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  1. From the album: Other Cosmere Art

    Featuring Khriss, Kelsier, Hoid, Shallan, Nazh & Shai. So here is a bunch of Cosmere nerds I imagine would love to attend DS Con XD
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  2. Wow. I totally disappeared for like a week, didn't I? Whelp. Anyway, some things: 1. I got my costume for Ballet! My class is being Egyptian gods/goddesses and the costume is gold and sparkly. Like, really really sparkly. (Not sure if it's a good or bad thing. It doesn't seem that sparkly in the picture, but you should've seen ballet studio when we tried them on- the floor was covered in glitter ) 2. I made biscuits in Home Ec and they are soooooo good. This is the recipe~ There's also a video my teacher made on Youtube on these. [link] (Oh yeah- did I mention my teacher is a Youtuber? She makes how-to videos on Youtube because she found that most kids these days learn best from watching videos. It's pretty cool.) 3. Turns out playing volleyball with a giant beach ball is exhausting! 4. All the songs that have been stuck in my head for the past week (save it one song) have been from the new Disney movie, Encanto. And I can't really say I'm frustrated about it.
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  3. This is a thing the site is generating and nothing is compromised. We did change a few settings last night, though I didn't quite expect it to appear to everyone like this. It is currently improperly set up, as we would need to provide a predetermined list of questions that you could select from the drop-down menu. Since we didn't, they are just... blank. Yay. My apologies for the confusion. I've disabled the security questions for now. I do recommend enabling Two-Factor Authentication, though! That is ultimately much more secure than security questions, and I highly recommend it.
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  4. Ok, so after like forever, I decided to sit down and finish Cytonic. I honestly- wow, just, wow
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  5. Three words: Code Name Verity SO GOOD
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  6. So. I'm running a Quick Fix in Sanderson Elimination. It's a chaos game. I would really like it if a bunch of people came to play...
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  7. For my time zone, its my birthday in an hour and 15 minutes, so it might be the 24th over there xD Anyway, have another lil birb Gonna be a bit of a break between now and the next piece of art, I’m working on a kind of complex drawing project… you’ll see
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  8. He was still healing, but slowly. At Elantris, the Elantrians were instantly healed of all their injuries, including the ones in the flames. The only record of an Elantrian's death that we know of, as far as I know, was Galladon's father, and he died from natural causes, and was also depressed. Considering this WoB, I think Elantrians are immortal.
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  9. Sooooooooooo I'm still on vacation, but i couldn't resist the pull of the shard for more than five days, it seems Here are some Syl doodles i made while re-listening to RoW in the car: (Sry about the lightning :<)
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  10. Y’all ain’t ready for this
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  11. some awesome things Kelsier: I dare you to kiss the next person who walks into this room. Elend: Screw that, I’m not kissing any of you. *Vin walks in* Elend: Fine, I’ll do it. Rules are rules you know. Adolin: I am strong! I beat Shallan at arm wrestling! Kaladin: Anyone can beat Shallan at arm wrestling! Shallan: Hey- Lightsong: Are they stupid? Vivenna: Yes, but they prefer to be called Siri. Nightblood: I don't know, it's not my cup of tea. Szeth: Well then who's is it? Nightblood, staring at a cup of tea: I don't know! Navani: Trouble at 2 o'clock! Dalinar: *looks down at their watch* Dalinar: Now, how do you know that? Dalinar: Watcha doin? Navani: Stealing my neighbour’s cat. Dalinar: Scandalous. Dalinar: Can I help? Dalinar: And then they ran into my knife. They ran into my knife ten times. Navani: You mean you stabbed them? Dalinar: They ran into my knife.
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  12. Hi guys!! I want you to know that (A) this is the VERY first time I've watched y'all on youtube, and it feels like NONE of your faces match your voices in my mind. And (B) I particularly appreciated your discussion of Jasnah's "lunacy", and the point you brought up about schizophrenia. Thank you for mentioning it, Grey. Some thoughts below: Notes/Thoughts on Jasnah's "Lunacy" (Potential Psychosis / Schizophrenia) I do think it would be extremely interesting (albeit cruel) for Jasnah to end up schizophrenic, since her mind/perception is what she values most beyond anything — but I think this would be a huge undertaking for Brandon. Writing in the POV of a character whose schizophrenia is worsening (which is what would happen as she ages) would presumably be very challenging for a man who hasn't experienced it. I also wonder if this would take away from Taravangian's story slightly; since a huge motivating factor for him was trying to "get back" to "smarter" days again, when he could better trust the inner workings of his mind. All of this said... this article made me think it could indeed be childhood psychosis/schizophrenia, maybe. I didn't know that flat affect was a symptom in children with schizophrenia; this might fit with Navani's quote to Dalinar about how different/unusual Jasnah seemed as a preteen. Thematically, it would also make sense to try an tie a mental illness in with Jasnah, since it seems like a very common theme in his Stormlight works. [But does everyone need to have a defined mental illness, I wonder?] Lastly... if the lunacy was caused by environmental/outside factors... My bet is on some Unmade/Splinter nonsense, or having started a proto bond with a spren. Thoughts on Jasnah/Hoid Evgeni perfectly summed up the icky feeling about Jasnah/Hood; it feels incredibly transactional. He gives her secrets, she gives him sex, and neither of them are happy. The only benefit of this pairing = the potential for a messy breakup and some INTERESTING "evil ex" dynamic stuff in the future! Shannon said it well too: Are we supposed to believe Jasnah doesn't know how to define boundaries? Are we supposed to believe Hoid, who's like 10,000 years old, doesn't give a crem about Jasnah's feelings/comfortability in these sexual situations? I'd have rather seen Jasnah explore her sexuality (or lack thereof) and/or romantic feelings with almost anyone else. Jasnah/Kriss sounds like a wonderful ship. I also kinda like the idea of Jasnah/Radiant. P.S. — @FeatherWriter: You convinced me to try the Chestnut Praline latte an hour ago! IT'S AMAZING.
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  13. Over the last six months or so I've been working on a creating a physical 3D model of the continent of Roshar. It's still a work in progress, but I have some actual physical products to show for it as of recently. My end goal is to make the entire map out of wood and project animations like Highstorms onto it. So far, I've made a prototype map out of foam using a CNC router. And I have used a projector with it to project the map of Roshar onto the foam: The reason I post this is I would like some feedback. Eventually I want to do something with this similar to the interactive timeline of Roshar the staff put together, but in three dimensions. Like I mentioned, I would also like to add the Highstorms to the animation, so you can see how they interact with the geography and mountains of the map. Is there anything else I should add? Change? Improve? I have a time limit, but I'm curious to see what people think. Finally, here's the 3D digital model I used for this in case anyone wants it for a project of their own. Feel free to use it, though it is fairly rough, so the geography isn't exactly perfect and the topography is complete guesswork.
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  14. It's really less "magic" and more "stupid fake science", which is usually not my wheelhouse, but I've had fun with it so far! Anyways, here it is, tell me what you guys think! The "Magic System" is basically a weird form of science in this setting, that all the technology is based on. Around 200 years ago, these magic crystals were discovered to have the ability to filter the energy inside of them to produce stuff depending on the color (Red = Fire, Yellow = Light), etc. These crystals are called "Chromine" and this energy is called "Chromatic Energy" By distilling raw Chromatic Energy, you can filter it between crystals to combine their effects (Red + Yellow = Lightning/Electricity), and laying out crystals in certain ways within a "circuit" can produce new, more complex effects (laying out multiple Red Chromine crystals in the right circuit pattern can produce ambient heat instead of actual fire). The vague domains associated with each crystal are: Red - Fire Orange - Earth Yellow - Light Green - Life Blue - Water I want to have Purple Chromine that somehow lets you have like, radio and internet but I'm not sure what domain to give it. Additionally, Green Chromine also mostly creates or controls like, tissues. Stuff like disease prevention and immunization is mostly outside of its wheelhouse and normal medicine like vaccines still have to exist. Additionally, raw Chromatic Energy has some interesting properties. Notably, sometimes it leaks out of impure crystals and, if not contained properly, can seep into the environment. If this happens enough times, the environment can warp, creating weird fantasy biomes, like a rainbow forest filled with giant crystals, or a city where it's always night and all the animals are bioluminescent.
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  15. Day Eight: Jaists Are Our Specialty The man, still half-drunk, walked towards the Spiked’s hidden position, flanked by a pair of wary town guards. The servants of Ruin glanced at each other, a third - Var, who was imprisoned and powerless now - muttering behind them in his cell. “This time, we will do it together,” the first said, drawing the hood over his face. “I was about to say that,” the other remarked, hand going to his side. He drew a long spike from his sleeve. The drunkard paid no mind, turning a backflip and giggling relentlessly. “Ha ha…prazche…prayze the Ja,” he continued muttering. The guards, however, seeing the spike, halted. There was a brief pause, and Var, still in the cell behind him, hissed at his compatriots, “Get help! You’re no match for him, he’s a Jaist.” The hooded Spiked gave a wide smile. “Comrade Var, Jaists are our specialty.” He turned to the other. “Tell the guard to get that man to an infirmary, he’s delusional.” Zebra finally reached the end of the alleyway, and the guards recovered their nerve, advancing as well and casting doubtful glances back towards Var. Zebra spoke. “Hehehe…goive me those Shpikesh yer’ve gotted…don wanna mek a mess of things in frunt of Dyrink's inn.” The Spiked ignored him, the hooded one speaking plainly. “You won’t get away this time, Lurcher.” He drew and pushed forward, while the drunkard continued to giggle, knocking away the attempted stab with his cane. The guards, however, seemed confused, going straight for Var in the cell, who was still muttering. Zebra looked at the one-on-two he faced and still smiled. “I’ve been looking forward to this.” The second Spiked pulled back his sleeve, revealing new steel spikes in his arm. “My powers have doubled since the last time we met, Jaist.” “Good,” he chuckled, voice fully clear of alcohol. He drew himself up to full height. “Twice the metal, double the Lurching.” He pulled out a shield, covering his face and torso, and Pulled on the guards’ coin pouches, who were now standing behind the Spiked and talking to Var, who still was whispering quietly behind the bars. The coins flew out, lacerating the Spiked, who ducked and fled down the alleyways with curses on their lips. Quartz Zebra was attacked, but survived! Day 8 has begun! It will end in just over 47 hours at 8:00 PM EST on Wednesday 26 January. PMs are open. Good luck! Praise the Ja! Praise Warmmha! Player List . Amber Vulture Vanilla Villager 2. Amethyst Scorpion - Sidor, newly resigned Hazekiller (Guardsman) 3. Azure Mouse 4. Charcoal Hyena Spiked Mistborn 5. Chartreuse Penguin - Aethex (Jester) 6. Coral Swan - Su (Jaist) Village Mistborn 7. Emerald Falcon Village Lurcher 8. Fuchsia Ostrich - Freddie (Glutton) 9. Ivory Dragonfly (Unlucky) (Replaced) 10. Magenta Albatross (Past Lives) 11. Mauve Crocodile (Gambler) Vanilla Villager 12. Melon Dingo - Scimon Tlag (Merchant) 13. Mint Heron - Tivend Elons (Casanova) Village Smoker 14. Onyx Flamingo (Gossip/Casanova) 15. Opal Lion Vanilla Villager 16. Oxblood Beagle Spiked Coinshot 17. Pearl Chameleon - Var (Two-Faced) Spiked 18. Plum Rhinoceros (Prophet-ish) 19. Quartz Zebra (Drunk/Jaist) 20. Saffron Iguana (Helpful Heckler) Village Soother 21. Salmon Meerkat - Kellehrt, local farmer and possible madman Village Tineye 22. Sapphire Elephant 23. Scarlet Octopus (Neat, Extremist Priest) Village Tineye 24. Sunburst Toucan Village Thug 25. Turquoise Gorilla (Game Show Host) Spiked 26. Violet Axolotl - Dyring (Neat Innkeeper)
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  16. I did exactly that. Edit: @Chaos, please consider it a mark of my high esteem that since everything else your team does for the website is so amazingly polished, I immediately worried in the one instance it wasn't that something was horribly wrong.
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  17. Oh they would. I'll add the WoB later but if Dalinar we're to die and someone else bonded the Stormfather their surges might behave differently than Dalinar's
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  18. Would you still feel this way when you realised whose fault it is that Lin Davar turned "evil"? As Pattern points out in WoR, Shallan doesn't need to use Soulcasting to enact change in people, she just needs to be "truth and lies," or in other words, herself. What happened to Shallan's mother and her "lover," was horrific, but it changed Lin for the worse because he chose to protect Shallan. Tell us, Frustration, is the act of protecting a child from something horrific the action of an evil person? Then Lin realises what an untenable position he's in, everyone believes he's both a cuckold and a murderer. No-one supports him in anything he does, and he ends up involved with the Ghostbloods. Even to the point where his family have turned against him, and the only one of them that offers him even token support is the one person he should be blaming for all the troubles. And so, he changes. He becomes moodier, angrier, more prone to violent outbursts, until, as Shallan does so well, the lie becomes truth.
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  19. What would allow us to presume that he was aware of all his abilities? He had not been given an introduction or a handbook.
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  20. Slightly dramatized version of a recent and true story. Me: Pizza: Me: *taking out a pizza from the oven in peace* Pizza: Do you know what I want to do? Me: No, bad pizza! Pizza: I want to fall onto the bottom of the oven! Pizza: *starts sliding* Me: *reaches for pizza* Pizza: Haha, can't catch me! I'm too fast! Pizza: *starts sliding faster* Me: NO. STOP. BAD PIZZA! Me: *grabs pizza* Pizza: *spins out of my oven mitt* Pizza: Hehehe! Me: Stop it< you stoopid pizza! Me: *finally gets the pizza under control* Pizza: Awwwww, you big meanie. Pizza: *pouts* Me: *takes extra pleasure in cutting this pizza up* Anyway, how are y'all doing.
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  21. Shallan: I am a responsible adult! Adolin: *raises brow* Shallan: I am an adult. Kaladin: No, this is not a mess. You know what I consider a mess? Syl: Your life? Kaladin: I- well yes, but- Venli: HYDRATE OR DIE-DRATE! Venli: *aggressively throws water bottles* Rlain: Uh... what's up with them? Eshonai: They're trying to yell mental health and wellbeing into us. Venli: I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU! Demid, crying: It's working. Venli: Why is Eshonai crying on the floor? Demid: They took one of those 'what person are you?' quizzes. Venli: And? Demid: They got Rlain. Teft: For self defense reasons, I'm going to pretend to be a burglar and you guys have to act wisely. Kaladin, Adolin, & Shallan: Okay. Teft: If you don't want to die, give me all your money. Kaladin: Bold of you to a**ume I have money. Adolin: Bold of you to a**ume I don't want to die. Shallan: Bold of you to a**ume I can die. Teft: What’s up with Kaladin? They’ve been laying on the floor for like….an hour now? Adolin: They're just a little overwhelmed. Teft: Why? Adolin: Shallan smiled at them. Veil: Bet you can’t eat 15 crayons! Shallan: Bet you I can! Radiant: *sips coffee, checks to make sure 911 is still on speed dial, and goes back to reading the paper*
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  22. Our preview show with Danielle and Marvin is back, this time talking about The Lost Metal, the fourth Mistborn Era 2 novel that comes out November 15th, 2022! Preview chapters have not begun yet, and we don't know when they will, but we do have an extremely spicy blurb/synopsis for the book, and that's what we're talking about today! Link to the blurb: https://www.tor.com/2021/12/06/book-announcements-the-lost-metal-a-mistborn-novel-from-brandon-sanderson/ A draft of Lost Metal's prologue is out (and apparently Brandon read chapters 1 and 2 at the November Mini-Con, but we don't have the audio for this yet), and you can read the prologue here: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/472/#e14863 The sweet Marasi thumbnail is by Dan Watson and will be in the Alloy leatherbound: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/q9Q0Gn The Waxillium background is also by Dan Watson and will be in the leatherbounds (and animated with permission by Marvin): https://www.instagram.com/p/CLH1UFYj0Vw/ If you like our content, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/17thshard For discussion, theories, games, and news, come to https://www.17thshard.com Come talk with us and the community on the 17th Shard Discord: https://discord.gg/17thshard Want to learn more about the cosmere and more? The Coppermind Wiki is where it's at: https://coppermind.net Read all Words of Brandon on Arcanum: https://wob.coppermind.net Subscribe to Shardcast: http://feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:102123174/sounds.rss Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
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  24. Overall: The opening was a little rough for me to get into, but I’m not sure how much of that was just not being used to some of the sci-fi tropes/concepts. I really like Al-, and can sympathize with his desire for routine (though his second scene had some things that seemed slightly inconsistent, which I called out below). The “observing beings” pov was also really intriguing, and makes me really interested to figure out what’s going on there. J’s pov was not quite as engaging for me, but it also wasn’t kicking me out of the chapter either. I very rarely just pick up a book without having someone recommend it these days (seems like the 24 hours in a day gets shorter and shorter every year), but if I was back at a stage of life when I had the time for such things, I would keep reading. At least for a few more chapters, to see what’s up with our planet beings. But I’d probably want something in those chapters to really grab me, since I don’t latch on to sci-fi as quickly as I do fantasy. Pg 4: The opening sentence feels a little wordy to me, and the “one of many” is non-specific enough to keep me from feeling grounded. “from the same source” : made by the same manufacturers? From the same planet? From the same star system? “this star”: the one of many, I assume? If it’s the star they’re aiming for, I think it might be worth naming it in line one. “ten times before” : meaning they’ve come to this star ten times before? I’d like a better sense of whether this is unusual or a routine thing. Ten times over what stretch of time? *also, side note, I have no idea how many of these things are more a result of me not reading much space-based sci-fi. Readers who are more used to it might not have the same grounding issues. I’m fine by the end of the first page.* Pg 5: This is all it takes for me to like Ag- I’m not quite sure why the thought of keeping the name has this reaction. I could see it coming after the realization that the planet might be inhabitable, but it seems like an odd jump here. Is “sus-ani” something most sci-fi readers would get right away? My immediate thought was to read it as a place, and it took a few extra seconds to figure out why it wasn’t capitalized. But again, might just be my lack of familiarity with the genre. Pg 6: almost-mythical* ? my brain wants to put a hyphen there, but that could just be me. I definitely sympathize with Al’s desire for routine. Pg 7: “just as uninhabitable as…” this being mentioned in paragraphs 2 and 4 on this page with really similar phrasing feels a bit repetitive. Especially since we know enough about what Al- wants to be paying attention to relevant details, and to not be hugely surprised when S. No- says it is habitable. Because story. I like the note of them having a bet on it. A small but very relatable detail. I don’t always like when there are pov-shifts mid-chapter, because I usually prefer clearer breaks, but I didn’t mind this one. I almost think the passive-voice in the first sentence helps with that for me? It makes it far clearer that we’re somewhere else than if we had some sort of “the observing bodies observed the encroaching lifeform…” opening. Pg 8: “more efficient…than direct research” as someone who has spent a lot of time contrasting the pros and cons of calculating the exact way to do something vs. “I don’t know. Try it and hope it doesn’t explode” I really appreciate this line. Yeah. I think the passive voice and sense of distance/non-specificity through here does a really good job of conveying that we’re in the head of some consciousness that doesn’t process things the same way most people do without being incomprehensible. 10 points to you. I’d say the one risk with that is that if there are details we are meant to hang on to, you’ll want to make sure those are called out a little more clearly, because the language definitely encourages an “I don’t entirely get what that’s saying, but that’s probably fine” feeling for me while reading. I also really like the description of trying to process the letters. Pg 9: “Let go of“ I guess “dropped” doesn’t quite make sense, but “nearly let go” feels funny to me. Dropping something feels like it has stakes because it could fall and break, but “nearly let go” conveys that he’s startled, but not really in a way that makes me concerned the way “dropped” would. I’m not sure if there would be a good equivalent to use. Also, something about Al’s determination to follow protocols made me think he wasn’t the jumpy sort, so this doesn’t quite mesh with my idea of him from before. Irritation that someone would break their routine to be right behind him when they should be somewhere else, sure. But needless rattling of things? “m—x” ? I assume this is some sort of term of respect, but don’t have a good indication of what it is indicating. Pg 10: I’d been about to mention that he seems a little less put together through here than I would have expected from the character introduced at the beginning. Then I got to where he mentions his nerves are fraying. I don’t know if it would help for that to come in a little earlier to get an idea of the reason for the shift in character? It hits me as a pretty big shift from competent and rational and set in routine and protocol to being jumpy and hesitant and uncertain (“I…I’m not sure…” doesn’t fit the protocol-obsessed Al- from the start in my head) I’m pretty sure the end of the second to last paragraph in this scene is word for word what we had back in the second or third page of the chapter. Can cut “her eyes” in the opening line of the next scene. The second half of the second sentence feels a little clunky to me. Also, “vision” gets a little repetitive in this paragraph. Pg 11: “Admin B grumbled.” This is one of the things I probably overthink in my own writing, which made it jump out, but if we’re in her pov, is she likely to call herself this instead of just using her name? Having the handler call her Admin B above would work if it’s just to introduce the full name/title. My first thought was that Admin B was another person standing here. Nice contrast between J and Al-‘s thoughts on floatiness Pg 13: Her comments on not knowing much about astronomy make me wonder what qualifications she has to be making these decisions… wouldn’t that be important? I also don’t have any sense of her apparent age either. Especially since swapping between “J-“ and “Admin B-“ give pretty different perceptions of the character. It was fun to finally read some of your writing after all this time, and I really enjoyed it . Thanks for sharing!
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  25. In general, and as far as we know: Yes, if you have the ability to Burn the metal, and the sample you Burn is not blocked by Identity in some way, you should be able to Burn it and get the burst of the Feruchemical Energy. Without the corresponding Feruchemical Ability you would not be able to ReStore that energy into a metalmind for later or for large bursts, so there would be limits. But if the initial metalmind is UnKeyed or Keyed to you (via using hemalurgy or an unSealed Metalmind, etc) I do believe you could Allomantically burn it, flare it, etc. and release Feruchemical effects at allomantic rates until you burned up the Charged sample.
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  26. Venli's case is different because she has a full-on voidspren which makes her capable of using Voidlight. Her Radiant spren, Timbre, is a perfectly normal lightspren. Are Enlightened spren a type of voidspren? I'm not sure, but I don't think so.
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  27. A quote from someone who wasn't killed before being able to grow. Yes. Lin is evil. He did objectively wrong things. But the situation he was in, with influence from the unmade, everyone who should have supported him hating him, makes him more sympathetic than someone who did the same things just because he was always an obsessive psychopath. If Lin had killed his wife, would he be a worse person? Yes.
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  28. I'm basically the nicest guy I know, so don't lump me in with that other guy. I mean, don't lump me in with that other guy, please.
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  29. *walks in* *smacks WoB* *leaves*
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  30. Yah, and people can be pretty obsessive on their fandom. The world fan literally comes from "fanatic" and
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  31. Maybe it’s because I live in the United States, but I don’t find the idea of being a non-native inhabitant of someplace shocking. Then again I am also quite aware that my country has a *long* way to go to live up to it’s ideals and that our founders weren’t perfect but just people doing the best they can.
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  32. What you care or don't care about has nothing at all to do with the point I made. So, why do you view Lin Davar as being so different from the heroes in those movies that butcher loads of people? And you seem to forget that Lin's choice was made right then and there, in the room, with the dead mother and "lover." Before Shallan broke her bond to Testament. Also, I'd point out that she Transformed Lin, like the Surges say she can, so she did not force him to do anything. Finally, the point I'd make about Testament is that we've ONLY seen Shallan's PoV for those parts of her life, and she's an unreliable witness because she literally has parts of herself locked away from her own mind.
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  33. If you want a beta read on revision, them dm me. I'm not sure how quick I'll be but I'm happy to read the previous chapters to get caught up and give you feedback on them.
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  34. The point I'm making isn't about removing their choices, it's about changing someone so the choices they make are not the ones they normally would. Lin Davar was a man who would rather be thought of as a murderer, rather than let someone he loves, who committed the crime in question, suffer for it. Where's the evil here? His choice in this matter is about as far from evil as he can get. This is the choice that Shallan inspired, starting Lin down the road to becoming the murderer in truth. How many movies are there about someone's family being killed, so the main protagonist goes a bit beserk and murders a bunch of people? How many of those movies depict the protagonist as evil? Why is Lin Davar so different to them? He does some terrible things, all born out of a place of love, just like those "heroes" in the movies.
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  35. I’ll have to check out the Kenobi book sometime. I also liked them in the Mandalorian too.
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  36. Well, I believe that most of the radiants were killed shortly after they broke their oaths. And it's not like they kept using their dead spren as shardblades.
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  37. Yeah, i think so too. Brandon has stated that in the future, we are going to be seeing "a lot" more of the Venli Willshapers and not as much of the regular ones. I bet the same might go for some other orders too. RoW spoilers?
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  38. It could be that. It could also be that they act with honor, and are thus less affected by Odium's intent.
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  39. Speaking of the honor system, I wonder if the reason why, on average, Heavenly Ones are more mentally sane than the other types of Fused is because their code of combat leads to them dying less, and thus needing to reincarnate less often. Which would imply that this is quite an old tradition, and they've fought like this in past Desolations too.
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  40. There is one big issue with using Identity for this: it wouldn't work in the case of independent development. If two people, separately from each other, invent the same thing (like for example how Newton and Leibniz both came about calculus) they can both key it to their Identity and both have a legitimate claim of being original, if not a legitimate claim of being the first to get there. And thinking back on the speech Hoid gave in SA about timing as (arguably) the thing which people value the most, this is a nuance that is highly relevant.
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  41. I'm not sure if Ishar would make Syl human, but I did find something in Words of Radiance that got me thinking. In WoR Kaladin keeps mentioning that he's afraid that the lighteyes could somehow take away his powers / connection with Syl. He recognizes the irrationality and there is of course the whole issue of whether he would hold to his oaths, but it made me wonder whether or not this could be foreshadowing of Ishar stealing Kaladin's connection with Syl, which could of course be related to him making Syl human.
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  42. Because you say that Lin Davar is evil, and seem to be saying that there is no nuance in his story at all.
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  43. I would like to pop into this discussion because I think there is a good chance that lightning is a voidish form of division rather than illumination. Because perception is key. The surges are based on the perception of the people of Roshar. Infact, since we think of 4 fundamental forces, Brandon has said that we would have only 4 surges and electromagnetism would be one of them The only way I see it illumination creating lightning is if the lightweaver in question deeply understands the physics and can visualise lightning as the result of waveforms. But Roshar doesn't have that kind of knowledge yet. They are still in the Renaissance era. But lightning being an application of division is more plausible for people who live in the middle ages. There is a strong connection between flames and division (flamespren and ashspren). Lightning was mainly known for setting trees on fire. In many cultures, lightning is just an extension of fire. Even in ATLA. Another speculation in favor of this is the fact that they are called skybreakers. skybreakers have division and also fly in the air. Lightning usually symbolises god's judgement on the wicked( similar to the floods). Skybreakers are also interested in justice. It's not airtight, but i think it's more likely to be division than illumination
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  44. Anyone can justify anything. Hitler justified his concentration camps. By putting the blame on 'undesirable peoples', he was able to take a nation who had just lost a world war, and got (potentially unjustly) footed with the bill for the entire thing, and nearly conquered the world with them. If he had succeeded in conquering the world, the history books would say his use of the Concentration Camps to unify his people was 'for the greater good', in that it helped unify a people into becoming dominant. Jack the Ripper killed prostitutes. Supposedly, in his mind, he was doing the world a favor by getting rid of the cancer that needs to be cut out of society. Where do you draw the line? If Jasnah was justified in what she did, then where is the line? The argument is that he Law wasn't working, at least not in that area, so she took it into her own hands. These were Rapists and Murderers. They deserved their fate. Nale is killing innocent people. Every person on the planet has committed some kind of crime. He spends all his time hunting down whatever it is the people he wants to kill has done so he can legally kill them. If someone does even the slightest thing that technically would warrant death, he kills them. And he feels he is perfectly justified. He is ridding the world of that which could destroy it. Cutting out the cancer. Just like Jack the Ripper. Or Hitler. So Jasnah goes after known criminals. Makes sure they are going to attack before killing them. That's a very short step away from Nale. Or Jack the Ripper. The reason we have Laws in the first place is to protect the Innocent. In America at least, you have to be proven guilty. The reason for that is to protect the Innocent people as much as possible from a false accusation. You get a trial. You get to present your evidence. If you're found guilty, you face your punishment, but it's fair. Or it's supposed to be. The reason for this is simple: If one person is able to simply kill someone they think is guilty, then you wind up with Nale, Hitler and Jack the Ripper. People doing what they thought was for the good of humanity, killing those who are causing the world to be destroyed. Cutting out the infection. To be entirely honest, Jasnah shouldn't have gone after the Thugs. She should have gone after the Constables. People don't just become Thugs. They are often pushed into it. But corrupt constables choose to be that way. They are the reason the ally was a cesspit. If they were taken care of, and new Constables who would uphold the law were put in place, then the area would become safe. The problem isn't the Darkeyes pushed to robbing people. It's in the corrupt Lighteyes who are facilitating it. But instead, Jasnah went after the men. She killed a few thugs. But others will take their place. So she didn't really do anything but kill a few people. She wasn't trying to fix the problem. She wanted to vent her frustration on men who abuse women. I think that's Jasnah's thing. She hates men who abuse women, and that vents into men in general. She talks a lot about wanting to help Terevangian's people, but I don't believe her. I think she just wanted to kill these men. And she knew they'd attack her if she flaunted her wealth. She didn't bother learning who these men were. She didn't bother seeing if any could be redeemed. Shallan took an entire band of men who'd likely murdered just as many as these thugs and turned them into, if not respectable, at least more honorable men. Jasnah just killed them. Like tossing trash, feeling like she'd done the right thing. Like these men were just the cancer that needed to be cut out of society.
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  45. Oathbringer and Warbreaker, kind of
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  46. You called, I came. Words of Radiance through to basically any Stormlight book after WoK excluding Dawnshard.
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  47. No, no, the brain tells the heart to beat for ten loops (whole ventricular convulsions) in a row by sending out delayed nervous messages to the SAN pacemaker cells... basically, it receives one delayed message every beat, but the brain sends them in batches of ten. To maximise effectiveness, the brain has about 5 wholes batches waiting in the wings, and when it dies, all five are released in periods. 50 heart beats lasts the heart another 45 seconds.
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