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  1. AHHHH I’M SO HAPPY!!! Okay, check out this. this is a new art program I just bought:
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  2. Not at all to down here guys just thinking of all the people following: Remember, this is (I believe) the most followed thread with 140 people and they all came for memes so if what is being discussed isn't 140-person-Sanderson-meme-interestingness it should probably go to a different thread (like Sharder Memes! ) or a PM so we don't give all 140 a bunch of unrelated notifications!
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  3. This is you're friendly reminder to go drink some water! Seriously, go drink some.
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  4. This post is the consequence of the most recent chapter epigraph about how the metal "conducts" stormlight, but it took a bit of a left turn and I actually barely theorize about what that metal might be. It is also sort of an extension of a comment I posted almost three months ago. If you're interested, here it is: (Although I will be reiterating most of the information there, so it is not necessary for you to read first) In this comment, I provided a theory about how and why stormlight moves in terms of changes in potential energy. To be clear here, the potential energy I refer to is not the energy of the investure that makes up the stormlight, but rather the potential energy of the stormlight's position in the environment. For example, if you put an infused sphere at the top of Urithiru, it would have a lot more potential energy than the same sphere at ground level. This potential energy is due to the sphere's ability to drop, not because of the amount of stormlight it contains. Without any barriers, any system will tend towards having the lowest potential energy. Balls will roll downhill. Stormlight will move from positions of higher potential energy to positions of lower energy. In addition to differences in potential energy, we need to talk about "activation energy" here, which is a concept from chemical kinetics. Basically, activation energy acts as a barrier to a process. Rather than determining whether a process will happen*, it determines how quickly it will happen. (*Note: if you make the barrier high enough, you can stop something from happening by making it ridiculously slow). This barrier is the reason why the processes I describe will not happen instantaneously. So, here's my energy diagram for stormlight: Here are my justifications for the features of this diagram: All stormlight eventually returns to a free, gaseous state not held in any object. However, that does not guarantee that it is the lowest energy state. If it behaves like water in the water cycle, then it could "evaporate" despite the fact that this process increases energy. I have no true evidence that stormlight is lower in energy at a free state than when it is in a gemstone, but this is the simplest placement. You could place it between "Gemstone (Small)" and "Radiant" without really changing this thoery, although small adjustments would have to be made. Large gemstones leak stormlight slowly, so there is a large barrier which slows down this process. Small gemstones leak more quickly, so the barrier for this process is smaller. Stormlight will automatically transfer from a smaller gemstone to nearby larger gemstones during the process of trapping a spren. This process is spontaneous, so the potential energy of stormlight in a large gemstone is lower than that in a high gemstone. EDIT: I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner. Perhaps the best explanation for why larger gemstones are lower energy has to do with the "concentration" of stormlight. It's very possible that the energy density of stormlight in a fully charged small gemstone and large gemstone are equal. The same quantity of stormlight in a smaller gemstone, however, occupies less volume. Thus, when given the opportunity it will "diffuse" to a larger empty gemstone where it takes up more volume. Basically, the potential energy of stormlight in a gemstone increases as the concentration does. This is more in line with the description of stormlight as moving along a pressure gradient, since this is how pressure works in gasses. If you have gas in a small container and you allow it to move to a larger one, it will diffuse between the two. The only difference is that it would leave some gas in the small container. Don't know if that happens for stormlight. Features of gemstones such as their cut determine the size of the barriers, but not the energy of stormlight within the gemstone. Stormlight is at a higher energy when held by a Radiant than when held by a gemstone. I know this because when Kaladin swears the third oath, stormlight entering him from nearby gems causes the air to grow cold and form frost. This means the process consumed energy. Objects other than Radiants and gemstones are even higher in energy. We know this because when Szeth or Kaladin infuse an object with a lot of stormlight, the object grows cold and forms frost. Again, this is a consequence of energy being consumed. (That is what the arrows saying "endothermic" in my diagram mean). A really common demonstration in chemistry classes is to perform an endothermic reaction in a beaker above a block of wood, with some water in between. The water will freeze, binding the beaker to the wood. High-investure conditions refers to states such as Honor's perpendicularity, from which stormlight will burst out and fill gemstones. So far, this is identical to the theory in my much earlier comment, except with the additional evidence of the frost-formation, which I didn't think of three months ago. Now, you can probably see how the conductive metal does its thing according to this theory—it reduces the energy barrier between a Radiant and a gemstone, therefore facilitating this transfer quickly. This is the point where I decided to focus too much on the word "conducting" and went off the rails by drawing circuits. (Disclaimer: I am a chemistry student, so I'm pretty well versed with thermodynamics but am less confident with circuits. Please help me out if you actually know circuits super well) So, how do circuits relate to thermodynamics? Well, the driving force behind the current in any circuit is a difference in potential energy of electrons at the beginning of a circuit versus the end of a circuit. In this analogy, I well be relating the movement of stormlight to the current. (And yes, I'm using positive current. Despite the fact electrons flow the other way. Maybe that's dumb, go ahead and flip all the signs if you wish). Stored stormlight will be represented as stored charge—a capacitor! Here is where things get a bit tricky though. A capacitor, in the simplest case, consists of two parallel sheets of metal which each store opposing electric charge. The capacitor will fill with charge when it is connected to a battery, and without a battery it will act as a source of charge and produce a current in a closed circuit. Now, in order for this to work with stormlight I had to make some... adjustments. The object holding the stormlight cannot really be represented by the capacitor itself, but rather by one of the sheets of the capacitor. The other sheet of the capacitor represents the object that the stormlight is flowing to or from. As I switch between different processes, I will be switching these sheets out. Which is not really a thing that happens in circuits. It felt weird. (I think there might be an easier way to do this that has to do with something called "ground" but uhhh as I said I'm not too well versed at this so any electrical engineers please help). (Also, for those unfamiliar with circuit notation: a capacitor is two parallel lines of equal length. A battery is two parallel lines of unequal length. Resistors will be zig-zags). Let's apply this to the simplest case: stormlight being held in a gemstone. The infused gemstone acts like a positively charged plate in a capacitor. Freedom represents the negatively charged plate. Stormlight, represented as current, which flows from the positive plate to the negative plate, escapes the gemstone. The barrier to this process is represented by a resistor, which slows the transfer down. In this case, the resistance is very high and the transfer takes a long time (days). Next, we can look at the process of a Radiant drawing in stormlight from a gemstone. This is an endothermic process (it increases energy) so energy must be supplied to facilitate it. In this case, the Radiant has the power to act as a battery: On the left is the initial state. On the right is the final state. This is also the first example of the weirdness that was a consequence of using capacitor plates to represent objects. Why is the gemstone, which begins infused, initially uncharged? Well, if I had given it a positive charge, the battery (Radiant) wouldn't have been needed to drive the flow of current. In order to represent the fact that the gemstone is lower in energy than the Radiant, despite containing stormlight, I had to make the plate begin as uncharged. Afterwards, the Radiant will look like this: Basically, the same as with an infused gemstone. The only difference here is that the resistance is much lower, allowing current to flow faster (the stormlight leaks faster). When a Radiant gets stabbed by one of those special conductive Fused spears, the resistance essentially disappears: Thus, current (stormlight) flows very quickly from the positive plate (Radiant) to the negative plate (gemstone). When a Windrunner like Kaladin infuses an object with stormlight, the process looks very similar to when the Radiant draws stormlight from a gemstone. The Windrunner acts as a battery and transfers stormlight from lower energy to higher energy. (Okay these are the last ones I promise) What happens after the object is infused? There are two subtly different possibilities that involve circuits, and one which doesn't: The first possibility is that, as the stormlight leaves the object, some of the potential energy that it is releasing is converted into the effect of the surge. At first, this option seems to be the most appealing because it is how stuff gets powered in real-life electrical circuits. (like lightbulbs) (by the way, this process also involves some resistance so it doesn't happen all at once) However, there's a bit of an issue here. If the surge is produced by stormlight leaving the object, the an object like a gemstone, which has a much higher "resistance" and thus slower stormlight loss, should exhibit the surge less strongly. Since this is not the case, I believe the second possibility is more accurate: that there is a small amount of resistance which leads to the object losing stormlight quickly, and that the effect of the surge is maintained as long as there is stormlight left in the object. The third explanation kind of defies circuits and it is that stormlight is actually consumed to produce the surge. Since current is never consumed when an electrical circuit, I couldn't figure out a way to represent that. This is also the reason why I haven't represented stormlight healing or surges such as Soulcasting or Progression, which appear to consume stormlight. The same conundrum applies to fabrials: do they consume the stormlight, or do they consume potential energy as the stormlight escapes them? Anyway, thank you to anybody who actually read this whole thing. Wow. You're almost as crazy as I am for writing this. For those who didn't, I totally understand. Although I can't quite come up with a good TL;DR. I might include that later. (Edit: wow a lot of the formatting here is wonky. There's extra blank lines and weird indents all over the place)
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  5. I’m so storming excited! Dawnshard is being sent out to Kickstarter backers today! This is the prelude to the insomnia I will have when RoW comes out, because I’m not sleeping if there's reading to be done! (And the authors get a kickback from the caffeine industry )
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  7. I just accidentally deleted my main Minecraft world that I had hundreds and hundreds of hours on I have no backups I think I’m in shock
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  8. The wait for Dawnshard is over, at least if you backed The Way of Kings Leatherbound Kickstarter! The novella is being sent out via BackerKit now. For non-backers, they will put the novella on ebook stores, which may take a few more days. There will be a print version of Dawnshard coming to Kickstarter backers, but that won't be until early next year. There will also be an audio version, but according to Brandon that is not coming "for a year at least." Still, Dawnshard is out! That's exciting! The ebook should contain a bunch of different versions of it, including MOBI, EPUB, and PDF files, similar to Way of Kings Prime. Dawnshard spoilers are only* allowed in the Dawnshard Spoiler Board on the forums and the #dawnshard-spoilers channel on our Discord server - and you don't need to hide or tag them in those places. These spoiler areas will last for three months from now, as that is our usual cosmere novella spoiler period length. Dawnshard spoilers will also start showing up on the Coppermind wiki, but pages that include them will also include a warning up top for the 3-month spoiler period. What if I want to talk about Dawnshard and Rhythm of War? This is what the asterisk above is. If you want to talk about both of these new Stormlight stories, you must do so in the Rhythm of War forums/channels - no RoW spoilers will be allowed in the Dawnshard forums/channel! In addition: On the forums, you must either have [Dawnshard] in the topic title (in which case you don't need to tag or hide DS content in the thread), or use the spoiler tag (eye icon in the toolbar) to hide any Dawnshard material; if you are using the tag, make sure you also label what this is a spoiler for somewhere in your post. All of this will remain in effect until the 3-month spoiler period for Dawnshard is over, after which you'll be able to freely talk about it in any Stormlight forum, as well as the general Cosmere one. On Discord, you must use either #row-spoilers or #row-magic-mechanics. For about a month after Dawnshard's release, you must put Dawnshard content behind spoiler tags (double vertical bars around your message, ||like this||) and label them as Dawnshard spoilers - just like you would in #tagged-spoilers-only (where you can also talk about Dawnshard, provided you tag and label it properly). After that timeframe, Dawnshard content will be allowed to be unlabeled in those two channels. And again, please no Rhythm of War content in the Dawnshard area. One last non-Dawnshard spoiler policy thing: if you happen to get Rhythm of War early, full book spoilers will not be allowed to be posted until November 17th. Only discuss the released sample chapters. Some bookstores break street date every year, so we just wanted to mention that.
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  9. Yeah, at 57k words (or a mite shorter with revisions), we're talking full-on (short) novel length. For context: Stephen King's The Dark Tower: Gunslinger is 56,583 Faulkner's As I Lay Dying: 56,695 Fahrenheit 451 is a full 10-11k fewer at: 46,118 Heck, of the various Narnia books, only "The Magician's Nephew" was longer. While I'm eagerly refreshing my inbox far too often... the wait is well worth it.
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  10. 4am here in Australia. But who could possibly sleep on Dawnshard Day?
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  11. It needs to come in the next hour, when I am technically allowed to be on my phone. (Or after school, but then I have one act to deal with)
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  12. This is tough. "Voidbringer" refers to a tool of Odium. Humans were the original Voidbringers. The Fused and other current followers of Odium are the current Voidbringers. The parshmen awakened by the Everstorm are not, and comprise the largest part of Odium's armies. By referring to the parshmen as Singers instead of Voidbringers, you prop open the door allowing the awakened parshmen to be accepted into the forces against Odium. Calling them Voidbringers keeps that door closed This will be the basis of the war going forward. Venli's story in Rhythm of War will be her crusade to pull the awakened parshmen (Singers) from Odium's grip. Dalinar will, hopefully, see this and help her. Kaladin will be integral (I believe having to choose between helping singers or helping his family (and hurting the same singers) will be part of his 4th Ideal struggle) in this. The fight against Odium will depend on which side the majority of awakened parshmen go to
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  13. Between checking the news for updates on the US election and checking for updates on what day/time Dawnshard is coming this week I have been fruitlessly checking websites way too much . Today is the day though, so pumped!
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  14. This is my first post - but I’ve been thinking that the fourth oath is: ”I will let fall the ones I cannot save, so that others may stand”. Building upon the excellent analysis earlier in the this thread, I agree that the oaths tend to be active statements. I then look back at the chapter titles in Oathbringer where Kaladin is first struggling to say the oath: when they are storming the palace in Kholinar. Chapter 84: The One You Can Save. Chapter 86: The Others May Stand. I may be reading too much into this, but its almost like Brandon is placing the words of the oath there, just beyond our perception - like they are for Kaladin. The formulation “I will let fall the ones I cannot save, so that others may stand” uses the words of these chapter headings, and, like earlier oaths, addresses the block that is preventing Kaladin from functioning: he wants to have everyone, so he can save no-one. It also feels like it has a nice poetic symmetry.
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  15. Thanks everyone! This is very nice! You can ping me for this
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  16. So. Big news, huh? Instead of writing several pages, I am just going with what I think - some of which is inspired by people like @Windrunner's ideas. I think the four Dawnshards are: Creation - something from nothing Destruction - something into nothing Change - something into something else Statis - something... and then still something Brandon just dropped an annotation for this book, and apparently Hoid was a Dawnshard at one point (!). His immortality seems consistent with the Statis Dawnshard. Rysn's is obviously Change. Also, I think of the Dawnshards as kind of proto-Shards or pseudo-Shards, and during the Shattered of Adonalsium, the resulting 16 Shards were somehow influenced by the Dawnshards, resulting in the Intents we (mostly) now know. Okay, I am done, back to freaking out!
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  17. I've been wondering how exactly that would go over in modern Alethkar, especially among lighteyes. I mean, they've got such strict gender roles they don't even eat the same food. Imagine previously-unremarkable Brightlord So-and-so, vaguely recall seeing him at a party once, I think he's maybe from Vamah?-- bonds a Cryptic and "his" first truth is "I am a woman." Suck in some Stormlight, and voila, Brightlady! Not just female-identifying or female-presenting, but actually biologically female. Even the most hidebound Vorin can't explain that away. I keep trying to imagine how things play out from there both for Brightlady So-and-so and the people around her.
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  18. I saw this clip of Llamas with Hats and was immediately reminded of Kelsier
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  19. Noobs. You forget Daliner
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  20. Keep in mind, Odium's color seems to be a "burning" gold. The knife used to kill Jezrien was a light gold. A godmetal or godmetal alloy as the Investiture conductor with the sapphire gem as the storage device. It's quite possible that there is some potential energy (potential Investiture?) difference that caused the sapphire to pull the high potential Cognitive Shadow that is Jezrien into itself. The material of the knife, how it was Connected to the gem, how it was Connected to the wielder and how the Connection was made to the target all provided a conduit between the shell of Jezriel (high potential) and the gem (low potential). Dalinar was able to use a large, perfect ruby to capture Nergaoul. The gem by itself was doing no pulling because there was no Connection. Dalinar had an existing Connection to Nergaoul, pulled on this Connection while holding the stone, and transferred that Connection to the gem using his Bondsmith Connection to the powers provided by the Stormfather Connection is the key term here. From what we've seen, in the Cosmere, physical phenomena are secondary effects to Connection and Investiture. Connection DEFINES Physical phenomena, allowing those phenomena to be altered by use of Investiture: a Windrunner Lashing changes the direction of effect of gravity (a secondary Physical phenomena that normally Connects Physical objects to the planet they're on) using Stormlight (Investiture) and a Bond (Connection) to a Spren (the Cognitive aspect of a Physical or phenomena). It's quite possible that gems that aren't holding Investiture are considered to be in low potential, and creating a Connection allows high potential (high Investiture). BTW, Stormlight isn't consumed. The relationship between Investiture, Energy and Matter is a fully conservative one. Investiture moves between one place, state or Realm and another, it is neither lost nor gained. I would postulate that the act of Healing, for instance, uses the innate Investiture of the object being Healed first. This creates a low potential state must be filled in by more Investiture for the action to continue. The Connection created by the Healing creates a conduit for Stormlight (where there is Stormlight there is a very high potential) to fill in the Investiture being used for the action. This shouldn't be considered consumption, as the "used" Investiture is being transferred to the Spiritual Realm to create the desired change. On Roshar, Honor's Perpendicularity creates a Connection between the Spiritual Realm and Physical to allow raw Investiture to be transferred in the form of Stormlight. Normally, this Perpendicularity is located in the Storm. The remnants of the Shard of Honor are creating the difference in potential that powers this whole cycle. I wish I could organize all that better. In any case, I like it. I do believe that Investiture and Connection define the Physical laws of thermodynamics and electromagnetism in the Cosmere, which allows for altering them via the magic systems. I also believe that Brandon means for Investiture to follow similar laws in doing so. So this all fits from a meta perspective, as well.
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  21. I can’t even do that, it’ll go to my mom’s email the hype is too much!
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  22. Just looked it up on the Facebook post. Here's the quote from a day ago. So it looks like it will be available for those of us that missed out on or where unable contribute to the Kickstarter within the week.
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  23. Any news for us non-Kickstarter supporters that want the e-book?
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  24. And now something completely different. [Kaladin’s definitive 4th oath] ... [better not read it] ... [I warned you....] .... “I will treat every appendicitis like I will treat Odium himself!”
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  25. The one thing I've thought - the oath has to involve some commitment to do something in particular, it has to be active. I don't think it can just be "I will accept..." or "I will let go..." or something like that. It needs to provide a course of action for the Windrunner to take. That makes it harder to swear, too. I think it'll be a situation where not only does Kaladin have to accept that he can't save everyone, it'll be a situation where he deliberately has to send someone into danger. Something like "I will send the strong to protect the helpless, even at the cost of their lives." Or maybe one where he extends the "I" to a "We" as a leader: "We will protect those we must, together, with all our lives on the line." Not sure. I haven't found a good phrasing of that oath that completely makes sense to me.
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  26. "I will let go of those I cannot protect" The sequence in Shadesmar where Kaladin failed to say the Words consisted of him listing all of those he failed to protect while Windspren appeared. His words at the point of failure were: "I. . .can't" "I can't lose him, but. . .oh, Almighty. . .I can't save him." Prior to that, Kaladin pulled Windspren to him while thinking of the oaths. This line of thought was triggered by: "The thought of Dalinar needing him now-while Kaladin was trapped and unable to help-brought a pain that was almost physical. He'd failed so many people in his life. . ." ...followed by a listing of the three Oaths he'd already sworn. In each case, thinking about the people he'd failed resulted in Windspren showing up. I think we can assume that the Windspren were attracted to him getting close to swearing the Oath. The Oath directly deals with people Kaladin knows he's failed. A person who has devoted his life to protecting others will inevitably fail and must learn to deal with that failure. That has to be the Fourth Oath. Power granted for learning that not everyone is savable and not every failure needs to be on the protector's shoulders. He failed because he was trying to say the Words specifically to save someone he knew he couldn't protect. "I can't save him" is the key to the whole sequence. He wanted to say the Fourth Oath to get the burst of power to get out of the current situation so he could save someone he knew he couldn't save. The contradiction meant he couldn't MEAN the Oath. "I will let go of those I cannot protect"
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  27. Hello, friends! I wanted to make a thread of thank you to Chaos for running this server, because I feel like people don't really realize how much work he probably has to put into this, and he probably doesn't realize how much we appreciate him. You can just say like, 'thank you chaos!,' or you can elaborate on something you appreciate about Chaos. So for me, thank you Chaos for running 17th Shard! I know that you put a lot of work into keeping this server regulated and safe, and you have to put up with a bunch of us punky teens who are constantly goofing off, we really do appreciate what you do for us!
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  28. After several months of intensive work, we're happy to finally announce our interactive map and timeline of Roshar! Use it as a refresher on the events of the books before Rhythm of War is released or simply explore the world of Roshar. If you have any issues using the map or have suggestions for us, feel free to comment here, use our feedback thread, or approach us on Discord. Read on to find out more about the map's creation, its features, and what the future holds! Watch this trailer to get a visual overview of things instead: The project came about when our amazing staff member @Jofwu approached me, Paleo, about creating something similar to Netflix's map of The Continent for their Witcher series, based on his detailed timeline of events in The Stormlight Archive. We promptly set out to get the basic map and timeline functionalities done, while coming up with additional neat features to implement along the way. User @Stoneward13 kindly let us use his HD map remakes of both Roshar and Shadesmar, which made the detailed map feasible in the first place. A huge thanks to him is in order! We worked out how we wanted to display which information, gathered art for the various entries, and then integrated it all into the web application. We'd like to thank all the artists who granted us permission to use their works for this endeavor at this point. Thanks also to our own @Otto Didact for helping out with his cartography expertise. Once we felt confident enough to share our work with some more people, we entered a closed beta phase with our Patreon supporters, who provided valuable feedback and helped iron out some leftover kinks. Additionally, we approached @Ysondra of cosmere.es about translating all the information into Spanish. She, @Vanahian, and @Bea did so in a monumental effort over the course of only a few weeks, all the while identifying and fixing issues with the original English text as well! With this and finishing touches done, we were ready for release. Features This of course leaves us with the question of what features the map and timeline actually bring. The following list gives a rough overview: Fully labeled, explorable map of Roshar—including Shadesmar Detailed timeline of the history of Roshar, spanning from pre-history to current events in the published books upto Oathbringer Summaries of events, locations, and characters including links to related items and further details on the Coppermind Wiki Localized content, currently available in the following languages besides English: Spanish Layers on top of the map that can be enabled at any time, displaying useful additional information Overlay the borders of the historic Silver Kingdoms Show color indicators of the allegiances of various nations Map out the ten Oathgate locations Powerful filtering and customization capabilities Filter timeline events by tags Display a timeline separately from the rest to identify a single character's or book's events Lock navigation controls to a separate timeline to follow only its events Upcoming We do not consider this project finished by any means! We'll be delivering improvements as we come up with them and will of course fix any bugs that have found their way into the code. Translations into more languages are forthcoming, albeit with no ETAs as of yet. We appreciate any kind of input and actually have ways in which you can contribute. The project is open-source and hosted on GitHub, so feel free to have a look at the code or report issues there. You can also submit bug reports and suggestions through the forums or Discord in the #17s channel, of course. If you'd like to help out with translations you can also approach us for some pointers at where to start. Artists who want to help out with filling in some of the gaps are also invited to contribute, but please come talk to us for coordination first! It should be noted that the timeline is only current with the events of Oathbringer right now and will stay so for at least a few months. Once timelines for Rhythm of War and Dawnshard are finalized, we'll be updating the app and will release the new content—with a note about upcoming spoilers published ahead of time. We hope you'll have as much fun with this map as we had developing it! If you'd like to support our work and want to get early access to projects like this if they come up again, consider becoming a patron.
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  29. As the title says- what's the biggest flex in the Cosmere? Re-reading Hero of Ages, I would definitely consider it to be when
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  30. Ill just jump right in, with some major spoilers — the Dawnshards aren’t what they were anymore(confirmed by Honor), and they aren’t weapons(not in the traditional sense). They are Commands(confirmed in dawnshard) on the godly level that can like bond with individuals. They were used to kill Adonalsium(confirmed in Dawnshard) and we know that Hoid’s immortality comes from the remnants of the “weapon” used to kill/shatter Adonalsium(WoB) so if we put all of that together, we get the new(not stated) spoiler, that ... Hoid is bonded to a Dawnshard!!! Or more correctly. Hoid is a Dawnshard!!!! also the Dawnshard are described as “the four primal Commands that created all things” and then were used to “undo” Adonalsium — the four Dawnshards were used to Shatter Ado into 16 Pieces. And each Dawnshard seems to have created four Shards, which gives credence to the “Four Shard grouping” theories more evidence is a mural that depicts a White sun Shattering into four pieces and then each piece shattered into 4 more pieces(16 shards total. 4 from each of the original 4 shards) — The original 4 Shards in the Mural were described at “mostly symmetrical” so maybe this is a small hint that maybe some of the “4 shard groupings” have ever so slightly more investiture than some of the other groups — Rysn got A vibe from looking at the mural. she felt that Adonalsium(she just thought of it as “the sun” in the mural) wasnt angry from being shattered. More words used to describe what Ado felt during his Shattering “Resignation? Confidence? Understanding?” The resignation and confidence part seem(to me) to suggest that Adonalsium was fighting some sort of war(most obvious, is the vessels themselves) and had finally given up, but was still confident to the end.and Understanding of why his enemies did what they did.
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  31. Well, looks like I’m not getting any sleep tonight. After a mostly forgettable, low-stakes mild adventure/mystery story, the lore got turned up to 1000%. This seems like a good thread to dump my thoughts in. The mural. It’s obviously referencing the Shattering, what with the sixteen pieces; I think it’s also referencing the four Dawnshards here, too. But these existed before the Shattering of Adonalsium (or else they couldn’t be used to Shatter), so I’m guessing the Commands guided the sixteen Intents, four apiece. This Command feels an awful lot like Cultivation and Endowment, making things change and make things better. (And even Ruin, to a degree.) And Adonalsium had some emotions ascribed to him, as well: “Resignation? Confidence? Understanding?” And lastly, I’m not sure that the gold color is entirely for decoration. We’re learning from fabrial science that metals interact with Investiture in quite a few ways we didn’t anticipate; I wonder if the mural wouldn’t have contained the Dawnshard if it had a different metal. (The “red foil” outlines are somewhat suspicious, as well, for the places we’ve seen red Investiture.) Exactly what Dawnshards are and how they work is a bit of a mystery. We know from Brandon’s annotation that Hoid was a Dawnshard; I assume this is in reference to the “first gem” and how it became worthless for his wearing it. His Dawnshard was contained in a topaz, and then Hoid absorbed it. There are an awful lot of similarities to Breath and Awakening. It’s called a “Command,” Rysn has improved perception of color and pitch at the end of the novella. But while she absorbs it, we see sensations of light and warmth… almost like the mystery light Dalinar has seen a few times. The pieces are there, but I'm not quite sure how to put them together. There are some outstanding mysteries about the larkin and the mandras. It’s one thing if they were leading Chiri-Chiri to start a bond… but why did they guide Cord and Rysn? And then the big old skulls that Rysn thought moved to look at her; I’m thinking that there’s something actually moving in there. Rysn thinks that the Dawnshard has no agency of its own (borne out by the heads moved after Rysn took up the Dawnshard), so it must be whatever was guiding the mandras, whatever let out the big roar right before Chiri-Chiri returned. Mama Larkin, or whoever it is. The Dawnshard refers to Chiri-Chiri as a “Guardian of Ancient Sins.” That implies, to me, that the larkin are, an intelligent race who were tasked with this mission as soon as the Dawnshards needed guarding. The Sleepless say they guard it because they have seen the “end of worlds,” (like what was mentioned in the Oathbringer interlude), so are the “Ancient Sins” the Shattering? Or perhaps the destruction of Ashyn and other planets like it (including, potentially, the Sleepless home world)? So when were the Dawnshards put under guard? After the Shattering? After the destruction of Ashyn? After some point during the Desolations? It must have been prior to the Recreance, but that's a very long amount of time. We’ve only found one Dawnshard; where are the other three? In Way of Kings, Honor references “Dawnshards,” plural, so presumably more of them were on Roshar, if not all of them. What is Honor about to suggest that can’t be done without Dawnshards? Splintering a Shard, I’d guess; he was suggesting they kill Odium. Which, in turn, makes me wonder if Odium has a Dawnshard, and has been using it to Splinter. But the Dawnshards were also used to destroy the Tranquiline Halls (by performing a great feat of magic, as suggested by the novella), so how did they get to Ashyn? Or perhaps the Dawnshards a cosmere-wide “plot point,” and Honor was suggesting that the Radiants track one down, himself oblivious to the fact that one was right under his nose on his very own planet? Who are the enemies who could make full use of a Dawnshard? Are they Shards? Are they powerful magic users? I assume you only need to be a magic user, which is why they won’t let Rysn bond a spren. That's what happened on Ashyn; somebody with a Dawnshard went too far and caused some problems. It also makes me wonder about the “one of them will destroy us” line from the Way of Kings back cover, and maybe the enemies they’re worried about are the Radiants themselves. Neither person in on the secret (Rysn, Cord) are Radiants, after all. If Dalinar looks for a Dawnshard to fight Odium, things could go wrong and destroy Roshar. Lastly, the greatest applications of Surgebinding. If Rysn’s Dawnshard is associated with growth, what we could call Cultivation’s Dawnshard, I’ll go out on a limb and suggest that Ishar used Honor’s Dawnshard to create the Radiants. An extremely powerful Surgebinding to set up the Oaths and the bonds and the Surge associations and all that. He may also have used it to bind the Oathpact. I go a little further and suggest he still has it, although now he doesn’t have Surgebinding to make use of it. Hmm, one more odd line towards the end of the book. Cord knows stories of this Dawnshard coming through the perpendicularity. That implies that the Dawnshards were being moved around separately through the Cosmere. Who brought this one to Roshar? When? And for what purpose (if there is any beyond just hiding it)? Lots to think about. A pleasant surprise, to be sure; I wasn’t expecting this much of a bomb in this story.
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  32. I love the theory in general, but I do feel like the groupings need to be more... varied. The thing that irks me about something "symmetrical" like this is that it strips Adonalsium of personality I guess? If every aspect of Adonalsium has an opposite then it seems like they would be one giant can't-do-anything Sazed. It would seem like there's no life to the being. I wish I was more versed in mythology because I feel like their connection to the creation of life is important. The question I wonder is "what would a God consider important aspects of life?" If Adonalsium is creating life, what Commands would they give to make it be the kind of life they want it to be?
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  33. I was gonna maybe keep the profile pic through november, but I just really love this one so my profile picture is back to normal!
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  34. Here’s a crackpot idea that just came to me: to heal deadeye sprens you need Sja anat. You need Dalinar to reenforce the connection and Sja anat to heal the gap in the spern psyche.
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  35. I'll try my best to make an argument. So, have you seen a brandon sanderson meme and immediately thought, I don't want to remember that, but you can't get it out of your head? F- Copper. Having trouble remembering what you needed to do? Just store it in copper so you can pull your to do list out whenever you want. Want to ace that test? Just read all the material before hand, then store it so you can pull that stuff out later. Want to be able to see something again? Just store it in F- Copper. Ever have a brandon sanderson meme that you thought of when you were away from the 17th shard and you come back and you can't remember what it was? F- Copper.
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  36. Glad to hear it. It's a lot of work! It's going to be a crazy month since it's Stormlight release time! And tons of video editing too!
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  37. I feel like it's common for people to picture a main people in a book to look like themselves.
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  38. You make a really good point here! I think that for my circuit analogy, your theory here would mean that Connection is analogous to the wires. I'm on board with that! As for stormlight being consumed or not though, I agree with you in part. I think that investure should almost always be conserved, just like mass is in our universe. However, conservation of matter is really just an illusion that results from the difficulty of converting mass into other forms of energy. While it is true for most processes, there are some few (namely nuclear reactions) which can decrease the amount of mass. The same could be true for stormlight—although normally conserved, some special processes might convert it from magical investure into more mundane energy, like that required to heal a body. Also, I just made an edit to my post! I realized that I might have overlooked a really simple explanation for why larger gemstones can withdraw stormlight from smaller ones. Tl;DR is that I treat it like gas in containers of different sizes, meaning it will diffuse along a pressure gradient.
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  39. This is a good webcomic, short read, not-interconnected queer stories, on hiatus for anyone who wants to do a quick binge. https://alphabetsoupcomic.tumblr.com/tagged/alphabetsoupcomic
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  41. Is waiting on both Dawnshard AND the U.S. Presidential election results driving anyone else absolutely bat-poop insane?! I can't focus at work and I can barely sleep. It's like Christmas eve for an 8 year-old where Christmas eve lasts somewhere between 7 and 14 days. Longest two weeks of my life...
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  42. Although I agree with the general concept. I don't necessarily agree that stopping the use of the term Voidbringers is necessarily about political correctness as much as seeking clarity. With the knowledge that humans were the original "Voidbringers" it just makes the use of the term confusing.
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  43. I personally dislike the I cannot save everyone fourth oath theory. I think evidence points to it being a wrong way of looking at the Windrunner ethos and Kaladin's growth in general. Kaladin is claustrophobic and wants to please and live wiith his parents. A balcony makes sense in this context. Also I don't know if a mass assault is a smart way to take down Urithiru unless you manage to completely compromise the fortifications first. You generally don't want to attack a fortified location directly and when you have to you need some kind of major advantage. As such the fused will require their infiltration plan to work first and the odds of that bringing them into contact with the balcony at Harthstone are slim. Also why assault a 8th floor balcony at all? Nothing of military value is there.
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