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  1. someone please help I keep making memes and I can’t stop Stormlight spoilers (I can’t remember which book this reveal is from, so proceed with caution) Secret History Spoilers Well of Ascension Spoilers
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  2. Dawnshard is HERE, and over on the Coppermind Wiki we are in crunch mode! The novella dropped at the end of last week, but only for those who backed the Way of Kings 10th Anniversary Kickstarter--so we have held off on allowing Dawnshard spoilers in the wiki until it is more widely available. That ends today, as most major ebook retailers now offer the book. Today, November 10th, a mere seven days before Rhythm of War arrives! Before the tidal wave of new Rhythm of War content engulfs us next week we are going to be doing everything we can to get Coppermind updated for Dawnshard, and we need your help! Veteran editors and newbies are all appreciated! Thankfully, a large amount of Dawnshard work is really fairly simple! Though there's certainly a few articles that will require more extensive effort, we've got a long list of newly-created, bite-sized articles to fill in and many existing articles that only need a few small additions! If you've never had the satisfaction of updating a Coppermind article to completion, you've missed out. And we've got a whole buffet of them just waiting for you! You're going to feel like Chiri-Chiri in the Thaylen Gemstone Reserve! Here's the plan: We're kicking off a 7-Day Dawnshard Blitz, in which we'll be trying to knock out as many updates as possible. That will start today, Tuesday November 10th and conclude at the end of Monday November 16th, right before the Rhythm of War release at midnight EST. You can find the list of objectives here. Put your username in the "Claimbed By" column to claim it. We ask that people only claim one article at a time! When you're finished make a note in the "Complete?" column and move on to another objective! Each objective has been assigned a point value based on how difficult we feel it will be. The goal for each article is to bring it fully to completion. Complete the objective and you get the full point value; partial credit will earn you one point. And the person with the most points at the end of the competition is the winner! The 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place winners will receive a one-time-only Chiri-Chiri Award to show off on their user page! And that's to say nothing of the self-satisfaction I can guarantee as well as the undying gratitude of countless Cosmere fans! Never edited Coppermind before? No problem! It's not hard and we've got plenty of resource to get you started. The most important thing you can do is join our Discord server, where you can get personal help at all hours. From there we can also recommend several guides and examples that will get you started. Just let us know that you're new and we'll give you a warm welcome! The competition begins NOW! Let's do this!
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  3. I know! It seems so obvious now: "The Rhythm of War"....of course it would end in a dance battle. I can't believe I didn't see it earlier
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  4. Lots of foreshadowing in Chapter 19.
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  5. The best part was probably when Sigzil and the other Windrunners went to confront Taravangian after they found out about his dealings with Odium. Sigzil: In the name of the allied coalition of Roshar, you're under arrest, king Taravangian. Taravangian: Are you threatening me, Radiant Sigzil? Sigzil: The coalition will decide your fate. Taravangian: I am the coalition. Sigzil: Not yet. Taravangian: It's treason then.
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  6. There was some discussion of the Masked Ones, the Fused Lightweaver equivalents.. Perhaps this is foreshadowing that there is a Masked One spy in Urithiru? Maybe even at that very meeting? If you’ll don your aluminum hat with me - isn’t it odd that Taravangian no longer requires aides and is, according to Navani, very lucid and present basically all the time now? Shouldn’t he still be having his “stupid” compassion days? Has T been replaced by a Masked One? He could be alive and well, coaching this one in his mannerisms and such, so that no one is suspicious. I don’t know if I believe this, but it is fun to think about.
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  7. That might be what Jasnah is saying, but I don't believe it for a moment. I think she is lying to everyone in order to make Kaladin have to marry her and become king of Alethkar. Now that everyone knows that he is the son of Tanavast, it'd add a lot of stability to her rule, which she desperately needs with Elhokar coming back and all.
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  8. And what about that Kelsier interlude? Y’know, the one where he punched Odium? Pure gold.
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  9. I can see why Brandon was so excited about the epilogue on this one. Wit's free-style rap was pretty epic.
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  10. The viral campaign to #cancelodium and deplatform him from the spanreed network felt out of place and ultimately pointless.
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  11. For those of you who recently finished Dawnshard and are currently sitting on your couch trying to not overload your brain, post your immediate reactions here! AHHH AHHHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHH HOID IS A DAWNSHARD BECAUSE DAWNSHARDS WERE USED TO KILL ADONALSIUM BUT SOMEHOW ITS ACTUALLY BREATHS MAYBE IN A METALMIND OH MY GOSH I WANT MOOOOOOOOOOORE (ALSO THE LOPEN. 'NUFF SAID.)
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  12. From the album: Some awakening animations

    An animation I made of an awakened stop sign
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  13. Sigzil is mentioned, along with Kaladin and Teft, as having said the traditional "I legit hate this person" form of the Third Oath, and I wonder who exactly aroused his ire. "Storm it, I gave them the Voidbringer Attack Evacuation Forms, not a single one of them is in formation, they're not even fully packed-- serve them right if I just left them there for the Fused... *sigh* No, I must rescue even those who didn't bother to read Section 32(b)..." *icy glyphs* THESE WORDS ARE ACCEPTED.
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  14. Secret History: Also, I see your Eleventh Metal meme and raise you this!
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  15. Everyone is throwing permutation-combination of words for Kaladin's 4th Ideal. Sandertwist- He's not gonna swear it.
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  16. That was not anticlimactic but postclimactic :-)
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  17. Honestly it took me way too long to get the joke
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  18. Here are the translated images: The Atrium: The Fourth Bridge: The Arnist Method:
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  19. OK so tidbits I picked up so far. Sleepless The Sleepless are few in number and seem to age and reproduce slowly. Their reproduction method apparently happens when one swarm splits off another grouping. This particular group of sleepless numbers only 24. It is unclear how many more there are on Roshar but no more are known. They have spied on and are worried about our radiants. Also apparenty the one Lift met is something of a maverick. We don't really know why but apparently they think Dalinar making the right choices is more dangerous then playing into the enemy's plans(I no idea why). Hoid warned the horneaters two generations ago that they could not fight the sleepless. Fabrails Huio is a genius and he invented the aluminum method that the Azish take credit for. It seems that it works by making it so that only some motions matter circular motion = back and forth as only lateral movement matters. I am really interested for Rysn to star Prof Xing around on a floating chair. Dawnshard Aimia's undersea caverns contain a DAWNSHARD that the sleepless are guarding. There are apparently four and they were used to shatter adonalsium. Sharders speculate that each made four of the four shads. Rysn has the one that makes things improve, change, grow and possibly learn(Endowment, Ruin, Cultivation, Wisdom?). According to Cord it came through Cultivation's perpendicularity. Hoid was effected by (another?) Dawnshard that turned him vegan under principles similar to savantism. Horneaters The Horneaters are awesome. More importantly the Horneaters have a sacred duty to control access to the perpendicularity which explains a little about RoW Perhaps the Horneaters were given sanctuary in exchange for this duty? I also wonder how old they are as a people. Did a group of singers do this ahead of time? Maybe they interbred with the humans specifically so that they could stick around? They apparently have a whole group of people who work in diplomacy/worship of the spren. Rock's enhanced strength comes from Mandras or luckspren. We still don't know what kind of spren they are but they apparently guard wealth so maybe prosperityspren? The Lopen Lopen and Huio leveled up! We got Lopen's third ideal. An interesting twist about self knowledge. Larkin Ancient Guardians, Larkin or Lanceryn as they originally were called were tasked perhaps even created to guard the dawnshard. They bond a particular kind of luckspen only found on Aimia. Eight soulcasters were found on Aimia. They were offerings to the larkin. It is unclear why they would want any. The sleepless managed to interbreed with the Larkin and took over their task of gaurding. Apparently Chiri-Chiri will in fact grow big enough to ride(can't wait). They are also a sapient species. I wonder what other abilities they might have? The Reshi The Reshi King Rysn met seems to have transitioned as of becoming a Dustbringer! The Reshi greatshells can communicate intelligent and important information? They also come to agreements about how to act? They have a "government" and uphold ideologies and causes? What else have we learned?
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  20. Here's a discussion thread on RoW Chapter 19 You can read it here: https://www.tor.com/2020/11/10/read-rhythm-of-war-by-brandon-sanderson-chapter-nineteen/ This is the FINAL preview chapter! Rhythm of War comes next week!
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  21. I haven't seen this posted elsewhere so I hope I'm not breaking any rules by doing so. The sample chapters of RoW are up on IBooks and while obviously textually we get nothing new we do get three very cool new illustrations we haven't seen before. The first is from Shallan's Sketchbook and is called The Atrium. The second is from Navani's Notebook and is called The Fourth Bridge. The third is also from Navani's Notebook and is called The Arnist Method. These are at least to me really cool visualisations but I'm sure to those with the time and the willingness to do so the latter two will also be an opportunity to translate some more of the Alethi woman's speech - would be particularly awesome to know what the notes to the third say I imagine.
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  23. I felt this on a personal level. I tried to draw Kaladin on my math notes a few weeks ago and it wasn't the best but I tried. His slave brands look like a storming tarantula just hanging out on his forehead.
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  24. I know, its so hard now that there are thousands of personas to keep track of. I don't find it surprising that Adolin didn't notice (the sleepless can become VERY specialized after all) but I did think that it was interesting that she wouldn't even notice when two of her own hordelings went off and just shanked Taravangian like that! Especially right after he bonded that inkspren! And the fact that a portion of her hordelings got stuck in the past in "Urithirtwo" only makes me more worried about more personas emerging. Though I am rather fond of her new Chouta saleswoman persona. She gets along surprisingly well with Lezian and Leshwi! They make quite the family, now that Adolin divorced her and married Maya the radiant instead. (Which I was not a fan of, just FYI)
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  25. In fact, what this indicates is that Breaths are the magic system but not the Hieghtenings (and perhaps not even the Commands). Whether it is forced or not from each one, I myself find it very interesting. Brandon confirmed that a certain level of Investiture has similar effects: https://www.reddit.com/r/Stormlight_Archive/comments/jovvuo/dawnshard_is_here/gbbsifd/?context=3 It really gives me something to think about Nicrosilmind, especially about Compouding it. Huh
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  26. If I’m honest, I saw the Chouta stand infiltration from a mile away. The fact that the Fused were going to get into Urithiru by hiding in Chouta stands was pretty well foreshadowed in the previews. I was not expecting the tax evasion plot line though, and the redemption of Leshwi and Lezian into happy Chouta salespeople. Good subversion from Brandon, I think. What were y’all’s thoughts on that?
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  27. “You’ve got to use your awesomeness” The strange little Reshi girl standing on the crate in front of Venli said. Venli blinked slowly, attuning confusion. “My- awesomeness? Pardon but what is ‘awesomeness’, young one?” The girl- Lift, as she had called herself- slapped her palm to her head in frustration. “Storms woman, I don’t know why I try with you.” She placed her hands on her hips and tapped her foot frustratedly, scrunching her face as if in deep thought. ”Awesomeness,” the girl finally said “is like the feeling you get when you steal a nice warm Horneater soup- and then eat it. All of it. Shells and all. It makes you feel all fuzzy and excited inside, like a storm- only, not in your stomach but everywhere. In your whole body.” Venli perked up. It sounds as if she’s describing Stormlight. Could it be? ”And” Venli said cautiously, “How does one- obtain this awesomeness, wise one?” A crack resounded as the young girl smacked Venli’s head with a wooden spoon. Venli stumbled away, cursing and massaging the spot the girl had struck her with the cooking implement. What in Damnation was wrong with this strange vagrant of a child? ”Were you even listening!?!?” Lift yelled, gesticulating wildly. “It’s like I said- you’ve got to eat the soup! Storms, you’re almost as bad as the creepy bald guy- the only difference is he had the talking sword to help him out.” Lift gave a long, melodramatic sigh before plopping herself down on the edge of the crate. “Here, let’s start from the beginning...” ————————————————————— Storms... now I really really want this...
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  28. Remember when Kaladin was sitting in his room hopelessly depressed until Syl fetched Adolin and Adolin forced him to socialize a bit and he felt better afterwards? All 3 of those people who can force or encourage Kaladin to better take care of himself are leaving (Adolin, Dalinar, Jasnah).
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  29. My lunch table is kinda awkward. The other 3 people are out because ‘rona. Good thing I don’t mind sitting alone and reading, but people keep looking at me. Social anxiety.
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  30. Probably something along those lines. "I will protect even those who could have protected themselves if they just listened to me when I explained the proper.... never mind, I will protect even those I hate, so long as it is right."
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  31. I was waiting for you to comment on this. I'm going to have fun bantering back and forth with you re: adolin for the next few months, aren't I. In all seriousness, I liked this in-text confirmation of what Kal experienced from the Honorspren in Shadesmar too: Syl is an anomaly and, for being the "ancient daughter" is pretty condescended to, as if she was naive or stupid, I think. SF did this to her in WoK. I like that she has her autonomy to make her choices. I do think Sizgil is right here, though, Kal is a horrible diplomat. He's stubborn and ideological and honorable...very honorspren like, actually. haha
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  32. Here's a question: would the Radiant suppressor work on Renarin at all? Same question for Venli. Our two 'odd' cases both have some ties to both Honor and Odium.
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  33. That is absolutely how I read it as well. Raboniel said back in Ch. 14, In terms of trapping the singers against Emul, do we know if Tukar has been fighting them and Dalinar both in a three-way war? I am forgetting already!
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  34. Ok, but you can’t lie, Rlain’s dance battle for the fate of the Listeners was pretty great. I was not expecting him to start breakdancing in the middle of the highstorm, that’s for sure. Looking back though, the foreshadowing was all there. Brandon got us again!
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  35. I would never have guessed Shallan's secret--she's really a Sleepless? No wonder she had so many personalities. She's made up of thousands of hordelings after all. I am a bit surprised that Adolin didn't figure that out sooner though...
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  36. Holy cow- I don’t think I’ve ever given Navani enough credit, she’s clearly more of a genius than I thought. As a final chapter for part one, this felt very- understated? I suppose? Which is certainly not a bad thing, but it feels like it fits a different pattern than the other SA books. Still, I appreciated that we got some more Coalition politics. Also- Stonewards!!! Oh yeah! This is awesome! And it was really good to hear about the other Radiants as well. It makes me wonder (discussion of spoiler-free reviews under the cut) Other thoughts: -Good to see my boi Sigzil stepping up- though, I feel that Kaladin is going to be sorely missed. -Taravangian terrifies me. At this point, I have NO idea how the coalition is going to deal with him. -I think Sanderson definitely missed a chance to have Lift go with the envoy... if only for the potential humor alone.
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  37. I'm not very good at making memes, but Dawnshard is too good not to try.
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  38. This is like the first time I've made memes.
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  39. I noticed this in the annotations for Dawnshard: Emphasis on the fact that he can’t eat meat. What!? Since when!? Does his curse to not be able to physically harm people also extend to animals, and therefore he cannot eat them? the most alarming and depressing part of this is this fact we have known for a while, quote: I know someone brought this up on the Reddit q and a already, but I needed to get this off my chest
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  40. So, the last preview chapter is out and the Tuesdays of anxiously refreshing at 9am 'til Tor posted have ended. The past few months reading the chapters and coming here to enjoy the great insinghtness of my fellow Sharders and scream of excitement in the only place where people would get it have been amazing. Brandon's incredible work made its way into my life quite recently and almost instantly I joined the Shard. Coming here to read detailed theories, outright speculation and simple reactions of emotion have been the best way for me to deal with the stress of the pandemic and finishing my college year online. In that note I can't keep myself from shouting Thanks to Brandon, his Dragonsteel team, everybody on Tor, Lindsey and Alice for those detailed Read-Along Discussions, to the Admins here for making sure we don't miss any of the new info and have great threads; and finally to everyone who has been active on this Forum for just being great. In one weeks time RoW will be out and I'm expecting a huge explotion here(never been around for a book premiere), so we have plenty to look forward to. Even so ( and though I can't wait to get my hands on the book ASAP) I am going to miss the weekly releases. Virtual hugs for everyone. If you also loved coming here on Tuesdays leave a Shout and share the love.
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  41. so earlier @Scout_Fox and I were talking on a status update about time machines... Anyway, Mine showed up and I just came from 2078 and I have some major SA book 10 spoilers! So, Dalinar becomes a crab and has a huge battle with stick who is a worldhopper and picked up the shard of odium and they fight and all of a sudden Wayne walks in, breaks the 4th wall and the entire cosmere stops right there. anyway... Oh, right! hey, past self! go read! *slaps self* I am weird no, I don't need help...
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  42. When you put a sneaky Stormlight reference in your velocity worksheet.
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  43. I was personally really annoyed about Restares. All that build-up and it turns out he's just three minks in a havah? I was expecting more. Speaking of Minks, though, I thought the bit where he accidentally conquered Tukar in the name of Herdaz was pretty funny. I know it's probably not going to happen, but I hope New Herdaz is going to actually be a thing in book five. Lopen can be their king.
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  44. As soon as they started eliminating people and they came to Edgedancers, I really wanted Lift to go. Who knows, maybe she'll sneak off an end up going anyway Isn't this exactly what the Fused wanted, to get the Bondsmith and Elsecaller out of the tower? It definitely makes you think that Taravangian is still working directly with the Fused. But it also doesn't rule out the Mink, given that he's the one who persuaded them to take the fight there. I could see a plotline where Dalinar and compnay are so focused on Taravangian, that they overlook a betrayal from someone else (e.g. the Mink). Edit: in the time it took to write this post, there were a few replies and as I was going through them I thought "Oh, someone else wanted Lift to go on the envoy....oh, that someone is me. The post I just wrote..."
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  45. Okayokayokay Done a quickish skim read of the threads. some thoughts, a lot of ?????? o_O? I gotta say The elims have done a good job of being not ellimy imo cause yeah. I tried building a suspicion list of who I thought were villagers vs eliminators. A lot of players were constantly bouncing from hard evil to hard village to I HAVE NO IDEA. Also I feel like I'm stepping into very very different shoes. I have a feeling if asked questions about elks behaviour I will not have answers for you I'm afraid. Idk how their brain works Also there are peoples i don't recognise! Hello peoples! I am Burnt! Chatty gal who lives in pms, very indesicive, not much of an essay writer of sanity. I played the original version of this ruleset! I guess that makes me old? I look forward to meeting yall mostly in pms when night comes in theory assuming I remember to send messages and that they're still open and that you're willing to be messaged! Things I noted from the read-through of the game: People have been after mist a lot this game? people sus, but enough trust only one dead evil- means a good amount of current players are likely evil. Given there's a lot of people seeming trustworthy, that concerns me. condensation kinda chaotic but hemalurgist? Danex sus but claimed mistborn so apparently, that makes it okay? Thats a lot of villagers lynched. Interestingly, out of current living Araris has been part of every successful lynch. TJ and Whysper often key lynchers as well. See spoiler: It just always makes me concerned when the same people often vote together and lead the lynches. This makes me sus of Araris and TJ more than Whysper The lack of death is interesting. The option id feel most likely is that danex is elim pretending to be mistborn so that the kill seems legit and like it is confirming their mistbornness but I'm a paranoid player. Its just like at this stage elims are being clever so face value don't mean much. Sneaky elims bus teammates, good elims don't ally themselves together also also, sometimes if there's miscommunication and two elims try put in order those can cancel and nothing happens too, idk if that's a case in this game though but that's happened to me as elim before so can add that to the list of possible explanations also also also while the going after inactive cause probably elims is a good call, I'd recommend making sure that if we do lynch a quiet folk, that is there actually info we can learn if they are evil? anyways I'm still getting my head around what I think about each people, this is just my initial having read things thoughts. Araris i will never trust ( <3 past experience, I'm sure you understand, take it as me thinking highly of your ability), so I can fully see him being evil despite his parts in the ashbringer lynch (imo everything he did there would be a very good elim play to gain the trusts, but idk), and Danex has me concerned from the kill stuff feel free to ask me clarifications on that mess of stream of thought I will try formulate more thoughts on request? sidenote- how many actions can people do in one turn? is it just one? Like, could someone protect and do the elim kill at the same time? could that be another potential thingy that happened? like, the active elim who normally doing the kills choosing to do a different action out of necessity or something...?
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  46. After rereading I got some new ones:
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  47. That one, I think, is more metaphorical than literally. She feels like she's always acting. "Shallan" is a persona, "Veil" is a persona, "Radiant" is a persona. Shallan is only pretending to be a functional human being, sending out fake puppets into the world while she herself is whatever is hiding inside them. I think literally speaking, Shallan is a normal human, the daughter of Lin and (unnamed mother Davar). Mentally, she feels like the persona she projects to the world is entirely fake/pretend.
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