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  1. I think the reasoning is that because there's a connection, keep them together. Honestly, I don't think it's worth changing this. Those charts are very tedious to edit.
  2. It's been two years since Brandon's huge Year of Sanderson announcement, so we thought we'd talk about how we feel about it. How tired are we? What was our favorite Secret Project? How were the Year of Sanderson boxes? Do note we recorded this prior to the Words of Radiance leatherbound announcement of yet another Secret Project, so please keep that in mind. There's a new one coming in 2025 and we get a reading on March 21st. This episode we have Eric (Chaos), Ian (Weiry), Evgeni (Argent), Ene (Aon Ene), and Kendra (little wilson)! Postcard display: https://dragonwoodshop.com/products/postcard-display-3-slot Pin display: https://dragonwoodshop.com/products/pin-display-2x3inch-slots Chapters: 00:00 Introductions & News (But not SP5) 10:12 Year of Sanderson, Brandon (Not) Dying, How Tired Are You 17:06 Titles Being Spoilers 25:10 Exhausted by Brandon Content, Cosmere Drought, Industry stuff 45:33 Favorite of the Secret Projects 1:09:23 Subscription Boxes 2:01:46 Who's That Cosmere Character If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discord.gg/17thshard Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
  3. This is still in the spoiler period. I've moved it to the appropriate board.
  4. We're back with more WoBs, and this time it's the last of the Dragonsteel 2023 Words of Brandon. Today we have a grab bag of a bunch of random stuff, like kandra babies, stabbing Hoid with atium, Harmony lying, and the IDENTITY FIELD returns. This episode we have Ian (WeiryWriter), Evgeni (Argent), and Grace (thegatorgirl). Our thumbnail today is a piece we commissioned from Ashley Coad (https://www.ashleycoadart.com/). By supporting our Patreon, you can vote on what art we commission every month! Here's this awesome piece: https://www.patreon.com/posts/december-2023-98742446 Dragonwoodshop's frame for the Year of Sanderson postcards: https://dragonwoodshop.com/products/postcard-display-3-slot Our Arcanum collection of the WoBs we discussed: https://wob.coppermind.net/collections/1239/ Chapters: 00:00 Introductions 4:37 Other forms of Investiture to Awaken stuff 11:06 Can people other than yoki-hijo negotiate with spirits? 16:28 How much knowledge does a new Vessel get? 26:20 Why did the Heralds think they needed to leave their Blades? 28:46 Vin's earring 30:47 Enhanced Leeching on a normal person 38:47 Why do only the Heralds have magical maladies? 44:36 Dawnshards and Splintered Shards 50:39 Kandra and human babies hybrids?? 51:52 The Shroud and tin 56:03 Editorial changes from arcanist comments 59:38 Was Harmony lying at the end of Lost Metal? 1:03:51 Holding Vessels in Hemalurgic spikes 1:07:35 Shallan alter's shapeshifting 1:09:28 Shades attacking non-Threnodites 1:12:19 Canticle's subastral 1:14:53 Was Yolen technologically advanced? 1:18:16 Spiking atium into Hoid's chest 1:21:00 Aux and Nomad's bond is kind of flipped, can this happen to Adolin and Maya? 1:28:14 Who's That Cosmere Character If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discord.gg/17thshard Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
  5. Hi all, We are extending the spoiler period for The Sunlit Man. Normally, it would end on March 1st if we follow our standard six month rule. However, Tor's release of the book is March 5th, so that doesn't feel appropriate. We are extending the period to April 5th to give people a little time there.
  6. I've moved this to Cosmere Discussion. When your opening line has non-Mistborn stuff, it's gotta go in there!
  7. I moved this question to Cosmere Discussion, for obvious reasons.
  8. Today on our eternal string of Words of Brandon episodes, we are continuing to talk about what happened from Dragonsteel 2023. And in this case we learn about the GRAND APPARATUS and a lot of WoBs about Hoid's dating life. Also, there's a legitimately serious Stick discussion. Yes, really. This episode we have Eric (Chaos), Ian (Weiry), Alyx (Feather), Evgeni (Argent), and Joshua (jofwu)! Our thumbnail today is not the Grand Apparatus, but actually Cybertron by Jaime Jasso: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/4rvn1 Dragonsteel 2023 Spoiler Q&A: Dragonsteel 2023 Spoiler Q&A: https://youtu.be/fDm5Hif5rQo?si=rpVcPfWKjlmFsSPQ Our Arcanum collection of the WoBs we discussed: https://wob.coppermind.net/collections/1238/ Chapters: 00:00:00 Introductions 00:01:49 Oathgate mechanics 0:04:19 Hoid dating dragons 0:08:58 Hoid dating Shards 11:04 Aether homeworld name except Brandon doesn't know how to say it 15:05 The Admiral is protagonist of Night Brigade 17:23 Overcoming Torments with soulstamps 18:47 BUG MRAIZE 24:02 THE GRAND APPARATUS 40:15 Skybreaker armor spren 46:14 Suppression fabrials on Radiants and Fused 48:32 Hoid punching Kelsier in his current state 51:13 Hoid and Nightblood 52:39 Types of Aviar 55:28 Night Brigade following Nomad but not Hoid 57:48 Hoid and Hemalurgic spikes 1:03:39 What does silver do? 1:06:41 Truthwatcher Surges 1:13:36 Oaths Hoid swore 1:17:17 Cinderhearts and Amaram 1:20:02 Did Renarin figure out Adolin killed Sadeas? 1:25:58 Who's That Cosmere Character If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discord.gg/17thshard Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
  9. I mean, you should choose an example from a religion you do not believe is true to see the problem with this logic. Lots of people from a variety of backgrounds say the same thing, and probably make the same claim you're making here. I'm sure any Muslim apologist probably does the same. So which is correct? Not both! So that means something is flawed here. Are those people from those other religions or backgrounds not sincere? How could you possibly evaluate that? I actually find Sazed's comments to be... Well. I honestly don't like them anymore, as I've progressed, that there is an element of truth to every religion. The implication there is that religion is something necessary and good, and it is my opinion that is not the case. As for me, I don't find belief without evidence compelling for anything. I want to believe in true things, not false things. Like, it's hard to explain to believers who think God's existence is so obvious, how the arguments for God are super weak, and the physical evidence is weak. It sure seems for those trying to verify the claims, God sure likes hiding. And He sure likes to hide from people who genuinely do not want to lose their faith (this is the problem of divine hiddenness). Faith, to me, is not sufficient. Many people believe lots of things, and the strengths of their beliefs does not make it true. People believed the sun rotated around the earth. That is false. So I don't mean to be crass, but if I already have to agree with you to see it's true, that just isn't a strong case for me. People can believe really hard and be sincerely mistaken, yes? There are many times I am dead convinced someone said something, and my recollection is inaccurate. I was sincere, yet wrong. I know you didn't come here to prove the existence of God, though. Thank you for trying to answer my initial question on spiritual experiences!
  10. Well, respectfully, this just sounds like brain signals. I do not believe in anything supernatural--i would love for such things to be real, but I need more than feelings. I need actual demonstration. If people want to attribute feelings to divinities, you certainly can, but I don't think that's a strong case. I think it's fairly weak, actually. When our brain is damaged, our "self" is changed. That certainly does not indicate that we are spirits. It indicates that we are meat. Is it possible there's something more? Sure. It just sounds to me that people want to have a special, divine purpose, and have looked for patterns to justify it. If there is literally nothing supernatural, there is nothing out of the ordinary. I personally see no reason to attribute these natural emotions--which we know for sure are things that it exist--to something we cannot demonstrate, like the supernatural. I just think if magical powers, divine powers, or something that was literally omnipotent, I could get more than a feeling. If God was real, this seems like a very bad way for us to get to know Him. Extremely unreliable. The warm fuzzy feelings you could attribute to any religion's deity, or nothing, and there is no way to distinguish which one is correct via them.
  11. Sorry, what does that last line even mean? I get that's trying to be profound, but honestly I can't even begin to parse it. We are spirits having a human experience? What? But we have human experiences and emotions all the time. How is this experience any different? It seems pretty clearly like a subset of emotions, rather than some special spiritual thing. Are nice emotions automatically spiritual? Is there a distinction? How do you determine that distinction?
  12. Sorry, we are not going to be doing that. There is way too much cosmere that is coming out too quickly for us to manage that we are not going to be able to put the colossal Wheel of Time series in. We deliberately made the call to not do this. There are other resources for that.
  13. Oh my goodness, everyone. We have SO many Words of Brandon episodes ahead of you. We're going out of order, with the Dragonsteel 2023 Spoiler Q&A! And sorry Lift-dragon enjoyers, that theory is dead! We also talk about a surprising amount of Warbreaker stuff, Zane, Mistborn: Birthright, and Alyx solves Silverlight. Some of those are even vaguely relevant to what we are talking about and not just nonsense. This episode we have Eric (Chaos), Ian (Weiry), Alyx (Feather), Evgeni (Argent), and David (Windrunner)! Thanks, Alyx, for being a champ with our nonsense. Dragonsteel 2023 Spoiler Q&A: https://youtu.be/fDm5Hif5rQo?si=rpVcPfWKjlmFsSPQ Our Arcanum collection of the WoBs we discussed: https://wob.coppermind.net/collections/1230/ 00:00 Introduction, Dragonsteel VIP Access for some reason 9:29 Is Nightblood a Dawnshard? 11:57 Does Rsyn have a Torment? 13:22 How good is Taln in a fight really? 16:56 Is Hoid able to use Soulstamps 26:36 Why can't Hoid Skip but Nomad can? (also random SiSG stuff) 34:34 Mistborn burning anti-lerasium 39:41 Making Lifeless out of chasmfiends 46:41 Dragon lift is DEAD (and other dragon WoBs) 1:06:02 Mistborn: Birthright blabbering 1:09:19 Are spores and fabrials affect by God Metals? 1:13:09 Animal bonds with aethers 1:18:02 Black smoke! 1:20:31 Color and Soulcasting 1:29:24 Dragon magic system 1:32:11 Manifested metal and burning it 1:39:41 Who's That Cosmere Character If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discord.gg/17thshard Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
  14. Hi everyone! I'm Eric. I've been in the fandom since 2008, before Mi'chelle and I made this community in 2010, so I've been doing Sanderson stuff nearly half of my life! That's kind of crazy to think about. I started on 17th Shard doing the technical side of things and run the forums, but my role quickly evolved to doing many other roles, such as Coppermind administrator and more. My hands have been in most pots over the last fifteen years. That ended up working out well, because I met my lovely wife, LadyLameness, on here! (Edit the Coppermind, you might find a spouse!) These days, I focus on the content creation side of things. I am known as the scheduling master for our recording plans, and I edit most of the Shardcasts. Outside of the fandom, I'm a college professor in mathematics, but my true destiny is to be a fantasy author, too! So look for my Brandon-sized novels that will be an unpublishably impractical length... eventually! I also love long RPG games, but end up only having time to accumulate more legendaries in Guild Wars 2.
  15. Regardless of whether or not there is a board, though I understand the concern, it is challenging to deal with user generated content if people are extremely averse to spoilers of preview content. Can happen all over the place. Even in a forum, that content can still appear in search results, profile pages, etc. I am sorry, but that is just the reality if you want to go totally blind. I'm not sure about that. I think people will be much more likely to put SA5 stuff into the Stormlight board than a subforum of a different board. With Cosmere crossovers, I think it's more intuitive. And it still will not help the bigger problem of that content appearing randomly in a post in a random Cosmere area one time. (See paragraph above.) Also, there are not that many of these until preview chapters come out that I think it's worth having a new forum. I remember the disaster of the Dawnshard forum and Discord channel that was created far too early...
  16. I know you've often been on this train, but considering the amount of people who don't even put things that should be in Cosmere Discussion, I think you'd have the exact same compliance issues. It doesn't solve any problems you list. I know you and I have discussed this, but I remain pretty convinced it would not be effective at doing what you want. (And in general, less boards are better.)
  17. It isn't? So... here's the thing. With Tress, Yumi, and Sunlit getting their own forums (and their "individual" non-cosmere discussion boards weren't that successful), the forum list is really long. This is only going to be worse over time. We can and will move forums out of there if needed, but this is a low-cost way to make scrolling down here usable. The subforums are easily clickable from the home. I do suspect Elantris will get moved out once we get sequels. You must admit everything we put in Other Cosmere is vastly less active than the ones we left out. It's emphasizing stuff that has naturally occurred. I think also as time goes on, defining "major Shardworld" will get more challenging. I have had sufficient Coppermind discussions that ultimately, I think the term is mostly useless. The White Sand prose board is merged in with White Sand. This has gotten very fuzzy and unenforceable anyway, and there will be yet another version soon. This stuff will all be horrendously intermingled. Considering the other active part of the forums is the Community area, this condensing makes scrolling a lot more tolerable, with limited downsides.
  18. I instantly went to watch this! I remember a while ago about Hannibal's crushing victory at Cannae, but man, it is so cool to go through it again. I love these videos.
  19. It's time for a Mistborn Shardcast! We have learned a lot of new stuff of Hemalurgy in The Lost Metal, so let's talk in extensive detail about those two chapters, and then talk about Hemalurgy implications for the future! This episode has Eric (Chaos), Evgeni (Argent), and David (Windrunner). Chapters: 00:00 Introductions and Show & Tell 4:18 Hemalurgy Fundamentals 16:08 Partial Hemalurgy Spikes 1:03:25 Ars Arcanum 1:55:08 Trellium 2:11:41 Other Thoughts 2:17:50 Who's That Cosmere Character Here are some of the other episodes and videos we referred to in this podcast: Hemalurgy 2018: https://youtu.be/hLM7hql2zFo?si=TgTkBe-wRblY_3_A White Sand Omnibus: https://youtu.be/BEm5TmHAKw4?si=lpScba-QPBRjikjM Our Brandon Interview: https://youtu.be/rkCP04Wo1Ho?si=ZAmOuSu7mlvZLJ60 Black Smoke / Midnight Essence: https://youtu.be/7o5DVWANF64?si=ypq2m9TR1gQ8qvOy Harmony: https://youtu.be/C-Qa5zNS57Q?si=X280mEKTNBpOpwRS Secrets in Stained Glass (our Mistborn actual-play): https://youtu.be/VneUfsu3RrU?si=KppT1qPDLXh8x4Vh Thumbnail by pekgna: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cnw84OtOktC/ If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discord.gg/17thshard Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
  20. I suspect Editorial is not going to correct typos in these--did they for Way of Kings Prime?--but in case they do, great!
  21. Ooof, my December and holiday period was far busier than expected. I am so sorry for the delay! Thumbs up from me on making a page, I definitely see what you are saying now, and in retrospect it's very obvious. This is great! I think my only concern is the History section. It seems to recount a lot of stuff that would, in my opinion, feel more appropriate for the Nalthis, Manywar, and Hallandren/Hanald pages. So I would try to focus to be solely about how the religion developed over those times, and cut out those other details.
  22. I've granted members an additional username change to help you. However, I may change this back to 2 at some other point.
  23. For those listening to the audio, I know Wind and Truth now comes out December 6th; we recorded this before that was announced!
  24. Brandon read an absolutely insane interlude for Stormlight 5 (now officially Wind and Truth) at Dragonsteel 2023, and so it's only fitting that we have our actually most unhinged Shardcast ever on it. This episode goes places, everyone. Are they insane tangents? Most of them... I hope you enjoy listening to this as much as I had in editing it! Obviously, this episode contains Stormlight 5 reading stuff, but there are some Sunlit Man comments in it too. On this episode, we have Eric (Chaos), Evgeni (Argent), Grace (thegatorgirl), and Ala (Rasarr)! Read the interlude here: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/522-dragonsteel-2023/#e16257 Watch Brandon narrate the interlude here: https://youtu.be/jhODyoRZUns?feature=shared&t=5100 Read Rasarr's Dragonsteel recap: https://www.17thshard.com/news/events/news-from-dragonsteel-2023-stormlight-5-release-date-reading-words-of-radiance-leatherbound-info-and-new-tabletop-games-r1023/ Thumbnail art is Cusicesh the Protector by Jordi Rapture, our March 2022 Patreon art commission: https://coppermind.net/wiki/File:Cusicesh_the_Protector_by_Jordi_Rapture.jpeg Chapters: 0:00:00 Intros 0:02:54 News, Show & Tell 0:07:20 Eric Experiencing the Interlude, General Thoughts 0:11:45 Other Interlude Speculation, Hating on Adin 0:26:04 Actually Talking About This Interlude 1:46:06 Aon Pendants, Random Crap 1:51:51 Who's That Cosmere Character 2:06:41 Conclusion If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discord.gg/17thshard Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
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