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  1. We've all taken jabs at trying to figure out what the Sibling may be about. The Community's Take General consensus is that there's three Shards on Roshar, and three Bondsmiths, so if the Stormfather, the Nightwatcher, and the Sibling are the three Bondsmith spren (which they are), then the Stormfather corresponds to Honor (which he does), the Nightwatcher to Cultivation (which "she" does), and the Sibling either corresponds to Odium, or is a mix in between Honor and Cultivation. For obvious reasons, it wouldn't make sense for the Sibling to be associated with Odium and still be a part of Surgebinding, so we tend to lean towards the "mix between Honor and Cultivation" more. Another general thing we tend to believe about the Sibling is that they are tied to Urithiru in some way, and may power even power the city. And the last well believed fact about the Sibling is that they are intricately tied to Stone. I know Calderis has a theory on why the Nightwatcher might be stone instead, but that's his to discuss. I'm gonna try and offer a different take on some of these points, and provide additional context to others. Whose magic is Surgebinding? The question asks it all. There's some fuzziness with what happened on Ashyn, but from what we know, the specific powerset of Radiant Surgebinding was first seen in the Honorblades. This implies that the exact specifics, at least, were first defined by Honor. If you look at the Heralds, we have 5 Male Heralds and 5 Female Heralds - a near perfect divide, with all the Male Heralds bunched up around what seems to be the Honor-half of the chart, whereas the Female Heralds bunched up around the Cultivation-half. Then we have spren copying Honorblades. This fact alone makes things very fuzzy. On one side, the spren are... essentially on a spectrum of Honor and Cultivation, with some spren having more Honor and others having more Cultivation. Yet others, like the Stormfather and Nightwatcher, are almost guaranteed to be nearly a 100% one or the other. But the pattern breaks a little if you try and match the spren to the Heralds. By association, a.) Windrunners, Skybreakers, Willshapers, Stonewards and Bondsmiths should be closer to Honor, whereas b.) Dustbringers, Edgedancers, Truthwatchers, Lightweavers and Elsecallers should lean towards Cultivation. And this works, until you look at the Bondsmiths. The Nightwatcher, who should practically be all Cultivation, is a Bondsmith spren, meaning that in Surgebinding, Cultivation is technically more present than Honor. This is despite Brandon telling us on atleast one occasion that the original Knights Radiants were focused more on Honor and his spren (which, depending on how you read it, could and couldn't conflict with Cultivation's presence in the magic). There's a third way of dividing the system too. You could theoretically say that Surgebinding is of both Shards because a.) All Radiants speak Oaths, which come from Honor, and b.) All Radiants have to grow over a total of five Oaths, which evokes the presence of Cultivation I'm going to put forth the idea that there is a third element here, but let's hold these two in mind, for now. When in doubt, stare at the Surgebinding Chart. When most people think of what the Surgebinding Chart tells us, they tend to think that all it tells us is that there are 10 orders, 10 Surges, and that each order gets 2 Surges, and that each Surge is shared between two orders, in a cyclic pattern. Usually, we tend to think that all the extra connections don't matter, and that they're there just for fluff. But, @Master_Moridinfound something interesting. The extra connections start making somewhat more sense once you pull in the Soulcasting Essences. Here's the full graph, and because not all of you are maniacs who have it by heart, I've gone forth and labeled it too: (it is definitely interesting that the whole thing looks like a gemstone) Smoke, for example, is connected to Fire, Wind, and Oil. Stone connects to metal, crystal (both come from the ground), water (crem), and flesh/meat/sinew (don't ask). They don't all immediately fall in place, because we think there's more weight to these connections in a metaphorical or philosophical sense, and there are also some thematic Order connections that we're wondering about. The Actual Theory However, an interesting thing happens when we zoom in on the Bondsmiths. Usually, when we think of the Bondsmiths, we think that they have two surges (Adhesion and Tension), and are adjacent to Windrunners (by Adhesion), and Stonewards (by Tension). Which is fine, except in the full chart, Bondsmiths don't have two, but three adjacent Orders: The Stormfather tells Dalinar that his is the power of Connection, so I can see why "Sinew" or "Flesh/Meat" could be associated with his order. But the interesting thing is the three (yep, three) essences they connect to - Wind, Stone, and Pulp/Wood/Plant Matter. I could sit here and establish a line of reasoning from the Essences to the three Bondsmith spren, but it's pretty simple from here on out. The Eila Stele mentions three Gods, of Wind, Spren and Stone. The Wind can pretty easily be attributed to the Stormfather, both because wind, and because his relation to Honorspren and the Windrunners. The Nightwatcher, by the virtue of color green, her home-base of the Valley and connection to Cultivation as "her heir", and indirectly through an excerpt from Rhythm of War, can associate with the Truthwatchers, the essence of Pulp/Wood/Plant Matter, and the "God of spren" from the Eila Stele. This leaves the Sibling, and Stone. So yes, I'm establishing a harder line of reasoning for why the Sibling should associate with Stone. But far more importantly, this establishes the Sibling and the Nightwatcher as being to the Stonewards and Truthwatchers what the Stormfather is to the Windrunners. And for more importantly, this can tell us a little bit more about the Sibling. Earlier, I established two components in Radiant Surgebinding: Oaths from Honor, and Growth from Cultivation. Which works, until you consider that Radiance actually has three elements - the third is that all Radiants are also completely dependent on Stormlight, which is responsible for the literal radiance in Radiance. And even before the death of Honor, the Stormfather is disproportionally more important than any other spren to Surgebinding, as he is the source of all Stormlight. So my theory: All three Bondsmith-spren are intricately tied to Radiance itself. a.) The Stormfather provides Stormlight, representing Honor's Power in Surgebinding b.) The Nightwatcher should be tied to Growth, representing Cultivation's association with Growth in Surgebinding c.) The Sibling should be the spren closely tied to Oaths themselves, representing Honor's association with Oaths in Surgebinding And this works on multiple levels. See, Stone being associated with the very concept of Oaths makes perfect sense - Stone is hard, and it weathers Storms but it doesn't break. An Oath, on a world where Honor resides, is this... abstract thing that must never be broken, and must weather all adversity. Perhaps this is also where the Oathstone of Truthless comes from culturally, and may have ties to Shin veneration of Stone. Another potential way this works is if you look at Stonewards and their attributes - Dependable and Resourceful. It also works if you look at Taln, who was the only one of the Heralds by Aharietam to have never bent his Oath and let the Singers pass. One thing that this implies is that out of the three Bondsmith, both the Stormfather and the Sibling are of Honor, and the Nightwatcher is of Cultivation. Another thing this implies is the reason why the Sibling may have gone to sleep, at least from a narrative perspective. We have two things we know about this: Oaths are about perception and belief - a Knight Radiant and their spren must believe in them and they mean what the KR and spren believe they should. From the Gem archive, we have at least one excerpt which says that the Knights Radiant may have been questioning their own worthiness (perhaps soon after Honor "raved" at them), and that this might be tied to something happening to the Sibling. The Stormfather mentions that "you" (which I read as the humans) "have hurt them enough" What I'm trying to get at, here, is that if the Sibling is... somehow intricately tied to the Oaths and the keeping of Oaths (Stone), then it makes complete sense that the mass breaking of Oaths at the Recreance was not pleasant for them. This means that as Radiants start speaking Oaths, the Sibling may start re-awakening. And if the Sibling is similarly tied to Urithiru, then the Sibling's re-awakening may be intricately tied to the re-awakening of Urithiru. This may be what the blob for RoW may be alluding to. In conclusion, here's the structure I'm implying: I want to dig into what I think this implies for the magic of Roshar in general here (including Voidbinding), but this is already too long, so for now this is it.
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  2. LG64: Aftermath - #WhiteHouseWeirdness Straw was killed! He was the Rogue Smedry! The game is over! Congratulations to the Librarians for taking back control of the White House and rooting out all the other factions. Final Player List Experience - Shard Librarian Oculator and Transporter Straw - Straw Rogue Smedry Kidpen - Arthur Smedry Librarian Criminal and Paper-Tosser A Joe in the Bush - Porona Candemic Librarian Jail-breaker Coda - ? Librarian Oculator Striker - Striker Librarian Therapist Kynedath - Bartholomew Prescot Librarian Trouble Magnet Elandera - Rainier Librarian Criminal with Madness Lenses Zillah - ? Librarian Gossiper xinoehp512 - ? Librarian Criminal and Anonymous Contact Ironfire - Liability Crystal Knight Gossiper with an Airplane Spoon Sart - ? Librarian Silimatic Engineer Elkanah - Karen Crystal Knight Silimatic Engineer Fifth Scholar - Sergey Karjakin, Russian ambassador and secret adviser to the Secretary of Defense Librarian Transporter The God King - The God King Librarian Curator Shqueeves - ? Librarian Anonymous Contact Doc Links Master Spreadsheet Spec/Dead Doc Crystal Knights Rogue Smedry
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  3. Calling this a guide to the Cosmere is more than misleading. At best it is a theory, though in reality it is just a statement of opinion.
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  4. Book Four Ending Prediction: Shallan and Stick resolve their differences and work together. Stick ends up killing Odium in this epic standoff: ”Give me your pain.” “I am a stick.” “Give me your pain!” “I am a stick.” “GIVE ME YOUR PAIN!” “I am a stick.” Then Odium implodes out of frustration. The end. But in terms of the cover, I definitely think it’s Shallan. It’s not how I imagine her, but I don’t think it suits any of the other major female characters.
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  5. @Dreamer recently posted this on an unrelated thread and it got me thinking. Why is it that any shard is considered to have "better" future sight then any other? Especially considering the different ways in which each shard's future sight seems to manifest. It is kind of like measuring intelligence via IQ. Intelligence does not manifest that simply. For example people with eidetic memories generally have a really hard time summarizing and neither skill has any bearing on social capabilities or abstract thinking. Similarly since future sight is probably accomplished differently by different shards they probably all have different strengths and weaknesses. Theorizing time. Let us start with what all shards can do. We know that simply by holding a lot of raw investiture you get massively expanded connection and processing power. As such I think that when it comes to predicting events that can be determined mathematically such as astronomical motions, weather patterns, or breeding cycles all shards are equally good. Basically in this case each shard is an almost infinite super computer with easy access to all the data needed to make a determination. However when we introduce individual humans into a model things get unpredictable pretty quickly. For this shards probably need to use the spiritual realm and when using it they probably make determinations based on their individual intents. In this each shard is different. Ambition. Ambition's intent is to work toward goals. As such she could probably see what people want and how they try and get there as well as the conditions under which her own goals could come to fruition. Problem is that most people don't make decisions based exclusively on what they want. What they fear, hate, and love are often more important factors. As such Ambition might have pretty good long term future sight with terrible mid to short range. That is she might be able to see the circumstances under which her goals are being realized but her "peripheral vision" sucks. To overcome her future sight all you really need to do is bring in some elements that make it look like she is wining and you can trap her pretty easily. Basically just play along and then slam her at the right moment(yeah she was a shard and that would be way more difficult then it sounds but if you are trying to outwit a shard then you are already taking some serious risks). As a side note I am willing to bet this is how Odium splintered her. We know that she damaged him during her fight but I think Odium let her get in a few good hits so that he could get her into position for a KO(this would be very like him). Dominion. We don't know much about him but Dominion's intent seems to have been to control things. As such he can probably see people who are controlling or easily controlled as well as the different effects that events have on each other. To him the future is probably most like the shattering window that Honor mentions which gives him decent mid range future sight. This person or change will likely cause a, b, or c eventfully after the short range randomness cancels out. A good way to outwit him might be to bring in some fairly random element(like another more emotionally inclined shard or just Hoid). Odium may have had an easier time splintering him because of the close proximity of Devotion who introduced more emotionally charged elements into their fighting. Devotion. We also don't know that much about Devotion but her intent seems to have been based on some kind of loyalty or even love. This indicates that her future sight could be much better when situations are fluid as people and events naturally move to where they feel most comfortable. To get around her you might need to introduce some kind of betrayal or treasonous behavior into the mix. Both behaviors tend to beget more of themselves because when you witness treasonous behavior you tend to get less trusting and Devotion might have a hard time anticipating this. By acting so unpredictably and aggressively Odium could have completely blindsided Devotion during his assault on Sel. The Dor. I see no reason Dor could not be used for future sight(it has been indicated that this has already been done). It seems possible that either or both shard's intents could be used. For example Wyrm probably knew about the possibility of Elantris being reestablished and tried to head them off but once events started getting more uncontrolled, emotional and random he lost any ideal of what was going on. If you use both on the other hand I don't think you get much future sight at all but rather a statement about the now kind of like how Sel is becoming sort of self aware. Endowment. Surprisingly little is known about the shard Endowment when you considering how long we have known her. From what we have learned of the vessel they seem to be a no nonsense sort but at the same time. Willingly to look at the good side of things. Her magic also increases the ability of people to see beauty. Returned also seem to return based on the optimistic hope of doing good rather then desire or strength of will. The possibility to create or see beauty now and at a latter date is quite central to her. As such I think Endowment has a good ability to see mid ranged futures. To defeat her simply motivate yourself based on the baser more destructive impulses. Thanks to her lack of opposition she probably has a very good ability to see the future and plan for more contingencies against mortals(same as any other shard). However both the manywar and her letter indicate that she underestimates how selfish and evil people can be. Ruin. Ruin has probably an unparalleled ability to predict the immediate future best scene through how atium works. Ruin's intent is basically to cause entropy in other words randomness in the immediate future. However Ruin is probably the easiest shard to blindside because as long as things are getting more random he can't actually see the overall pattern. This is how Preservation was able to put one over on him so many times. Preservation. Preservation remains the shard with one of the most interesting future sight portfolios that we have seen. He clearly has mastered the long game and deeply understands both the capabilities and limitations of his powers. However Vin was not able to anticipate actions while she held the power and Kelseir mostly used his own abilities as a former thief to predict events so the use of it to predict the immediate future appears to be limited. Blindsiding Preservation appears to be nearly impossible as the way he works his plans make it so that chance encounters or random events don't alter the outcome. For example the wars that consumed the entirety of Mistborn 3 did not matter one wit as long as the key players remained alive but how much of this was the vessel and how much was the shard seems difficult to say. To actually defeat Preservation at the future sight game I think your only option might be to just nuke the whole future. An asymmetric, random, and irrational attack on what is could probably break the stasis. Harmony. I think Harmony's future sight is actually underrated by a lot of people. Harmony's intent seems to be equilibrium. Saze wants things to be like the human body. Constantly changing on the micro scale yet contained within a structure that remains largely unchanged. Equilibrium is actually well understood by physical scientists particularly chemists and physicists. Both are introduced to the concept at the high school or undergraduate level(Simple harmonic motion and RICE tables). From his intent Harmony easily grasps both the "force" any occurrence has and the backlash against it. This means that any time a new variable is introduced Harmony can study it figure out what it will do and what the counteraction against it will be. This gives him a huge advantage on the immediate to mid range future sight predictions perhaps the best in the cosmere. To defeat him in this area you would probably have to introduce a large element he can't easily understand(I think this is what Trell is trying to do). Odium. Well known to be excellent at future sight Odium is the shard with the intent of hatred and the related emotions of fear and disgust. These emotions often do dominate a persons life although they can also fade over time. As such Odium is an impressive mid range predictor with some short range capabilities as well. Interestingly his actual relative strength at future sight might be overblown by the native Rosharans. While he clearly is a gifted strategic thinker Odium's track record has actually been rather poor of late. Collective hatred by one group for another makes them predictable even to humans. Hatred or fear from a single individual is dangerous to rely on although Odium has had more luck then might be expected with this. To defeat him "all" you have to do is find the people he is trying to corrupt and counter him with emotions that he is less experienced with (love, desire for growth, devotion to a set of ideals, loyalty to a cause or person). Cultivation. Cultivation is an interesting case. Her intent deals with how things grow and her future sight abilities seem to stem from there. This may have been how she out future sighted Odium during OB. She knew how Dalinar wanted to grow and change and what he could become if he did. Odium only really understood how Dalinar wanted to avoid the pain of the suffering he had caused. To put one past Cultivation you seem to need to not grow as a person but that makes you easily predictable for obvious reasons. This paradox might be the key to her success. You instead might have to allow some very emotional or random elements that she can't understand to dictate the planing or execution of any attempt to get around her. She also can through her intent see how one desires to grow and the steps that someone will take along that journey giving her perhaps the best all round future sight of any shard. Honor. Honor has personally claimed to be pretty bad at seeing the future. He is the shard of connection and bonds which do not immediately show any real aptitude for future sight prediction. However the visions that he shows Dalinar seem to imply some kind of conditions for victory. These may be connected to what a given individual would have to do to win(essentally he is trying to pull a Preservation). As such I think Honor actually might have some decent long distance future sight capabilities(although probably not at Preservation's level). Autonomy. Very little is known about this shard or her capabilities. She clearly has some future sight(all shards do) but we don't really know how it works. We also don't know much about her intent. I could see it manifesting as sort of the opposite of Honor IE these conditions make this situation impossible(which is why she hates outside shards so much) but we don't really know. Well that is all the shards(I hope). If anyone has any comments, disagreements or constructive criticism please post(even if it is just grammar or wording I would appreciate it as you will be making it easier for the next person who has to read the wall of text).
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  6. People tend to put way too much focus on this chart. Really, we should look at the orders themselves, instead of the chart they've been put on. "Some." For some orders, is pretty clear if their oaths are more Honor or Cultivation. Windrunners, Skybreakers, and Stonewards are very much Honor, and Edgedancers, Truthwatchers, and Lightweavers are very much Cultivation. Willshapers' focus on things like discovery makes them seem more Cultivation-like. Elsecallers' focus on logical consistency makes them seem more Honor-like. For Bondsmiths and Dustbringers, it's not really clear. Even if you don't get a clean division of the chart, that's okay, since Brandon has made it clear that it's just an in-world chart with some--but limited--relevance.
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  7. Ooh, very interesting ideas here. I really like your take on Ruin. One if the things that I'm more interested in is the orientation of the intent when it comes to self or others, and the impact of that on futuresight. So, Shards like Preservation are better at futuresight, because to best Preserve something, you need to see where and how external factors can break it. And that Preservation is long term - the whole point of keeping something as it is that you _don't_ want it to change, which gives Preservation such thorough futuresight capability. Autonomy is somewhat like Preservation - to keep something Autonomous, you need to see potential "blocking events" which constrict choice or freedom, so Autonomy, imho, should be _really_ good at Futuresight too. But then, how much is her intent also about freeing people from the oppression of others? Ruin isn't like that, to break something, you really don't need long term planning. You just need to look at what something is now, and figure out the cracks, and keep at them to break something. Dominion is in a similar boat to Ruin, for me. It is Conquest, and to defeat something and stand over it, you really just need to get through its defenses now, which is the exact same thing as Ruin, just with a different end-goal. It would be interesting to see what happens then. Establishing Dominion is one thing, but keeping something in control - I'm uncertain if that would require ling-term or short term futuresight. Endowment is a wildcard - we know so little about her. However, if you think about it, the way all the different Returned play into the narrative of Warbreaker, and are playing into the narrative of the Stormlight, points to a remarkable level of futuresight capability. Basically, how much does Endowment know, how far does Endowment see, before she chooses to Return someone? Did she Return Blushweaver having seen a future where Blushweaver would be murdered (without expending her divine breath) and that her murder would inspire _another_ of the Returned to give up their Divine Breath? Because if she did, then that's a pretty incredible domino futuresight. And this would have implications, when it comes to the The Five Scholars, who seem to have had a tremendous impact on the Cosmere. If she Returned them foreseeing their deaths, then you could argue that Shashara was Returned specifically to create Nightblood and then to die at Vasher's hands, and that the impact that had on Denth and Vasher and all the others was intentional and foreseen by Endowment. You could argue that she knew that Denth would die at Vasher's hands, and she really resurrected Denth not just because of what Denth could do himself, but because being who he was, how his life and eventual death would influence people around him was the actual purpose of his second life. If these were indeed intentional, then I would say that Endowment is so good because of her nature as this giver of potential, which naturally comes with the understanding of how this potential affects those endowed with it. So her futuresight is this intricate web of domino endowments, each event endowing others around it with a little bit of potential, and that going back and forth. That makes her scary.
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  8. Hm... last time I tried to pull this off I nearly died. What's life without a little risk?
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  9. I wanted the bonus points, so I drew Syl instead of legs.
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  10. YKYASW you copy and paste a shortish cosmere summary into a discord chat to prove that it is more complicated than Destiny.
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  11. It was mentioned on Reddit (don't remember if it was Brandon or Peter who said it) that they won't be releasing the cover super early this time around Whelan is super busy and may still be working on it.
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  12. Defy them (or order some earbuds)
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  13. I am certain it's Shallan. Too young looking to be Navani and Jasnah got the last cover.
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  14. No(te)! Do not break the trend! I lead this movement, I will set it write! Besides, all your puns are mechanical
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  15. Sure! It’s more a little rough, I had trouble dying everything how I wanted it to look Edit: Sorry they’re a bit sideways-ish
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  16. Shallan: Tell Jasnah about the Ghostbloods. Wit: He doesn't want to be trusted. He told Dalinar as much. Szeth: Obey Dalinar. People will eventually accept that even if he is really creepy, he's at least on their side. Renarin: Jasnah already trusts him, and he's got bridge 4 to intimidate anyone who disagrees.
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  17. That is the best take I've seen on the Sibling since Calderis & Blightsong's Melishi imprisoning Ba-Ado-Mishram at cost to not only the Parshendi but also his spren. I like the connections you make for the Sibling. Honorspren do make sense seen in this light, but aren't Cultivationspren closer to Cultivation than Truthwatcher spren? Then again the latter Order's symbol is green and in the shape of leaves. This is could possibly be a cultural thing among the spren like Brandon said
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  18. Nah, just call random people and say: "No mating!" Then hang up. Perfect strategy.
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  19. https://repl.it/@ChickenLiberty/KRQuiz This is just my own attempt at making a quiz like this. Since it's just a python program, I can easily edit it if new books change our understanding of the Orders. If you don't think you're result is accurate, tell me, and I'll alter the quiz if it appears certain Orders are consistently inaccurate. The "certainty" thing is somewhat arbitrary; I just fit the results to some curve that represents the other data to an extent. My descriptions of the orders aren't very good, but oh well.
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  20. Hi all, this is my first ever forum post, glad to meet you all! Intro As the title suggests I believe that Willshapers are the ones that create shardplate for the Radiants, or at least I believe my theory is pretty solid. I've been thinking alot about the Willshapers lately and Kalak and from the brief descriptions we have, they seem to appear as very finicky tinkerers. So I basically picture Kalak as the Iron Man of the Heralds who designed the shardplates(maybe some 'Honorplate'). There has also been alot of speculation that shardplate is comprised of subspren and comments from Brandon Sanderson's Q & As and subspren appearing around certain characters(Dalinar, Kaladin & Jasnah) point to this. I also believe that Bondsmiths might play a part in this process, I get more into that later on. How I think it works Since the subspren aren't able to make nahel bonds, therefore only able to manifest in the physical realm for a brief period of time. I think these spren are so drawn to the Radiants and their increasing connection to their sapient cousins, but can't bound because of the laws in place. So Kalak, being the inquisitive airhead decides that if they have shardweapons why not make shardarmor from other spren since Radiants can only have one bond per sapient spren. I imagine that in order to make this happen, the Willshaper will blend their surges together like how Dalinar blended Cohesion and Adhesion to repair the ruins in Thaylen City and somehow bring the spren from Shadesmar into the Physical Realm and use Cohesion to reshape them into shardplate(perhaps involving some sort of Godmetal, not too sure I'm not all that knowledgeable on that topic). Now where does the Bondsmith come in? Well that's simple, they use Spiritual Adhesion to identity key the Plate to the Radiant. I also think maybe another way to look at it is that perhaps a Bondmsith would open a perpendicularity that might affect the process in a way or something? Here is further evidence to back my theory(some speculation): Dalinar was capable of using 'Spiritual Adhesion' to communicate with others of different languages. It would lend credence to their Order's name, perhaps how they even got it like Windrunners and Skybreakers are best known for their flight abilities but can do so much more. The radiants takes the subspren(Will) and shape it into the best form for the knight(Shaper) There's been a convenient lack of information on the Order and their Herald and I'm sure we all know our favourite author has a penchant for leaving omitting delicious information for the sake of storytelling. We know Venli is probably on her way to become one and how she interacts with Dalinar's Radiants could be a big thing in the fourth Stormlight book. In Taln's ramblings about the latest Desolation, he talks about training and leading armies, Jezrien teaching men leadership and Kalak teaching them to smith Bronze. Kalak was probably the Herald of Craftsmanship and this translated to his Order as well. Anyways let me know what you guys think, I'm not that knowledgeable on the magic system in Stormlight, so technical and complex but I still love it. Let me know what I got wrong, or missed out. Cheers!!!
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  21. I don't know if can say with certainty that the Sibling does predate Surgebinding. Like we know that the Nightwatcher was created post-shattering, so it's not like they're fundamental beings that have always existed or anything like that. Perhaps... and I'm just spitballing here, and haven't thought this through in any level of detail- the Sibling was created when the Knights Radiant and the Oaths were established? Like they were created for the purpose of managing the Oath system? Or, wait, no, Urithiru was created before then, so that can't quite be what happened. Maybe they were created to run Urithiru, and then their power was expanded to include the Oaths once the Radiants were established?
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  22. That is the most unfathomable question I have ever heard. What is your dream car? Truth
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  23. I feel that this theory is kind of like how scientists tried to fit our solar system into a earth-centric design. It seemed to fit at first, but when they discovered more facts, they found that it didn't actually fit with them at all. The only reason they kept it for so long is that they had predispositions for earth being the center of everything.
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  24. Well, I just broke my hand, so here goes. None Probably ketchup. Board game: Imperial Assault. Video Game: probably smash Bros, brawl and ultimate. Nac I sey I little Pagar No, I go by Experience and have a name that is not 'confused' No idea. I don't really have one. Umm. Probably 0. Yes. Meh. I think you asked something about Batman before. Old. *scoffs* Nahel bond and lerasium bead. The infinity gauntlet doesn't exist. Wii. No question. No...? I think. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die in any language other then English. (no) Shining Force. It's an old Sega game. Yes.
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  25. Did that happen? Well he starts RoW in jail which doesn't say much for how much people trust him. The only thing I can think of is the Dalinar will get some detect truth and lies magic and figures out he's serious.
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  26. The wild Pokémon battle theme began to play.
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  27. Sounds like a lesser version of Lift, with her ability to climb on Wyndle. I just reread the part where Adolin uses his shardblade as a platform to jump up a cliffside, and it'd be a cool bit of foreshadowing if Maya ends up being able to partially manifest physically and she can basically give him a double jump in fights. Although I think one theory for Lift is that she partially exists in the cognitive realm, so it might be a bit redundant to have two Edgedancers who straddle the realms. Unless there's a 'theft and mischief' archetype with Lift and a martial 'crash and bash' type with Adolin.
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  28. Much improved! I love the clear direction your characters are moving now and also enjoyed the details of the city and architecture worked in at the dinner. Oddly enough, tangy lactose sauce made me think tzatziki sauce or plain yogurt in vegetable curry and I was good with it. :-) A few notes: Two places where there are doubled up words or phrases. Paragraph one has 2 'sort of' and paragraph 8 has 'ready' twice one line apart. The sentence starting "His back rubs were stronger" this sentence wanders around. Might be clearer as two or three shorter sentences. Just an asside; did you intentionally remind readers that I and E refer to each other as siblings right before they get into a hammock with S? Seems like odd timing. This was probably all worked out and discussed in previous books but to a newby it stands out. As a new reader, I'm still not 100% what I and E are to eachother. They refer to each other as both siblings and instances. It seems like instances are either parallel world versions of the same person or some sort of diad / two halves of a coin relationship. Sorry if this is obvious and I missed it. It feels like you've covered a lot more ground in this chapter than in the previous version, and the length of it flies by because it reads easily. Thanks for sharing
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  29. Comments. (page 1) - This is one of the driest and hardest to get swept up in epigraphs I can remember. It feel overlong and, it seems such an obvious explanation of what is likely to happen in the chapter, because of the title that I wonder if the information could not be quite easily conveyed within the chapter. Like an epilogue or a prologue, I think of epigraphs being there to convey information that it is not possible to do in the main narrative. This doesn't seem to be the case here. (page 2) - "a bloodbath so quick he would’ve missed it had he not been watching carefully" - contradiction here. If it's a bloodbath, by definition, there is blood everywhere, literally bathing the surroundings. So, even if it happened in an instant, the remnants of the blood would still be visible as a sign of what had happened. So, there's no way it could escape his notice, which I think is the feeling of his thoughts. - "Why had they saved him?" - This line is very important, I think, and it's not part of the thoughts in the paragraph. I think it deserves to be on its own, which also allows a smoother transition into the next paragraph. (page 3) - "columns arched" - meh, IMO columns don't arch, they go straight up. The arching bit would be an arch, not a column. - "picked up one boot to see slabs" - but he can see the slabs around his boot, surely? What has picking up his boot got to do with seeing the slabs? Confused. (page 5) - "Your mind moves between the corridors of power, as ours do" - This is a nice line, but I don't quite follow the message. Are they indeed saying the R is like the Ar, thinks like them, has their kind of attitude to the world, and to power structures? It's an interesting thought, and I'd like it expanded upon just a bit, for clarity. - "The voice caught his attention" - But no, surely he's already looking at the that conversation. What brought his attention to it was the Ar pointing at it, so his attention is already caught when he hears the voice. He's still looking right at them in that moment, surely. (page 6) - "Instead, there were five Coalition leaders, talking" - Confused. Where is this? it was described before as only N and J talking. Are there in fact five in that group? And then the last sentence in this paragraph jumps to a different thought about R being protected. That should be a new paragraph surely? It feels really jumpy around here. - "You can help us with that" - how, I still don't see it. (page 8) - So, J has been replaced by one of the Ar. I'm just trying to get the point of this argument, since both N and 'J' are on the same side? Is it just to convince everyone else around them that 'J' is the real 'J', or is it to generate dissent? I'm not clear on the purpose of this conversation, and whether it's real or not. (page 10) - Wait, N doesn't know that this is not the real 'J'? How can that be, he was right there, was he not? - "They are all physically the perfection of their kind" - I don't see how this follows. It seems to be based on the assumption that the first one is the ideal form, but they have no way of knowing that. Just because all the El look the same doesn't automatically mean that is the ideal form surely. I don't see how that logic flows. - "the other leaders clambering over each other" - None of them has said a word, have they? this seems unlikely to me. (page 11) - "favoring only those who take part in the A" - confused by this. Some Sa are maji. But also, don't they hate all the imp maj, regardless of whether they are in the assembly or not? What different does it make them being in the assembly? They're still not Sa, and therefore not the ideal form. - "The one who had knifed his E" - More confusion. Wasn't it N who stabbed the Ef on the bridge into the wall? The wording implies it wasn't N. NO WAIT, this is R thinking that he himself agrees with N. But, has it been established that this is what R wants, to overthrow the Imp, the whole structure of the assembly?!!! I know he is dissatisfied, but I never got this level of revolution from him that I can remember. He must know that the only way they will be overthrown is if they are killed en masse, surely, or at least brutally put down, jailed, whatever. R is basically an anarchist. I've never thought this of him before. It seriously affects my view of him, not in a good way. I thought we were passed this, but I guess not. (page 12) - "He’d seen poor families on his world, when the maji were given money to throw away" - Too simplistic, IMO. It sounds from this line that he's going to into a big diatribe in his mind about the injustices of the way the maj operate, but it goes nowhere, just stops. This is not enough, I think, to justify a whole radical internal philosophy that overturns everything he has been taught and worked towards for the last several years(?). (page 13) - "the one we should emulate" - Eh?!! But this surely is a nonsense statement. The cult of F is about being a physical match for the IF, is it not? No Sa can match the form of a El. This statement must either be complete lunacy or utter heresy, isn't it? - "who didn’t hold him back in time" - Hmm, not sure I believe that they can just be incompetent when it suits the plot. - "was on him in an instant, knife drawn, stalking forward" - contradiction. If he is on R, he doesn't need to stalk forwards. 'on him' implies physically on him, so there is no distance between them. (page 14) - "to find a way out of this" - No, I'm confused again. We've just heard that R agrees with N's goals. What does he need to get out of? Surely he supports N, does he not? Okay, N is threatening him, but surely he needs to convince N that he supports N's position? But now he seems to be going along with what 'J' is advocating, that the Sa should emulate the El? I'm completely lost by the logic of what is going on. (page 15) - "this is yer chance" - I just don't understand R's position at all. How can he possibly believe that the LC's intentions are noble? I thought we had been through this in the last book, and that R had had a realisation that the LC were bad. I just don't get it. How dense must he be not to see that their methods are cruel and murderous? They tried to physically destroy the assembly and everyone in it. And yet, R's thoughts sort of implied that this is what he wants too, maybe not in that way, but the end result, which he must see can only come about through violence and death. And then he thinks the Sa will just give the power to the people and/or act completely fairly? I just don't think it's plausible after what he has seen. - "You and I, we shall confront the El" - Huh?! So N just changes his mind instantly. 'Oh, you were my enemy about half-an-hour ago: let's be allies? (page 16) - "Agreed, J noted" - So now J has just rolled over to accept N's position. What about the other elders here? They have bee almost completely absent from this discussion, and yet don't they have a say, do they not make a majority? I can't clearly recall their position, and I'm just so confused. - "though whether for the N" - No. No, no, no. He doesn't get to decide he wants to tears the N apart, decide that he supports the regime that imprisoned all of his friends at one time or another, and wants the assembly destroyed, and then, right at the end of the chapter, decide nah, maybe not. I just want to go home! Overall I had massive problems with this chapter. I bounced off it really hard. R's motivation is all over the place. I've got now sense of what he wants, and he seems completely inconsistent about it. Not in a doubtful, conflicted kind of way, but in a way that involves deciding one thing, the completely undermining it. I don't understand the debate between the two factions in the Sa leaders, and then without warning they seems to reach some sort of agreement that is unclear and I don't understand what happened. I found it really, really hard to invest in anything in this chapter, and I'm still totally unclear what R believe, what his position is and how he will act going forward. This chapter seems to have torn up and lot of his character development from previous appearances although, honestly, I can't remember how it turned out before. I know he wasn't satisfied, but he seems ready just to jump into the arms of a murderous rebel who wants to destroy everything that R admits he is missing right at the end of the chapter, effectively invalidating all the soul-searching and decisions he made during the chapter. I'm kind of dreading R's next POV now, because I have no clue what is going on with him.
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  30. your welome something i wanna see is the exact relation between nightbloods smoke and the vapors released when one is killed by a shardblade my best geuss both are just forms of altered gaseous investiture Green Hoodie Mistborn Is there any relation between the smoke that is emitted when a Shardblade cuts somebody and the smoke that Nightblood emits in Warbreaker? Brandon Sanderson Yes, there is. Alloy of Law Los Angeles signing (Nov. 10, 2011)
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  31. I’m just going to erase that from my memory
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  32. Writing with a broken pencil is
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  33. I Googled "how to start a wildfire".I got 48,500 matches.
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  34. procrastinators of the world unite... Tomorrow
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  35. Here are some more: When life gives you melons, your dyslexic. It's hard to explain puns to kleptomaniacs because they always take things literaly.
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  36. I used to hate facial hair. Then it grew on me.
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  37. OK, so this has probably been pointed out before, and people are probably tired of The Girl Who Looked Up theories, but here I go. First: the hair. In Shallan's version of the story, the girl's hair changes to white mid-story. This is reminiscent of the Royal Locks on Nalthis. White hair signifies that a person is afraid, which fits in with the story - the girl had just started climbing the wall, which was a daunting and fear-inspiring task. The scarf. Shallan notes that the girl has a "vibrant red scarf." Brandon doesn't normally put in details like this unless they are important. Color is the base for the magic system on Nalthis. Note that it wasn't just a "red scarf", but a "vibrant red scarf." I find this detail to be important, as it reminds me of the way colors are described in Warbreaker. Perhaps the girl is an Awakener? No light. This is small, but in Hoid's version of the story, he emphasizes that the land had no light. Because of the darkness, the normal people couldn't see the wall. But if the girl was an Awakener of the Third Heightening, she would have been able to distinguish the slight color change of the shadows where the wall was. Anyway, that's just some things I noticed. Is the theory true? Most likely not. Did I spend way too much time thinking about this? Yes
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  38. YKYASF when you dye an Easter egg to look like Szeth.
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  39. I don't think anyone currently alive is going to actually trust Szeth. Renarin as of right now can't even trust himself. Wit is obviously not trustworthy nor does he want to be trusted but certain people(Shallan, Adolin, Kaladin, maybe Dalinar and Jasnah) probably trust him anyway. Szeth's name will never be cleared but if he behaves perfectly he might be trusted by someone 20 years from now. Until we know what is going on with Renarin no one can trust him. Wit is not interested in trust. Shallan really just needs to come clean to her family at least.
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  40. Next time you're in a meeting, any meeting, as soon as the presenter asked if there are any questions raise your hand and shout "iS ReCkOnErS CoSMeRe?"
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  41. I don't even think the Surges are fundamental forces of Roshar- the Ars Arcanum says that the surges were thought of as the powersets of the Radiants before people started thinking of them as fundamental forces, and lots of Fabrials have effects that can't be mapped onto any particular surge without a lot of handwaving. Like there's a in-world idea that they the fundamental forces, and that's the real world inspiration for them, but the in-world scholars are incorrect; the surges are no more fundamental than the Allomantic or Aonic powers are.
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  42. The link exists in the Spirit realm. Time doesn't matter their, all times are happening at once. I see no problem with the Mistborn/Allomancer being inside the speed bubble and the spren outside both experiencing different times because their souls experience the same time.
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  43. Try and awkwardly shove cosmere words into ordinary conversations to see if you get a reaction. “So I’m really invested in this book series right now.” “I’ll put this food in the fridge for its preservation.” “That fire really burns bright, doesn’t it? It must be because of all those sticks.” “I wonder when this storm will pass. We have no power so we have to use candles for light.” “It’s great to see them showing such devotion to each other.” “Colours! ...are so pretty, aren’t they?” “Oh, rust! My bike is ruined by all this rust!” “Remember to get your correct iron intake so you’re strong enough to pull stuff around.” I have no idea how you would naturally integrate some of those into a conversation, but oh well.
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  44. YKYASFW You would rather die then leave your books behind. (Not really.) (OkaymaybeifIhadaWoKleatherbound)
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  45. Wait, isn't he a Time Lord though?
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  46. I was gonna do this for my 5,000th post, but then I decided to do a poem, but I still wanted to do this. And so we have a bunch of Sanderson memes in the same format. My favorite format. Mistborn Spoilers: Stormlight Spoilers: Elantris: Edit: AGH! It posted before I could finish! Ah, well...
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  47. The religion was called Shu-Giraffeth.
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