a similar magic system... I can't gel the disease=magic system with the medieval-esque humans in roshar though :S But I'm sure he'll manage to make it feel natural, as always. I assumed humans were voidbinding in Ashyn because allegedly Odium was their patron shard there, wasn't he? It was the humans that brought Odium to Roshar and then the parsh changed teams. I mean, maybe when Odium got trapped with Honor and Cultivation that colored how his magic system worked, but it should not be that big of a change. And whatever humans did on Ashyn wasn't powered by Honor so it had to be powered by Odium , or with no shard it would have been one of the weak magic systems, incapable of something like destroying a world...