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  1. 35 points
    I have a joke about the 4th ideal of the Windrunners but I'm not ready to say the words.
  2. 29 points
    It's the story of a piece of God that was trying to understand the pain of a human and went to a god to ask for help, but he couldn't give it to her. So she went to a human that experienced pain himself, and he made her look into herself to find a way to understand. It's a fairytale with Stormlight characters. I've been in a somewhat emotionally fragile state since I read it.
  3. 25 points
    For the new Chapters:
  4. 25 points
    Made this a couple days ago but realized i probably couldn't put it in cremposting. Thank you so much for creating a meme page where RoW spoilers are fine!
  5. 24 points
    If you upvote this post you must upvote ^ this... but... Edit: I'm doing more of these. I'm so sorry.
  6. 23 points
    One of my most enjoyable memories of Oathbringer's pre-release was the Meme thread on the OB spoiler board here on 17th Shard. I saw a new meme on one of the threads here already, so I figured, it is time. Here are three memes I'm going to start the thread with. I'm sure you all will make better ones as the chapters come out. I look forward to seeing them.
  7. 23 points
    Quite a few good bits from this interlude. I wonder if Syl is hearing the conflux of the Rhythms that occurs in a highstorm? This appears to be a pretty clear confirmation that Shardplate is comprised of lesser spren. But it's something intentional, something that happens as a normal process of creating Shardblades, and thus wasn't "corrupted" or made terrible by the Recreance. Seems like Syl has some mental illness, as well, which has some interesting ramifications. This doesn't look like she's sharing Kaladin's situation. But, since mental illnesses have physiological components (which is why they can be treated with medication), how does this occur for a being who does not have a physiology? Lights, that aren't Stormlight? Could this be the mystery Third Light (not Voidlight or Stormlight)? Also, I think dead vs alive grants some more credence to the idea that the Sibling is Urithiru - Looks like Kaladin has a meltdown and gives up the life of a soldier. (But not that of a Radiant, since Syl's here.) I wonder what the impetus is. We know Kaladin's fighting in Hearthstone at the beginning of the book, from other excerpts. Does Lirin bite it? And Kaladin isn't enough of a surgeon to help him? So now Kaladin gives up his spear to focus on protecting people through healing them? But then again, this seems like something Dalinar did to him. Maybe Dalinar stripped him of his Surges, since they weren't healthy for him? Either way, it seems like we're going to see some serious regression on Kaladin's part, the same way we saw it with Shallan in Oathbringer. I was not a fan of it then; I hope it goes better this time around. Ah, the good lore dumps. Peakspren - I suspect these are the Stoneward spren. Mountain peaks, which are in fact quite rocky, will be a good name for "cracked stone" spren. The origin of intelligent spren is another interesting question; I think, with the genders they have, that they must have all come about from interactions with humans, which generally fits with the timeline. Dalinar's powers. The "Bondsmith" Syl is referring to has to be Ishar, I think. He's got some titles that match up pretty well - Binder of Gods, I believe, and Architect (or was it Founder?) of the Oathpact. (Not sure why "connected" to Braize isn't capitalized. But this seems like the same issue of Connection that's being discussed with Gavilar in the prologue.) And the Radiants being called "Ishar's Knights" fits with binding other Surges and creating/discovering the Nahel bond. I think the current role of Bondsmith has been formalized into the Surgebinder/Knight Radiant system, but the raw power of what a Bondsmith (and what Dalinar) can accomplish is something older and greater than Surgebinding. Which fits this description, and is something I've talked about in my thread on the Surges: that Dalinar has manipulated base Realmatics, on a more magical fundamental level than other magical applications from Radiants/Mistborn/Elantrians/what have you. He's something that can rewrite the code, something much more like Rashek holding the Well of Ascension in Mistborn. (And, well, didn't we explicitly hear that Dalinar Ascended at the end of OB?) And, specifically a "Bondsmith," aside from being a powerful manipulator of Realmatics, is now on Roshar also a Radiant.
  8. 22 points
    Is Kaladin Michael Jordan-ing? After Michael Jordan's father died, he quit basketball for a time to play baseball, the sport his father always wanted him to play. Eventually he came back to basketball. Has Lirin died and in his guilt and grief has Kaladin abandoned fighting to become a surgeon as he thinks he needs to make amends to his father? This could all be part of his journey to the fourth Ideal. He failed to protect his father and he's still struggling with his failure here.
  9. 21 points
    About Lirin. Not gonna somehow justify his attitude towards Dalinar, but this scene painfully reminded the readers that Lirin is the father of his son. Kaladin was just as disrespectful towards Dalinar and other lighteyes in TWOK and WoR as Lirin now. The same blood, the same genes, the same disrespectful and judging manners.
  10. 20 points
    Kaladin's potential romantic interests seem to be a much greater focus this time around. Bye bye shallan now we got Lyn? Kara?? and best of all Leshwi???????
  11. 19 points
    I don't know that I agree with that assessment. He reminds me of my mom. Her older brother suffered serious injuries in the Vietnam war and she worked at the VA hospital for 30 years treating war veterans. When you see that side of warfare, the human cost of it, for that long it really makes you think differently about what is actually worth sending your young men and women off to die for. So what you perceive as cowardice I perceive as a totally accurate portrayal of a pacifist medical professional. You can, of course, continue to read Lirin's perspective as cowardly. There isn't a wrong way to read a book, but I thought a different perspective on him might add to the discussion in a positive way.
  12. 19 points
    Not to dogpile, but I think that to certain worldviews, Lirin is a coward, in much the same way that Szeth is a murderer, Dalinar is a tyrant, Kaladin is dangerous (shash brand), etc. Worldviews impact the way that people are seen. Lirin operates from a very strong moral code--one against death and violence. His entire bent is to save lives, not take them or lose them in death and battle. He doesn't care who his overlords are; he only cares about doing his job. To people who believe that war is the solution, Lirin is a coward. Lirin would not protest the Nazi regime; he would be an Oskar Schindler, trying to save lives without directly defying the system that is taking them. Lirin would not advocate for a war to save his people, because the singers are also his people--people are his people. As a surgeon, he just wants the killing to cease. To some, that is cowardice; to others, it is the highest moral courage. I don't think Brandon is going to force a particular interpretation on people.
  13. 18 points
    Hello I bring alignment charts because they’re fun Warbreaker spoilers because it has come to my attention that we need more Warbreaker (and Elantris, and Rithmatist, and I haven’t read Alcatraz (yes, I’m sorry) but probably Alcatraz as well) memes.
  14. 18 points
  15. 18 points
    So readily admit it is in no way confirmation, but I feel Syl and Dalinar's conversation is another feather in the cap of my theory that Dalinar will have a hand in Adolin reviving Maya. His powers can literally affect the bonds between radiant and spren. I think this is foreshadowing of him restoring what was lost to those spren that were killed. Fingers crossed I am right!
  16. 17 points
  17. 17 points
    Whenever I post here I’m always worried that someone’s already made these memes, so I’m faced with the internal struggle of whether or not to post. But I made a bunch, so I may as well put them somewhere.
  18. 16 points
    Spoiler free memes Cosmere Spoilers
  19. 16 points
    Nice catch! Fixed?! (sorry for poor editing skills)
  20. 16 points
    Here's the biggest flaw in this ship; Shallan's problems stem from her father's terrifying overprotectiveness, while Kaladin is the next most overprotective character we see in the book. Even if Kaladin was protective in a healthy way, it would always bother Shallan and remind her of her father. She flips out on Adolin for talking about trying to protect her. There's no way she could be in a healthy relationship with someone who's powers and, at this point, identity are integrally twined with his need to protect everyone around him, especially those he loves.
  21. 15 points
    I cannot believe no one has done this before but:
  22. 15 points
    I'm curious to see who gets this joke.
  23. 15 points
    This theory is more like two theories that are loosely connected. My first theory is born from the ravings of Jezrien, when he is in the form of the Ahu on the beggar's porch in Kholinar: These three quotes from Jezrien seemingly establish several things: Jeizren hears voices in his head, much like Dalinar's and Szeth's. These voices have been confirmed by WoB to be tied somehow to the realmatics of the Cosmere, and I don't think it would be terribly contentious to say that they're specifically tied to the regional conditions found on Roshar. Seeing Dalinar's suffering, Jezrien leaps to the assumption that it is the consequence of one of the Unmade. He is correct on this, as Dalinar's actions at the Rift were being influenced by Nergaoul. In his third quote, Jezrien shows surprising wisdom given his current state. He is acknowledging responsibility for his actions, in a way which parallels Dalinar's moment of triumph at the battle of Thaylen Field, where Dalinar rejects Odium and accepts responsibility for being driven to kill by Nergaoul. In addition, Jezrien disturbingly seems to describe being tortured by the Unmade. Looking at theses statements, it becomes easy to wonder whether the Unmade have had a hand in Jezrien's current condition. After all, he seems to be correctly conflating Dalinar's experiences with his own. Additionally, Jezrien's emphasized use of "we" in the third quote can be interpreted to refer to himself and Dalinar, but perhaps it could refer to all of the Heralds. However, something's definitely not fitting the picture here. Although Dalinar was under Nergaoul's influence during the actions which led him to hear these voices, Szeth wasn't. The commonality between Dalinar's and Szeth's conditions doesn't seem to be the Unmade, but rather the regret they hold over the slaughter they have committed. To explain this, I bring you this quote from Chapter 90 of Oathbringer: Notice, first of all, that Szeth's case is actually weaker than Dalinar's. Szeth doesn't hear his voices as constantly as Dalinar does, but rather when he closes his eyes or when he thinks about them—they're in the back of his mind, and they don't dominate his thoughts unless he clears his other senses. Secondly, notice that Nale claims Szeth's condition is related to the powers he held. The powers of a Herald. My conclusion may be controversial, and I see room for doubt despite with the evidence I have presented above, but I believe that part of the Herald's madness comes from torture by the Unmade. I still believe that regret plays a large role in the madness experienced by Dalinar, Jezrien, and Szeth. After all, Odium's speech to Dalinar seems to claim that he would escape his regrets and the voices in his mind if he gave in to his control and that of Nergaoul. The Thrill seems to prevent people from feeling remorse. I believe that these voices don't come from the Unmade, but rather from the profound pain of denying their influence and recognizing the horrors they have forced you to do. It is some form of backlash after Connecting with the investure of one of the Unmade. Szeth experienced this same phenomenon because he drew upon powers tied to Jezrien. It's clear that Jezrien regrets something. His voices must represent some group of people, and he explicitly states that it was his fault that he "attracted", "befriended", and "courted" one of the Unmade. But as far as we know, Jezrien isn't some sort of mass murderer, right? At least, I doubt he regrets killing the Voidbringers who threatened humanity. Instead, I turn to Kaladin for this one. As a Windrunner, Kaladin must share some characteristics with Jezrien. The whole ideology of his order is modeled after Jezrien. Now imagine how Kaladin would feel if his "weakness" lead to the return of a Desolation and the deaths of thousands. Thus, I think Jezrien, much like Kaladin, has regrets over the people he failed to save. The screams he hears in his head are the people (perhaps both human and parsh) who died in battle because Jezrien gave in to torture. More specifically, this torture associated with one of the Unmade, who Jezrien could have blamed in the same manner that Dalinar could have blamed Nergaoul for his murders. A have a variant to this theory, which I'm not sure I fully believe, but which think deserves some thought: the Unmade were un-made from the Heralds. They are twisted, warped, and corrupted aspects of the Herald's souls that have been separated throughout their many millennia of torture. This explains why Jezrien says that they "ripped my brain out and made it dance! I watched." This might also explain why Ishar is said to be "whole": there is no Unmade created from him. (Thus 9 Unmade and 10 Heralds) Regardless of whether they were created from the Heralds, I believe that each of the Unmade were bound to a certain Herald, and that they inhabited Braize between the Desolations. This would give them the ability to be directly involved in the torture of the Heralds. I'm also not sure if it makes sense in the first place for the Unmade to have hung around between Desolations, since they would be the lone forces of Odium and would leave themselves vulnerable to the Knights Radiant. That said, there's an excellent counterpoint for this in the Midnight Essence from Dalinar's vision. One of the Knights in the vision says: Dang, now I'm dying to know what she was about to say about Harkaylain. Since that info is missing, the implications are rather ambiguous. It would be a reasonable argument to say that this implies that Re-shephir is being contained on Roshar at the time, but also that Harkaylain is taking the appearance of the Essence as a sign that one of the Heralds has broken and that the Unmade has been allowed to return. Anyway, that little debate aside, my theory is that Ishar is the Herald not associated with one of the Unmade, because of this WoB that Bondsmiths do not have a corollary among the Unmade. This means that, until Taln's breaking in Way of Kings, only eight of the Unmade were on Roshar, and leads to my second theory: that one of the Unmade, specifically Chemoarish, has been missing from Roshar. This probably seems like the wildest claim I've made yet, but it comes from analysis of Hessi's Mythica. While Hessi certainly seems to hit the nail on the head quite often, she admits that she isn't completely confident in her findings. Notably, she was only able to confidently name eight of the nine Unmade. However, she does accurately propose Dai-gonarthis as the ninth Unmade. But as a twist from Sanderson, this doesn't make very much sense. He cannot expect us to doubt that Dai-gonarthis was one of the Unmade, since he has been referenced many other times as the Black Fisher. Sanderson could, instead, be telling us that Dai-gonarthis is more sneaky and less well-known, but this is odd because Hessi was able to tie it to the scouring of Aimia. Instead, I think that this is a misdirection. Hessi worries that "There are many legends and names that I could have misinterpreted, conflating two Unmade into one." Conversely, I believe that she has made the opposite mistake in an attempt to reach the value of 9. Why? Let's take a look at all the information we have on the Unmade outside of Mythica and see how Hessi stacks up: Ashertmarn: the Heart of the Revel, whom we see in action. Hessi's ideas are supported. Ba-Ado-Mishram: mentioned in the epigraph of chapter 80 by one of the Radiants who left behind a gemstone. Supports Hessi's claim that she empowered the Parsh during the False Desolation, and implies that Melishi somehow severed this connection and captured her. Chemoarish: Nothing. This name is never mentioned by any character outside Mythica, although somebody in Bavland swears by the Dustmother (which Hessi claims is a nickname for Chemoarish). This, however, is not a concrete indication that the "Dustmother" is an Unmade. Dai-Gonarthis: mentioned a Death Rattle, which also calls it the Black Fisher. Jezrien also refers to the Black Fisher. Despite Hessi's doubts, it is unequivocally an Unmade. Moelach: first described by Taravangian as the source of the Death Rattles. Jezrien says he can feel Moelach scraping at time. Hessi was spot-on with this one. Nergaoul: also first described by Taravangian. Literally seen in the open and captured by Dalinar at the end of Oathbringer. Completely follows Hessi's description. Re-Shephir: her Midnight Essence is seen in Dalinar's vision, and then she is mentioned in a death rattle as the Midnight Mother. Shallan encounters her in Urithiru. Hessi correctly named her but didn't seem to know much about her characteristics. Sja-Anat: we see her active in Kholinar during Oathbringer, corrupting various spren. Fits Hessi's description. Yelig-nar: Nohadon describes Yelig-nar killing his servants. We see him in Oathbringer inhabiting Aesudan and then Amaram. Hessi was also pretty spot-on about him. After seeing this, doesn't Chemoarish kind of jump out at you? We have seen hard, textual evidence for all eight of the other Unmade, but Chemoarish has never even been mentioned. In addition, we have evidence of all other Unmade besides Yelig-nar being present on Roshar before the onset of the new Desolation: Ashertmarn probably was in Kholinar even before the True Desolation began, Ba-Ad-Mishram is imprisoned, Dai-Gonarthis did something to Aimia, Moelach and Nergaoul have been drifting around, Re-Shephir was in Urithiru, and Hessi seems to have documentation of Sja-Anat's influence on villages. Finally, this is what Hessi herself has to say about Chemoarish: I do not believe that this is a coincidence. Chemoarish may be the real name of one of the Unmade, but the myths ascribed to Chemoarish over the past 4500 years are actually myths about the Nightwatcher. The mish-mashing of Chemoarish lore from before Aherietiam and the lore of the Nightwatcher is what makes her so hard for Hessi to characterize. This makes sense considering the opinion that those in Vorin culture have of the Nightwatcher and the Old Magic being evil and pagan. Instead, I think that one of the Unmade, quite probably Chemoarish, has been trapped on Braize up until the moment that Taln broke under his torture. This explains their absence from the past 4500 years of mythology and lore, during which they should have been roaming free to influence the world. If this theory is true, I'm excited to see what their true nature might be. TL;DR: Jezrien's ravings seem to indicate he was tortured by one of the Unmade, so I think that the Unmade were actually trapped on Braize between desolations. Ishar doesn't have an Unmade counterpart, leading to 9 Unmade. Taln, however, does have a counterpart who has been stuck on Braize for 4500 years. This is why Hessi is only able to pin down 8 Unmade in Mythica, and why we have conspicuously little information about Chemoarish. Edit 2: It just occurred to me that Chemoarish may not have only been mixed together with the Nightwatcher, but with Chanarach, patron herald of the Dustbringers. They're names are kind of similar, and this could be why Chemoarish is called the Dustmother. If this is true, then the figure that Hessi calls Chemoarish is actually born from confusing the mythologies of the Nightwatcher, Chanarach, and the actual Unmade Chemoarish.
  24. 15 points
    When you just found out that RoW is released
  25. 15 points
    Seems we got some confirmation that Shardplate is made of (probably lower) spren....
  26. 14 points
    Whoa guys. The novella is called Dawnshard. It's still a Rysn novella, but wow. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dragonsteel/the-way-of-kings-10th-anniversary-leatherbound-edition/posts/2893136
  27. 14 points
  28. 14 points
    Just when I thought we'd seen the last of the literal Bridge Four, Brandon goes and transforms it into a storming flying ship! I love how ubiquitous Windrunners and Edgedancers are now, and Lift trying to mimic the gracefulness of other Edgedancers is adorable. I have no idea what to make of the Shallan section. I thought a year of having a solid relationship with Adolin and having her brothers around would help her mental state, but she still seems in a not too healthy spot. I can't even fathom what truth her personas was referring, I thought we had learned everything there was to learn about her past. All in all, two fantastic chapters.
  29. 14 points
    go easy on me it's my first cosmeme/crempost
  30. 14 points
    My dislike of Gavilar grew throughout the prologue, but the part about forcing Jasnah to marry Amaram made me feel particularly inclined to stab him for some reason. Also, this line from Gavilar made me think... specifically of what Gavilar said right before he died in the WoK proloque: So, um, how sure are we that Gavilar is staying dead?
  31. 14 points
    Thoughts: *Yaaay, spren POV! *I really liked Syl in this chapter. I normally don’t, so that felt good. *Seems like Kaladin has been assigned to healing duty in Urithiru, and regressed into depression again. *Stormfather is still a useless piece of moldy crem. *Rock gave Amarams plate to his daughter? I assume she has the Blade too then. But why is she cooking if she is a warrior? *Syls first knight was named Relidor. He should have been called Merin for easter egg purposes.
  32. 13 points
    Good day one and all! As promised, here is Tay's take on your questions. We will continue to make our way through Words of Radiance and try to contribute regularly in this long, hard 110 day waiting period between now and when Rhythm of War is finally released. In the meantime, enjoy Comedy Stormlight Archive Wife (as she has been graciously dubbed by the members of this forum) once again. Tay: Okay, so Szeth is going to like, go and try to kill Dalinar, but Dalinar's "godly goodness" is going to win him over! And he's going to fight by Dalinar's side. Me: That's an... interesting take. This has been censored because of the many swears - just know that these were not Cosmere-appropriate when she said them. Tay: Ungh. Sadeas can (verb) my (appendage). He's just going to be stupid and like plotting dumb (excrement) like how to take down Dalinar or take down the King (because I'm pretty sure he still wants to do that). I think he's just going to be plotting and manipulative and stuff behind the scenes. I bet he's going to be really pissy that Dalinar outsmarted him and go away on the battlefield - and he's going to try to take it out on Dalinar in any way he can because he's slimy and underhanded and has a little (appendage). Rock Lobsters Tay: Rock lobsters are a common feature of the... Cosmere? Yes, the Cosmere. I think everybody needs to understand that I have very in-depth knowledge of the - um - flora and fauna of... this... society. Me: Would you like to elaborate some more on the flora and fauna of Roshar? Other than rock lobsters of course, since you know so much about them. Tay: Oh yes I know all about them. Also there are chorls. Me: Yes, chulls. Crab-cows. Tay: Yes. There are plants that shrink in Highstorms. Yes, that's most of them. I guess you could say I'm a botanical expert. Spren Tay: I don't understand spren! This is something I'm still not getting. Spen are giant freakshows that try to terrorise you and kill you like what happen to Jasnah in the prologue and then take you into the Spooky-Spook? But they can also be super cute like Syl and make sassy comments on your shoulder and everyone finds her endearing! OR you can trap them in lamps! I'm not understanding the spren situation and it upsets me. As a result, what kind of spren do I want to see introduced? I don't know! Maybe something that makes sense of what spren are! Kadolin Tay: While I'm really hoping for love at first sight - I don't think that's going to happen. *discussion ensues where I remind her that Kaladin and Adolin have met before in Book 1 on two occasions - Sadeas' warcamp and on the Tower where Kaladin does the Bavarian Fire Drill* Tay: Oh yes! I remember - he sees him on the battlefield and Adolin's all like "who tf this slontze?" Yes. While I want them to fall madly in love with each other at first sight, I don't think that's going to happen. I feel like Adolin's going to be kind of pissy about some low-born guy just swanning in and getting a seat at the table. I think he rates himself a good guy, but he's a judgemental (appendage) really. I also think Adolin's going to be suspicious of Kaladin and his intentions. Why would you just happen to save us - why would you, Slaveboi, risk your own life to save us? Adolin doesn't understand that Kaladin's all magical and stuff and has an honor issue. Me: Everyone on Roshar has an honor issue. Tay: But yeah, he's going to be super suspicious of Kaladin. And then maybe if they can get past that, they can be homies. But that's Adolin's thing to get over, not Kaladin.
  33. 13 points
  34. 13 points
    Ok, so I realize that I am submitting this way early, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to tomorrow, so here it is! Good luck, @Lunamor, @Fezzik, and @Matrim's Dice!!! May the best roast win!
  35. 13 points
    Is it just me or does it feel like Syl has some form on ADD/ADHD? I wonder if that is a character trait or something which came from her experiences?
  36. 12 points
    I wonder if the epigraphs for one of the parts will be from jasnah's interview of the heralds
  37. 12 points
    The synopsis changed and this changes everything!!! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0765326388/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  38. 12 points
    Here's a discussion thread on RoW Prologue and Chapter 1. You can read them here: https://www.tor.com/2020/07/23/read-rhythm-of-war-by-brandon-sanderson-prologue-and-chapter-one/ A new chapter (or two) will go live every Tuesday at 9am Eastern.
  39. 12 points
    I pictured it like: Lyn has a crush on their tough and mysterious leader. Syl: She has a crush on you, ask her out. Kaladin: No. Test: Just do it, son. Kaladin: Fine. Lyn, meet me for dinner. Lyn: Uh, yes sir? Then she finds out his mysteriousness is just depression and total focus on the war and his men, he's unable to be honest and open up to her, they never quite leave the subordinate/commander dynamic, so she breaks up with him. Anyway, Kalalyn happening and ending in two sentences definitely got a chuckle out of me. And I like the idea of Skar and Lyn @Harbour! Hopefully still a possibility!
  40. 12 points
    Well repeatedly severing a Radiant's spine as a way to incapacitate them is a really smart tactic that I hadn't considered before, also really gruesome to think about. Now, that being said I wonder if there is some sort of protective barrier that's totally not made of lesser spren, can prevent those sorts attacks, and totally isn't going to happen in this book *cough* *cough*. But in all seriousness the fact that the fused are using that tactic now is a pretty strong indicator that Living Shardplate is happening this book.
  41. 12 points
    Oh, wow, that is a big addition. How'd you manage to catch that? Quoted below, for those too lazy to click the link: That has some big clues for the character groupings, which I think I'll take to the character grouping thread.
  42. 12 points
    ...until you find out it's the name of a chicken "We came to Aimia, through all, through all of that... To find a Dawnshard... And it's just this?" Rysn sputtered. "Don't be so disappointed," the scarred Thaylen replied calmly. "He's not a Dawnshard, just simply Dawnshard, and he's a good widdle chick-chick, isn't he? Oh yes, he is." He stroked the chicken's head, which cooed softly. "Besides, Dawnshard's actually harder to find on Roshar than what you are looking for. He's the only one of his kind here, but the Dawnshards that came here in the days before Heralds, ah, that is a different story... As well you would know, Sleepless One."
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  45. 12 points
    We got the name of either Truthwatcher or Stoneward spren: peakspren.
  46. 11 points
  47. 11 points
    I find this to be very interesting. The way I understand it, there is one last Windspren willing to bond, but can't do so. This seems to indicate that the potential Radiant chosen by this spren is the one unwilling (or unable) to bond. What seems most likely to me is that it's Rock. The fact that he is holding something back from Bridge Four, combined with the fact that he has to deal with tremendous gulit would probably make it hard for him to form a bond. Logic tells me Rock is the best choice (as far as we know right now). But I actually would want it to be Rlain. He has been teased all throughout Oathbringer as a potential Radiant but hat to be kept in the Background in order for Venli to shine. Now we could get to see a truly epic arc for him, hopefully including a meeting with Venli (maybe even a rescue mission to get her to Urithiru?). Considering that the Listeners and Singers are becoming more and more central as the story progresses, seeing more of them become Radiant sooner rather than later would be amazing.
  48. 11 points
    Right now his choices are A) light eyes who would kill him if he stepped out of line and Fused who would kill him if he stepped out of line. A dead surgeon can't help anyone. Ergo, being pragmatic and helping in the way he can given his circumstances doesn't seem cowardly to me. It's called choosing your battles. There isn't some freedom fighting cause that is going to liberate the dark eyes from their oppressors, not in Alethkar and certainly not in Hearthstone. So what is he would he be fighting for exactly? The right to have his son sent off to war to die for someone else's wealth? Why would he want to fight to protect the status quo of the light eyes when it did so much harm and this new situation isn't worse? So he chooses to continue to save lives the way he knows how. I don't really think there is a wrong way to read a character, but it doesn't seem that you are at all trying to understand his situation or perspective. There is a lot of nuance to the conversation of pacifism vs militancy, it certainly isn't black and white. For some, dominance is a hill they are willing to die on. The status quo is the hill they'll die on. Lirin is not one of them.
  49. 11 points
    I mean - think about things objectively. Does it matter who rules? It might, if one side or the other mistreats their people. But it might not. I don't get the sense from chapters released so far that the humans of Hearthstone are suffering under the singers' rule. It seems like life would have been better for the Herdazians if they had simply surrendered and lived under the rule of the singers. A whole lot less people would have been killed. The only cost is the loss of a few cultural traditions. It's one thing if they had a reasonable chance of winning the war, but they didn't. And that's what Lirin points out. For some people, fighting and death and destruction is good for its own sake. But I don't think that's an objective truth, or even a commonly held opinion in today's world. There's a difference between being a pacificist and wanting to fight only when it's meaningful. Personally, I would have said the Herdazians should have either submitted or fled to Urithiru where they could join the Radiants and fight in meaningful battles.
  50. 11 points
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